It's the First Amendment, stupid

[RagingInMiami]

Whether you're offended by nudity or not; whether you want your kid being taught by a teacher who allowed photos of herself being posted topless on the Internet; whether you think that children should be shielded from nudity on the internet; the bottom line is ...

It's a First Amendment issue.

It's freedom of expression.

And that should be defended to the death.

[Erika]

1. Yep

But there is W and his theocratic movement. They want the Bible to be the law, stating the founding fathers. You know, those white land owners who had slaves and impregnated slave women. Such as the Jefferson family. Good old Christian morals.

[NMMNG]

2. And Jefferson wasn't even a Christian

He was a Deist. He also wrote his own version of the Bible and had many unpleasant things to say about Christianity and religion. A good number of the other founding fathers shared his Deism and/or views on Christianity and separation of Church/State (Washington, Franklin, Lincoln, Paine, Adams, etc.). Anybody who claims the FF were rabid theocratic Christians is an ignorant fool or revisionist.

[RagingInMiami]

3. Exactly

I think the point was to separate religion from politics. How did we let it end up like this?

[NMMNG]

4. A small group of people

with very big mouths, lots of money and few scruples were able to grab lots of power by lying and manipulating the people. We let it happen because we don't fight dirty (which is not a bad thing), because we naively believe truth will triumph over lies, and that good will triumph over evil. Our eyes have been opened now, and we must fight back--albeit without stooping to the level of the other side.

[radfringe]

7. suggested reading

[adwon]

5. No

Freedom of expression means limits on government regulation of the activity. It does not mean no consequences that flow indirectly from a given choice.

[RagingInMiami]

6. So what is your point?

If the neo-nazis are allowed to march through black neighborhoods in Toledo, Ohio, then why is there such an issue with a school teacher who has some nude photos on the internet?

I looked through most of the photos and I didnt' find much nudity. In fact, I found mostly nude men. Some even kissing each other. I would have liked to have seen that teacher nude a little bit more. She is very sexy. And liberal.

My point is: If a teacher wants to show her tits online, she should have the right to do that.

But if that teacher decides to pull up her shirt and flash her boobs while teaching social studies, then that might be indecent exposure.

[adwon]

8. My point

1. Neo-nazis marching is irrelevant to the topic at hand. They are free to march. Their employers are free to fire them for being shitbags, too. Oh wait, it is relevant. Thanks.

2. Maybe she shouldn't have put it on a public site? Maybe something age-restricted or actually art-oriented?

3. She has the right to show her boobs online. Her continued employment does not logically follow.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Stupid is right.

This is a real no-brainer.