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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:54 AM
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ACLU= its sole purpose is to defend the Bill of Rights. Why GOP hates it
because their purpose is to knock the Bill of Rights down!!!
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 10:58 AM
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1. Anything that interferes with the exercise of all-consuming power -
including the Bill of Rights and those who support it - must be stopped.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:03 AM
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2. Add "christian conservatives" to the list of those
who don't appreciate the ACLU's work. "Christians" would like to replace the constitution with the bible.

I am a retired veteran, liberal, card carrying member of the ACLU and I am looking forward to the civil war.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:06 AM
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3. That's why they have the ACLJ ...
American Center for Law and Justice, Pat Robertson's legal defense group.

http://www.aclj.org
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:10 AM
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4. "Christians"
have zero, zip, nada concept of law and justice. They are fucking domestic enemies of the constitution who don't realize how lucky they are to be citizens of this country.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:13 AM
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5. If the Bill of Rights were popular, it would not be necessary
because what it does is limit the rights of the majority to oppress the minority. People who are part of any majority that finds its freedom to push the rest of us around challenged will always decry the Bill of Rights.

In addition, it limits the right of government to oppress the citizens, something those in government have always found inconvenient, at the very least, and have tried to get around.

This bunch has simply decided to pretend the document does not exist.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 11:32 AM
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6. I guess I'm in the majority
and I have no desire to repress anyone except those who would want to do damage to something I consider extremely important; the constitution. I cannot understand the rationale of "christians." They are extremely lucky (like me) to be a citizen of this country and yet they spend so much time and effort trying to limit liberties of their fellow citizens. I know what Jesus would do.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:13 PM
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7. They want total control of the courts
Check it out and read the reviews. This is far more dangerous than Ann KKKulter:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0307339254/ref=bxgy_cc_text_a/104-4925969-9821503?ie=UTF8
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:20 PM
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8. ACLU
They do great work with the 1st and 4th amendment especially. I just wish the ACLU did more for the 2nd amendment. The GOP has some work to do though, the very first step one must take in order to destroy the BOR will be to disarm the country's entire population with the exception of the military and domestic law enforcement.

It's a shame the ACLU doesn't recognize the 2nd amendment as an individual right, they would be the complete package if that was the case. This enables the existance of the NRA as the ultimate defender of the 2nd Amendment and channels money to the Republicans by making it "their" issue. The only thing I really strongly disagree with some Democrats on is the firearms issue. A handful of vocal Democrats make most people see the Democrats as an anti-gun party and that is really a shame.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 04:03 PM
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9. They have a EDIT: stance on the issue
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 04:03 PM by madmusic
Gun Control

"Why doesn't the ACLU support an individual's
unlimited right to keep and bear arms?"

BACKGROUND
The ACLU has often been criticized for "ignoring the Second Amendment" and refusing to fight for the individual's right to own a gun or other weapons. This issue, however, has not been ignored by the ACLU. The national board has in fact debated and discussed the civil liberties aspects of the Second Amendment many times.

We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one, intended mainly to protect the right of the states to maintain militias to assure their own freedom and security against the central government. In today's world, that idea is somewhat anachronistic and in any case would require weapons much more powerful than handguns or hunting rifles. The ACLU therefore believes that the Second Amendment does not confer an unlimited right upon individuals to own guns or other weapons nor does it prohibit reasonable regulation of gun ownership, such as licensing and registration.

http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html

The keyword there is "unlimited," as they later state: "Most opponents of gun control concede that the Second Amendment certainly does not guarantee an individual's right to own bazookas, missiles or nuclear warheads. Yet these, like rifles, pistols and even submachine guns, are arms."

So they remain neutral on the issue.
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