Remember, Bush and Rove Both Lied

[dogday]

BUSH

Bush denied any knowledge about leaks it or his staff...

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/06/04/con06141.html

The revelation that Bush authorized the declassification of the National Intelligence Estimate information and told Cheney to disburse that information to discredit Ambassador Joseph Wilson raises many more questions than it answers.

And the current argument over whether Bush has the authority to declassify information misses the point.

If Bush declassified that information, then why did he lie to the press and the American people when the "leak" was discovered? Bush could have held a press conference and said, "I'm declassifying this information to clarify the administration's position on Saddam and Iraq." Why did he go through the extraordinary step of pretending the declassified information was a leak rather than hold a press conference and back up their yellow cake uranium claims, which would then have protected the identity of Valerie Plame and the front company, Brewster Jennings, both valuable resources in the fight against WMD proliferation?

Bush tries to cover his ass

President Bush said yesterday that he will fire anyone in the administration found to have committed a crime in the leaking of a CIA operative's name, creating a higher threshold than he did one year ago for holding aides accountable in the unmasking of Valerie Plame.

After originally saying anyone involved in leaking the name of the covert CIA operative would be fired, Bush told reporters: "If somebody committed a crime, they will no longer work in my administration."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/18/AR2005071800157.html

ROVE

Rove denied talking to any reporters

For two years, a federal prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, has been investigating the leak of Plame's identity as an undercover CIA agent. The leak was first reported by columnist Robert Novak on July 14, 2003. Novak apparently made some arrangement with the prosecutor, but Fitzgerald continued to press other reporters for their sources, possibly to show a pattern (to prove intent) or to make a perjury case. (It is illegal to knowingly identify an undercover CIA officer.) Rove's words on the Plame case have always been carefully chosen. "I didn't know her name. I didn't leak her name," Rove told CNN last year when asked if he had anything to do with the Plame leak. Rove has never publicly acknowledged talking to any reporter about former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife. But last week, his lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed to NEWSWEEK that Rove did—and that Rove was the secret source who, at the request of both Cooper's lawyer and the prosecutor, gave Cooper permission to testify.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8525978/site/newsweek


These men are LIARS, they are professional liars, that is all you need to know.....

[FSogol]

1. If you say they "lied"...

doesn't that mean they have stopped lying at some point? ;-)

[dogday]

2. Lied as in past tense

I ate yesterday, but I plan on doing it again today.. That is a good analogy...

They lied yesterday, but they plan on doing it again in the future.....

[Squeech]

3. On the one hand

While Smirky lies reflexively, I don't think he's said anything about Plamegate that he knows first hand to be false-- but only because I don't think Rove and Cheney and Scooter ever actually tell him anything important or non-obvious. (Remember how, whenever he's explaining a technical point about anything, he sounds like he's talking down to his audience? That's how they explain it to him, and in that case, they are.)

On the other hand, the last time I think Smirky said anything that was the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, as he sees it, was when he said: "This'd be a heck of a lot easier if this was a dictatorship, and I was the dictator."