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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:49 PM
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Why don't GOP moderates support Minimum Wage raise?
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 12:50 PM by Armstead
Okay, I know that the frothing, right-wing, uber-libertarian corporatist majority of the GOP are against the Minimum Wage. It's assinine, but logical, considering their agenda.

However, this shouldn't be an ideological issue for those who have even slightly open minds. Raising the Minimum Wage ought to be basic practical common sense and common decency for anyone with half a brain and even a thimbleful of compassion. There are still members of the GOP who possess at least that.

If those common-sense Republicans were to join with a unified Democratic Party to support a rise to bring the minimum wage at least to the levels it was in 1970 (in comparative terms) it could sail through in a flash......It would also give the GOP a selling point. "See? We'te not all ogres." (I'm sure they wouldn't put it that way, but you get the point.)

It just amazes me that there aren'r enough Republicans with morals and backbone to support this.

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:52 PM
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1. GOP moderates = dying breed.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:52 PM
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2. I think they are afraid of inflation
if more people make more, their saved money is worth less. Even if that's simplified and not completely true, it's what they've been told by all of the 'authorities' on TV.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:52 PM
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3. Why?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:52 PM
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4. GOP Moderates? LOL HAHAHAHAHAHA
ROFL Please stop, my sides feel like they're splitting.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:32 PM
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13. There's a lot among the rank-and file....
And a few in the Congress.

Chris Shays, for example, is fairly moderate on many domestic issues.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:47 PM
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24. Laughing with you...GOP moderates, what a joke, It's against the fucking
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 03:51 PM by LaPera
republicans ideology...they are not for the workers...Would you ever vote for a republican? If so, your voting the republican ideology...it's proven how they ALL support Bush and give him everthing he asks for!!

Republicans mean republican ideology...

Just as Democrats use to mean progressive liberal social ideology, like FDR democrats...

No longer, now we have those fucking moderate/ring-wing DLC Democrats...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:54 PM
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5. They all got rich...
by paying people less than they were worth.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:08 PM
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17. You're absolutely right. n/t
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:56 PM
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6. Simple. Theyre at war with the working class
Why else would they try to destroy unions and resist making Americans life a little easier by raising a min wage?

We need to use this point against them. All their anti workers issues are sickening and dont get near enough attention. Highlight it.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:28 PM
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10. I agree about using it against the GOP
A couple of states that voted for Bush in 04 also passed raises in their state minimum wage, which proves that some of the grass roots Bushies also support the minimum wge.

The Democrats ought to pound that relentlessly.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:59 PM
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7. If there's no penis, there's no moral issue.
Republicans are perverts.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:03 PM
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8. Because Karl Rove wouldn't like it
If they support anything that Karl Rove doesn't approve of, he threatens to run a more right-wing (and more well-funded) candidate against them in their next primary.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:29 PM
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11. In otehr wpords they're cut-and-run moderates
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:09 PM
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9. They do
It's just that there are only five or six of them left. Which was enough to pass the bill, but not enough to strip Frist's abortion amendment out of it.

I hope the Dems remember this when we take back the senate. Do exactly what Frist et al have been doing and simply refuse to cooperate at all with the GOP about ANYTHING.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:30 PM
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12. Yep -- Show them the stubborn Mule
:kick:
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:57 PM
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14. 4 GOP moderates did vote for it as expected
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 01:58 PM by melissinha
Chafee, Specter, Snow and Collins voted for it.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:52 PM
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19. It's too bad it has dwindled to that small handful
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 02:53 PM by Armstead
The party-line nature of that vote shows just how REPUGnant the Rebublican Party has become.

Hopefully this'lll come back to bite them in the butt at some point. )Hopefully in November.)
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:28 PM
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22. It looks like the more moderate Republicans did support it
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 03:30 PM by WI_DEM
but they are few and far between.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:02 PM
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15. Neocons got pictures...
and they ain't afraid to show them....
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:06 PM
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16. they have a faith-based (that is, irrational) belief
in basic tenets of RW (that is, irrational) economic dogma

the whole supply-side, anti-labor agenda was developed not to make economic sense, but to preemptively eliminate objections to the current looting of the treasury.

Yea verily, on the third day did the Lordgawdalmighty decree that any increase to the minimum wage will destroy small businesses far and wide across the land even unto the seventh generation. So it is written.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:20 PM
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18. Sheeple say baaaah...hurts the economy....baaahhh
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:27 PM
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21. Til they tloset their job and get moved down a notch in their income
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 03:27 PM by Armstead
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 02:54 PM
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20. Rich get Richer Poor get Poorer
That is their motto.. We can't give the poor an inch, they will want to take a mile, ya know :sarcasm:
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:39 PM
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23. Concern about Job Loss
There are a couple reasons why they do not support a minimum wage increase. Of these the concern that smaller buisinesses will have to cut their minimum wage workforce. Combined with a view that minimum wage is what summer jobs for high school kids pay and others who are jsut entering the labor force. But that it doesn't apply to those who have been working for some period of time, particularly if they are full time employees.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 03:52 PM
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25. Thanks for the answer.
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 03:54 PM by Armstead
But I just can't fathom why the supposed party of business is so out of touch with economic realities.

Most of those arguments have been debunked by experience.

The last raise in the minimum wage in the 1990's was followed by the perhaps the bigegest period of economic expansion in history....During the 1950's and 60's, when the minimum wage kept closer pace with the cost of living, it was also a very good period for business and the economy.

I don't think the minimum wage caused such growth -- but it sure didn't stop or slow it.

I would agree with them that tghere are jobs or employers that might have a problem with it. But if Republicns were concerned about smaller employers, they ought to be pushing for some degree of flexibility, to accomodate that.

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