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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:08 AM
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Commonly known? John F Dulles was #1 corp lawyer & as SecyState overthrew
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Guatamala for UNITED FRUIT?
Is it possible that beginning with Hawaii in 1890's, then onto Cuba, Puerto Rico, Phillipines, then over to Guatamalla, Honduras, VIETNAM, Nicaragua, Panama, Iran, Iraq, Afghanastan this glorius nation has tried to establish friendly governments with first a missionary campaign, then a business intrusion, then a military presence to protect the businesses, then problems with the local governments, then U.S. press denounciations of the local governments as brutal and threatening to the U.S. citizenry (not solely the U.S. company), then U.S. ambassador and U.S. corporate ownership complaints, then U.S. military action to democratize, then violent U.S. military overthrow, then U.S. backed puppet government, then local passivation, all for U.S. friendly business interests in a world made safe for "democracy"?
Or are these communist propagandized perversions of the benign U.S. foreign policy?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:13 AM
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1. Go futher back than that
1815 at least, and include the "Indian" leaders we used to take Indian lands.
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:59 AM
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9. When did "reservation" replace "concentration camp" in poly-sci speak?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:13 AM
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2. You got it.
"Democracy" is a sham cover for US mercantile imperialism, just like "reformation" was a sham cover for the genocidal pacification and plantation of Ireland that got under way in the late 1500s. Same playbook.

p.s. it didn't work.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:15 AM
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3. Was a partner at the same law firm that sealed the Panama Canal deal
Ayup...
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 10:08 AM
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10. C. Rice, secy state, oilagarch-in-training camp DIRECTOR for Chevron...
Andy Dick Cheney was president of Haliburton, world's largest delveloper of OIL FIELDS?
Why was Colon Powell dropped from the Regime? Not enough military chutzpah, no stomach for slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent dark skinned urban dwellers for the cause?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:21 AM
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4. How many votes do the Guatemala people have in the US Congress?
--- vs. ---

How much money can United Fruit (and now, Big Oil) contribute to Congressional campaigns?

Now you see why the colonists were so frightened of "taxation without representation".
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:22 AM
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5. If you haven't read "War is a Racket," I stongly recommend you do so.
It's a short book witten by Smedley D. Butler in the early 1930s, and is avaiable online here.



WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War I a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

And what is this bill?

This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for generations and generations.

For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see the international war clouds gathering, as they are today, I must face it and speak out.


"War is a Racket" in entirety
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:33 AM
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6. Also read Stephen Kinzer's Overthrow.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:44 AM
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7. Thanks. I'll order it from my library. n/t
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-19-06 09:57 AM
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8. OVERTHROW...sounds like a formalized business plan, in today's context.
I would expect to find the formulae in text books on the library shelves of the ivy league universities, those liberal bastions of U.S. society.
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