OKAY HERE'S WHERE WE SEPARATE THE GUTLESS FROM THE TRUE BLUES at DU!!!!!

[Jeffersons Ghost]

LET'S MEET AT THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL, WHILE CONGRESS IS STILL IN SESSION AND MARCH RIGHT TO WHERE THE CROOKS MEET, CARRYING OUR SIGNS PROTESTING A GUTLESS DEMOCRATIC SENATE.

THAT'S RIGHT; I SAID PROTEST MY CHERISHED DEMOCRAT LEADERS!

Even FOX will cover that protest! BTW, SIGNS SUPPORTING FEINGOLD, KERRY, BOXER AND A FEW OTHER DEMOCRATS ARE OKAY BUT WE NEED PLENTY OF GOOD MESSAGES WITH BIG CHICKENS ON THEM FOR THE REST OF OUR PARTY! SINCE THEY CAN'T UNIFY, LET'S SET A BIG, GOOD EXAMPLE FOR THEM. IF WE FIX OUR PARTY NOW, THEY'LL WIN IN NOVEMBER! WRITE, "DIEBOLD THIS I DARE YOU!" MAKE MY DAMN DEMOCRATIC DAY!" ANY OTHER MESSAGES? I THOUGHT NOT. BTW, BE SURE AND HIDE THIS OP FAST TO SHOW WHAT DU IS REALLY MADE OF, FRIENDLY LURKERS! DON'T WORRY, THEY'LL SIT QUIETLY BY AND ALLOW YOU TO TAKE IT OUT OF THEIR TENDER DELICATE FACES REAL FAST!

[ourbluenation]

1. dude - I'm in calil...send me a ticket and I'll be there.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

2. I'M IN ALABAMA AND MY CAR WON'T MAKE IT! I'M HITCH-HIKING!

I'M A DISABLED VIETNAM VET, MAYBE IF I WEAR MY OLD UNIFORM AND DRAG MY BAD LEG, THEY'LL GIVE ME SOME RIDES!

[back2basics909]

17. If only more people...

.. would get up out of their comfort zones, i think this would be a great idea.

Kos and other bloggers have all said they are out of touch. So they need to be sent a message. And that message is we want them to step up, to fight and to also clean up their act. To be a party. We need them to be. Too many people feel alienated from them.

It will get better when we have a leader, a front runner for 08. But we cannot wait for that this time. It is NOT business as usual.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

45. Now that I'm not hopping mad, I've come up with a suggestion for a NAME

Patriots Unified For Freedom - as in the magic dragon. It's a nice song for children and we're in it for future generations in America. Media would gobble it up... Instead of marching to oppose Democrats, we march to support only seven and only three can end a hunger strike, which we announce at the rally, for which we'll get proper permits. The hunger strike might last after the permits expire... Then some of us will continue it in jail, after they haul us off. I could stand to lose a few pounds and us 50ish disabled types fade fast. I think I'll buy a bunch of smokes and visit the VA Hospital tomorrow and see how many of my old 'Nam comrades want to go along on one last mission to defend freedom. I've got a big old car and I know guys in wheel-chairs with gigantic vans. We could also focus on bringing attention to net-neutrality. I bet even the trolls want the web to stay informational and affordable. Promote the effort as non-partisan at first but later we might ask Big John, Russ and a few others to unify and talk us into big lunch. Or better yet, wait until the Republicans buy us old run-down vets a lunch. Did you folks hear the swagger in the chimps voice today during the house hearing? You know right before our fine reps voted to give only the top 5,000 families in America a big loop-hole to totally dodge inheritence tax? I feel sure he's back on coke. We might also point that out... you know - just typical DU topics.

[texasleo]

3. I see what you did there

[Jeffersons Ghost]

5. WHEN? I'M NOT KIDDING ABOUT THIS! I KNOW HOW TO GET MEDIA ATTENTION!

EVEN FOR A SMALL CROWD! HOW LONG ARE THEY IN SESSION?

[arwalden]

28. So...Which Is Most Effective At Getting MediaAttention? CAPS-LOCK Or Bold?

:shrug:

[Jeffersons Ghost]

43. NEITHER.........

THIS IS STILL TOO FUCKING SMALL! GIVE ME A WHILE AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW! THANKS FOR THE KICK!

[deaniac21]

64. lol

[Just Me]

41. So, are you advocating protesting against Democrats which would be,...

,...a violation of the rules?

Why would you advocate media attention to the fallacies of Democrats rather than the corruption of the Republicans in charge?

I don't understand your undertaking, here. Please, explain, in rational terms, how this would be helpful to either ridding this country of the tyrants-in-charge or galvanizing folks towards an improved direction.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

48. I'm not advocating it now that I've cooled off. I typed this right after..

hearing the final vote on Kerry/Feingold Amend. Here's a better idea:

Patriots Unified For Freedom - as in the magic dragon. It's a nice song for children and we're in it for future generations in America. Media would gobble it up... Instead of marching to oppose Democrats, we march to support only seven and only three can end a hunger strike, which we announce at the rally, for which we'll get proper permits. The hunger strike might last after the permits expire... Then some of us will continue it in jail, after they haul us off. I could stand to lose a few pounds and us 50ish disabled types fade fast. I think I'll buy a bunch of smokes and visit the VA Hospital tomorrow and see how many of my old 'Nam comrades want to go along on one last mission to defend freedom. I've got a big old car and I know guys in wheel-chairs with gigantic vans. We could also focus on bringing attention to net-neutrality. I bet even the trolls want the web to stay informational and affordable. Promote the effort as non-partisan at first but later we might ask Big John, Russ and a few others to unify and talk us into big lunch. Or better yet, wait until the Republicans buy us old run-down vets a lunch. Did you folks hear the swagger in the chimps voice today during the house hearing? You know right before our fine reps voting to give only the top 5000 families in America a loop-hole to totally dodge inheritence tax? I feel sure he's back on coke. We might also point that out... you know - just typical DU topics.

[roguevalley]

4. I'm in Alaska with two sick parents. Its up to the East coasters and

midwesters to go. We have love for your boys and girls too but I have to fly 2-3K miles just to get on another plane and fly 3K miles again.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

8. DO YOU WANT TO SEE HOW WE GET OUT OF IRAQ? WE SHOW SOME GUTS!

GUTS LIKE RUSS SHOWED WHEN HE STOOD ALONE AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT! GUT'S LIKE BIG JOHN SHOWED WHEN HE JUMPED TO SHORE FROM HIS SWIFT-BOAT IN NAM TO SAVE HIS CREW. GUTS LIKE BARBARA HAS SHOWN EVERY MINUTE CONGRESS IS IN SESSION! IT'S ALL ABOUT GUTS DU!!! ARE WE "CUT AND RUN?"

[roguevalley]

29. line up someone to take care of my parents, send me a ticket -I'm

retired on a fixed income- and I'm there. But only to rant at the repigs.

[Avalux]

6. I must disagree with you on this.

I did not see our Democratic Leaders divided in the Senate over the past couple of days while I watched CSPAN. Yes, there were two different resolutions, but they both essentially point the same direction, and caused Republicans to cement their fate to Bush. We also had the first serious debate on Iraq in three years because of those resolutions and as far as the debate, Lieberman was the only dissenter.

The majority of the American public is in favor of a plan for withdrawal and Democrats can say they offered 2 different ones to Republican who chose to remain stagnant, supporting a failed policy. Republican actions today will hurt them in November.

I think our Dems did very well today.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

11. OH HOW NICE! FINALLY WE GET "SERIOUS DEBATE ON IRAQ" WITH ONLY 25000 DEAD!

I FEEL SO UNGRATEFUL! WHY CAN'T I LEARN TO APPRECIATE IT, WHEN THEY THROW ME A PROPAGANDA BONE? I GUESS IT WAS POOR MILITARY TRAINING. WHY DOES CHIMP NO LONGER WANT ANYONE TO "BRING IT ON?"

[tinfoil tiaras]

7. WHEN?

I gotta go. I've always wanted to go to a protest against Chimpy and his crones....

[Jeffersons Ghost]

9. HOW LONG ARE THE FOOLS IN SESSION? I WANT OUR LEADERS TO BE THERE...

WHEN WE READ THE INDICTMENT OF CHIMP AND THE PETITION TO GET OTHER SENATE DEMOCRATS BEHIND BARBARA, RUSS AND JOHN!

[Misunderestimator]

10. BIG CHICKENS?

We need messages with big chickens?

[greatauntoftriplets]

12. Like this?

[BayCityProgressive]

14. didn't this

happen at the 68 convention and fuck the party over? If this war isn't over by 08 it will happen again.

[Misunderestimator]

24. That'll sure show 'em!

:spray:

[Rose Siding]

13. So your strategy is to make sure everyone sees them as gutless...

and that will help them win?

I saw some real heroics out there today from most Democrats -and earlier in the House, too. I'd never march against that.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

16. SO EXPLAIN THE FUCKING VOTE TOTALS TO ME!!! I DIDN'T SEE IT!

did the house vote too??? I THOUGHT I CAUGHT THAT ON C-SPAN! BUT WHEN I CALLED MY DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE TODAY, THEY SAID NOTHING LIKE THAT WAS DEBATED!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. No Way In Hell.

There's a big congressional election coming up in November, haven'tcha heard? No way in hell I'm going to smear the majority of my party before all voter's eyes as we go down the stretch. A completely ridiculous and damaging idea in my opinion.

[havocmom]

21. Agree with OPERATIONMINDCRIME It's a very bad idea

VERY BAD

[Jeffersons Ghost]

74. I AGREE TODAY. IT'S ALWAYS A BAD IDEA TO POST If I'M REAL MAD! read this..

emotions do not do me OR ANY OF YOU, one bit of good when it comes to modern politics. ALL propaganda is designed to evoke emotions not reason. Read this more reasonable OP and tell why THIS STUPID OP got all the votes and comments at DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1490722

[diamondsndust]

18. I'll be happy to go with you!

I'd have to hitchhike right now too though. I'm in the settlement phase on a worker's comp suit and the insurance company has cut off my benefits until we reach settlement. Haven't seen a check since Oct. '05 and my finances are SHOT!

I wonder if we could get donations to fund a trip? I'd be more than happy to set up a page on my website to take donations and get the word out. Of course, we would also need a name for our group. I'm thinking something like United Patriots Taking On an Undermining Senate ... UP TO US!

Organization would be a key to making this more successful... what's your thoughts?

[Jeffersons Ghost]

19. WE CAN TONE DOWN ANTI-DEM RHETORIC A LITTLE...

MAYBE GET ON BOARD WITH RUSS, JOHN AND BARBARA OR GET THE HELL OUT OF OUR PARTY! OKAY, I'M OUT OF HERE FOR THE EVENING. GO AHEAD AND HIDE THE THREAD OR SET A DATE. I'M FLEXIBLE! Y'ALL COME BACK NOW, YA HEAR?

[diamondsndust]

20. Yeah, I would tone down the Anti Dem a little, but place the blame

on ALL the Senators who keep voting to extend this war indefinitely. Shame them all, not just our Dems

[grasswire]

34. could you stop yelling? (eom)

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

57. Dude, do you need a new keyboard?

We can all read. It's actually easier to read when people aren't using CAPSLOCK TO SHOW HOW SERIOUS THEY ARE ABOUT THEIR "POINT!"

BTW, your idea is a very bad idea and potentially damaging to the democratic party. I'm disappointed in you and the posters that don't realize this.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

66. I agree now that I'm not pissed as hell... read this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1490722

[IsIt1984Yet]

22. pssst. I think you need a new keyboard. You're CAPS Lock is stuck.

[babylonsister]

23. ...and my ears hurt. nt

[uppityperson]

25. I LIKE BIG FONTS TOO---HELP!!!

I can't figure out how to make them.

[immoderate]

31. You mean....

like this?

Here's the html. <font size=7>like this?</font>

Just replace the angle brackets with square brackets.

--IMM

[uppityperson]

38. I'LL TRY

DID IT WORK?
COOL! I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT BEFORE. THANK YOU!!!!1

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. I got your back

Way back.

:rofl:

[Imajika]

27. No thanks..

and please stop yelling, it's kinda irritating.

I am not going to Washington to protest Democrats. That will not hurt Bush one iota and it won't help Democrats win.

Democrats seem fairly unified that a change of course is needed. They have made that pretty clear. There is nothing to be gained by going to DC to rant and rave at Democrats.

[Doctor_J]

30. What Imajika said

the Dems will ahve to overcome lies, propaganda, slander, voter roll purges, missing voting machines, rigged voting machines, and general US ignorance to try and save the country this fal. If you want to help the GOP, why don't you do it from over at freeperville?

[Just Me]

32. Yup! Totally irrational and ineffective approach to ejecting the horror,.

,...leading this country, let alone impacting any change in direction for our country.

Good grief. Have people lost their minds? :shrug:

[dmr]

33. Karl Rove would love this ...

I do not ever publicly chastise my family or friends, or even acquaintances. Some things are best left private.

I would never, ever give ammunition to the GOP to use against any Democrat - NEVER!

Your 'Gutless from the True Blues at DU' is without merit and insulting.

Let's be constructive.

[femrap]

35. I prefer kicking pug ass over dem ass

anyday. I think the pugs looked really really bad today.

I know the 13 but haven't got the list of 39 yet. Remember there are only 44 Dems, right? And one Indy. Is that right?

[PetraPooh]

36. As annoyed as I am about some of the divisions in our party, (more)

I cannot support this idea and here's why.

BECAUSE THE MEDIA WILL COVER IT! If we are perceived as not wanting diversity within our own party, a willingness to allow for dissent and disagreement; what do we have to offer the red folk that are going to vote blue next time just to get the current, uptight, obedient, bushy reds out of office. I mean really, if the righties that have changed sides, (at least for now), get the concept that WE are causing such a ruckus against our own party, then why should they join it? The Democrats must be just as "bad" as the current Republicans, right? OR worse yet, they percieve the party as being "controlled and pushed" by extremely liberalm lefty folks who only accept ONE possible solution; rather than being willing to have open debate and minor discrepencies between the branches of government as is the case here with the opinions of the "two sides," as you say, being in relatively close agreement. So then the bush abandoners will want to re-think their choices and perhaps vote republican after all.

You might sway the polls regarding the current preferences for the parties in a really negative way. Lets get the house and senate in our control before we go protesting the decisions and opinions of our party representatives as a whole. I don't think our being annoyed at certain members selectively is a problem; but you're saying protest the whole group except a chosen few. Now's not the time for that if we want to keep the red to blue trend happening.

[SaveElmer]

37. No fuckin way in hell...

I'd rather have my eyeballs plucked out than participate in something as stupid as that!!!

[BeFree]

39. Well, seems most here are happy with the party

What pray tell, are they happy about?

The support of an Iraqi occupation?

The Diebolding of elections with hardly a mutter of objection?

The budget deficit?

No health care yet?

What is it they are so happy with that they are not willing to go to DC and get attention and air grievances? Seems everything must be just fine with them and the Dem leadership the way some have responded.

[bling bling]

46. We apparently enjoy being abused and neglected.

For 6 years we've stood idly by while the majority of Dem's have catered to the Republicans.

Examples of previous statement:

1) Dem response to Republicans questioning their patriotism: "I'm not with the terrorists, I swear, I'm patriotic!! And to prove it, I'll vote just like you want me to. See!!!!"

2) Dem response to constant Republicans attacks on individual Dems and Democrats as a whole: *crickets*

3) Dem response to any Democrat who dares to confront the neocons (Durbin on Gitmo, for example, Dean on religion, for another example): *Runs to nearest camera* "That was completely out line and we demand you apologize"

Not to mention all the times the party hasn't stuck together to vote as a block on the issues that we find most important, such as ANWR.

Yeah. We would never want to call them out on doing the worst-job-as-opposition-party-ever.
That would cost us the election. So far our method of operation has allowed Republicans to control literally everything, but maybe THIS time it will work so let's not risk trying anything different. And besides, we don't want to hurt their feelings.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

47. I WON'T STAND FOR ANYONE ATTACKING DR. DEAN EVER!

[pitohui]

40. what day and when?

i'm not sure abt the message as my senator is no position to protest anything, she has to get $$$ to rebuild our destroyed state but i'll consider prodding some of the other senators who don't have such worries

is this just a trial balloon or something that may really happen

it seems to me the concerns of others that this could be used against us have some merit

[struggle4progress]

42. Go protest Iraq War. Katrina. Government Spying. Torture. Abramoff.

Go protest corruption, high gas prices, deficit spending. Go protest every f#ck-up of the last 5 years.

But I can't see what we would get out the protest you propose.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

49. you are absolutly right! when I wrote this I'd just read about the vote

Patriots Unified For Freedom - as in the magic dragon. It's a nice song for children and we're in it for future generations in America. Media would gobble it up... Instead of marching to oppose Democrats, we march to support only seven and only the three who truely care about America can end our hunger strike, which we announce at the rally, not before. We'll get proper permits. The hunger strike might last after the permits expire... Then some of us will continue it in jail, after they haul us off. I could stand to lose a few pounds and us 50ish disabled types fade fast. I think I'll buy a bunch of smokes and visit the VA Hospital tomorrow and see how many of my old 'Nam comrades want to go along on one last mission to defend freedom. I've got a big old car and I know guys in wheel-chairs with gigantic vans. We could also focus on bringing attention to net-neutrality. I bet even the trolls want the web to stay informational and affordable. Promote the effort as non-partisan at first but later we might ask Big John, Russ and a few others to unify and talk us into big lunch. Or better yet, wait until the Republicans buy us old run-down vets a lunch. Did you folks hear the swagger in the chimps voice today during the house hearing? You know right before our fine reps voted to give only the top 5,000 families in America a big loop-hole to totally dodge inheritence tax? I feel sure he's back on coke. We might also point that out... you know - just typical DU topics.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

58. I feel like I'm stuck in a loop.

Oh wait, you've just posted that a bunch of times. Whew!

[Erika]

44. United we stand

Period.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

50. Now that I'm not mad, we march in support not protest...

Patriots Unified For Freedom - as in the magic dragon. It's a nice song for children and we're in it for future generations in America. Media would gobble it up... Instead of marching to oppose Democrats, we march to support only seven and only the three who truely care about America can end our hunger strike, which we announce at the rally, not before. We'll get proper permits. The hunger strike might last after the permits expire... Then some of us will continue it in jail, after they haul us off. I could stand to lose a few pounds and us 50ish disabled types fade fast. I think I'll buy a bunch of smokes and visit the VA Hospital tomorrow and see how many of my old 'Nam comrades want to go along on one last mission to defend freedom. I've got a big old car and I know guys in wheel-chairs with gigantic vans. We could also focus on bringing attention to net-neutrality. I bet even the trolls want the web to stay informational and affordable. Promote the effort as non-partisan at first but later we might ask Big John, Russ and a few others to unify and talk us into big lunch. Or better yet, wait until the Republicans buy us old run-down vets a lunch. Did you folks hear the swagger in the chimps voice today during the house hearing? You know right before our fine reps voted to give only the top 5,000 families in America a big loop-hole to totally dodge inheritence tax? I feel sure he's back on coke. We might also point that out... you know - just typical DU topics.

[Clarkie1]

51. So Good Democrats who disagree with the 13 senators are "chickens?"

:eyes:

And here I was thinking they honestly disagreed on the best approach given that we are not the ones setting the policy.

Wow, I even disagree with the 13 senators, does that make me a chicken, too?

[Clarkie1]

52. Oh, and one more thing...

Did it ever occur to you that, looking at it in the most logical way, it is these 13 who "failed to unify" (along with the 6 who did not vote for either amendment)? 39 senators were united, just not on your preference.

Exacerbating honest disagreements within the Democratic Party by putting a show on for FOX news and others to gawk at is the most inane idea I have ever heard.

Unless of course your goal is to make the Democratic Party look like a chicken with it's head cut off.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

53. here's a better approach I was mad when i first learned of a meager vote

Patriots Unified For Freedom - as in the magic dragon music. It's a nice song for children and we're in it for future generations in America. Media would gobble that up... Instead of marching to oppose Democrats, we march to support only those who will unify agaisnt the war. Only hose who truely care about America can end our hunger strike, which we announce at the rally, not before. We'll get proper permits. The hunger strike might last after the permits expire... Then some of us will continue it in jail, after they haul us off. I could stand to lose a few pounds and us 50ish disabled types fade fast. I think I'll buy a bunch of smokes and visit the VA Hospital tomorrow and see how many of my old 'Nam comrades want to go along on one last mission to defend freedom. I've got a big old car and I know guys in wheel-chairs with gigantic vans. We could also focus on bringing attention to net-neutrality. I bet even the trolls want the web to stay informational and affordable. Promote the effort as non-partisan at first but later we might ask Big John, Russ and a few others to unify and talk us into big lunch. Or better yet, wait until the Republicans buy us old run-down vets a lunch. Did you folks hear the swagger in the chimps voice today during the house hearing? You know right before our fine reps voted to give only the top 5,000 families in America a big loop-hole to totally dodge inheritence tax? I feel sure he's back on coke. We might also point that out... you know - just typical DU topics.

[OneBlueSky]

54. until the Democrats renounce their allegiance to corporate America . . .

and pledge themselves to be "The People's Pary" instead, no REAL progress will be made on ANY of the crucial issues facing our nation and the planet-- no matter who controls the House and the Senate . . . NONE . . .

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

55. I HAVE AN IDEA.

WHY DON'T YOU STOP SHOUTING?

[Skinner]

56. Um... What "Democratic Senate"?

:shrug:

[tigereye]

59. If we are protesting our own leaders

wouldn't you say that's a problem? Is everyone who disagrees with us worthy of protest? Aren't they allowed to support what some of their constituents are saying, even if we don't like it?

[Jeffersons Ghost]

60. here read this and comment....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1490722

[tigereye]

70. your VietNam vet status puts it in a different light

I suspect that had we not been attacked this time around, many more folks would have been on our side of the fence on the Iraq invasion - I still think that is the only reason that so many drank the koolaid ( citizens and pols alike) and refused to see what a big set-up it was. And now, as usual, they are surprised and angered, about 3 years too late. :(

[rman]

62. "some" versus "most"

Representatives are allowed to support what most constituents are saying - "some" doesn't cut it. It's called democracy.

[Hobarticus]

61. Right now you're at 11, and we need you on about 7...n/t

[Jeffersons Ghost]

63. no right after I heard the vote yesterday I was on about 20...

now I'm at about 10! read this http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1490722

[Qanisqineq]

65. Wanna fly me from South Korea?

Tickets starting around $1500+. Just curious.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

67. SURE! i'll save it up from my SSDI checks. they're gigantic! read this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1490722

[Qanisqineq]

68. cool!

Didn't know that thread was so old and you had another one. I would have asked you to buy me a ticket there ;). I'm sorry about your SSDI checks being small, you could always join the military :sarcasm: -- things are going swimmingly for the troops! :grr: Which is why we (husband is military) are 'hiding out' here. (i.e. sign up to stay here for a number of years and avoid Iraq)

Yeah, the vote pissed me off. I knew neither would pass but I could always hope some republicans pulled their heads out of their asses.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

72. I knew it would never pass too but I expected it to relect overall...

opinions of America. I expected a much closer vote. I'd like to have seen more dems rally behind the res.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

69. Bad politics, and arguably

Not entirely logical. Sure the MSM played GOP spin that the Dem party was divided on Iraq. Actually, Dick Durbin said yesterday we had about 80% agreement on a non-timetable withdrawal. That is close to consensus. If we take the timetable off the table, we will get troops withdrawn more quickly, IMO. Kerry has already conceded 6 months on his timetable. I would think he'd give it up if a deal could be struck. I believe the non-timetable route is more likely to get troops out sooner, promote party consensus (taking away one GOP/MSM spin point) and being a stronger political position.

I appreciate your passion, but I disagree. Think about it, this proposal helps Bush. You might even get uninvited freepers who show up and help you out. Just like they donated money to Nader in 2000.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

73. i think some freepers might be keeping the op alive today but...

they won't kick this one I did early this morning:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1490722

[iconoclastNYC]

71. Rid the party of Neocons in the primaries

[Moderator]

75. locking

flamebait.