A brief recap: He was the only U.S. senator to vote against the Patriot Act. The only one with the guts to raise the notion of impeachment. One of the very few to have a consistent record against the war in Iraq. The only senator, it seems, who has truly earned his maverick status. On a glorious May day in Washington, the 53-year-old junior senator (and Rhodes Scholar) from Wisconsin took some time to talk about Tiger Woods, the war on terror, illegal wiretapping, bachelorhood, and Hillary’s sense of humor.
You’re a big golf guy, right?
I like golf. But I don’t want anyone to be under the illusion that I’m good at it. I just really enjoy it.
Well, how good are you?
About an 18 handicap. That mean anything to you?
Nope.
It’s sort of okay. Not humiliating. It took me twenty years to get from humiliating to where other people don’t just kind of go, “Ugh.”
Do you watch golf?
Yes, I…I hate to admit.
Who’s your favorite golfer?
Tiger Woods. What an original answer. And so unlike me. I’ve always been the underdog kind of guy. But for whatever reason, I just cannot—I am so taken with his ability.
Have you ever met him?
No. I’d love to. He and Bob Dylan. Those are the two I’d love to meet.
Okay. Let’s talk about your call to censure the president.
Nice.
From Tiger Woods to censuring the president!
Are you doing it because of the wiretapping, specifically?
For the illegal wiretapping, specifically. That’s what the censure resolution is about. I would hope the president would say: “I was doing this because I was trying to protect the lives of the American people. I got a little carried away. I shouldn’t have, I’m sorry, let’s get back to work.” I would be very pleased if the president would acknowledge that; then it would be clear in the history books that this is an extreme, that it violates the Constitution, and then we can get back to work. But I’m concerned the president won’t do that, which will create a further constitutional crisis. That’s what we’re in right now—a constitutional crisis.
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