Blasted a reply to a Pro-War email forward (from a fundie brother-in-law)

[Roland99]

The one yesterday was about something like Don't Mock God and gave some quotes from John Lennon, Marilyn Monroe, Tancredo Neves, "The Man That Built Titanic", etc. and some BS things afterward that made it appear the people named were killed by a vengeful God for mocking him or Jesus. :eyes:

I replied back with some cursory stuff but nothing too bad.

But, the email today from him was:

This will make U proud

http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/THISWILLMAKEYOUPROUD.HTML


It's about a Marine, Brian Chontosh, that received a medal for his bravery on the battlefield. I'm sure he deserved it for what he did (Snopes cleared the email as true) but I blasted back with this:


Sorry, I can't help join in the "fun" of glorifying the deaths of people in a country we NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN IN THE FIRST PLACE!

These people are merely protecting their country and their positions in power from an OCCUPYING FORCE.


Never seen the movie Red Dawn? Well, Bush just created an Iraqi version of it and, in the process, has signed the death warrant for 2,500 brave American men and women in uniform and spent $300 billion with a future cost nearing $2 Trillion for future healthcare needs of the greater than 30,000 wounded American soldiers. (Remember when Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's selection for Economic Advisor, said the war would cost up to $100 billion and he was fired for saying so when this administration was claiming it wouldn't be more than $50 billion?)

And, just today, the influential journal, Foreign Affairs, declared the war on terror a failure in its first-ever Terrorism Index with 86% of leading American foreign-policy analysts stating the world has grown MORE, not less, dangerous, due to the invasion of Iraq and policies re: prisoner treatment (which, btw, the prisoner abuse and torture goes right to the top with Rumsfeld, Chertoff, Gonzales, and Miers all having been involved in crafting legal justifications to bypass the Geneva Conventions). Funny, I never figured torture was a Family Value. Who Would Jesus Waterboard? Who Would Jesus Beat The Crap Out Of?

The war on terror is a ruse which allowed the neoconservatives, mostly those in the PNAC (Perle, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Hadley, Feith, Cheney, Fukuyama, Kristol, etc.) to engage in their failed ideology. These people have been trying to use fear and boogeymen for decades to expand US power and influence across the globe (remember Negroponte and his Death Squads in Central American in the 1980s?) Trouble is, the neocons are 0-for-3 in their attempts and now they are fracturing. Fukuyama and others have written they were wrong and this administration has gone about matters in a much worse way than even they would have hoped. And we're talking about an administration that has taken cronyism and corporate welfare to all-time heights.

This same administration turned its back on Katrina and Rita victims in the Gulf states and revoked prevailing wage laws in the wake of the disaster.

This same administration has turned its back on returning veterans, forcing them to pay more out of their own pockets for their injuries incurred in battle.

This same administration has gutted environmental regulations allowing corporations to earn more and more profit at the expense of this planet. Just two days ago, Karl Rove helped loosen EPA rules re: clean groundwater around drilling sites after having received a letter from a well-connect Texas oilman and Republican activist, Ernest Angelo. Prior to that, other EPA regulations were loosened to allow oil companies to pollute more in the refining process. Yeah, like ExxonMobil needs more than it's nearly $40 billion in PROFT last year alone.

This same administration has given pharmaceutical companies a gift in the form of the Medicare Prescription Drug program that will cost over $1 trillion when they said it would be about $400 billion (and forced Richard Foster, chief actuary, to keep quiet about the real cost lest he be fired).

This same administration has repeatedly fed government-create videos as "news" to various news stations around the country touting the benefits of administration policy.


Jesus said “Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me.”

Well, apparently this administration thinks the "least" are anyone making at least $250,000/yr.


So, go ahead and celebrate that "Pro-Life" stance of killing, at least, 40,000 Iraqis, 2,500 Americans, and over 100 British so that the US can enhance its military power in the Middle East and make the military-industrial complex (which Republican President Dwight Eisenhower warned us of) more powerful and those running those companies (and the oil companies) richer and richer while real wages continue to drop (May 2006 numbers just came out, Real Wages dropped 0.7% in one month alone) and the savings rate was negative for the 4th quarter in a row. Last time we saw that happen? 1929. Remember what happened after that? Well, your grandparents surely do: The Great Depression.

So, keep on celebrating continued violence. I'm sure Jesus would be very proud.

[Darkhawk32]

1. I have a brother-in-law that's a Freeper as well. Such a waste ...

of a sperm and an egg.

Nice smackdown.

[yourout]

2. Sounds like my POS brother-in-law.

Biggoted Drunken waste of skin.

[sinkingfeeling]

3. Excellent work, Roland99!

[lapfog_1]

4. Why don't you add the following for your freeper in-laws

The same administration that is close friends with the Saudi Royal Family, and the Bin Laden family, the same Royal Family that funds the madrases around the world, creating a new generation of western hating intolerant and unprepared for the modern world young islamic men.

The same administration that really wanted to outsource control of our container ports to the UAE, another place that has close ties to the real Islamic terrorists.

The same administration that wants to allow 11 million illegal aliens to become citizens, and allow millions more to migrate to the US under a "guest worker" program, but not out of some humanitarian notion of helping the poor of central America, but only because his corporate masters WANT these workers as part of an all out war against the middle class of America (probably people just like the ones that send this "good news" story around the internet.

The same administration that only pays lip service to YOUR values issues, bringing them up only when they need your vote, and ignoring them the rest of the time... and btw, aren't you tired of being played like that?

(this will remind freepers everywhere of what they DON'T like about bushco)

[Roland99]

5. Nice additions!

:)

[gratuitous]

6. Excellent rant

But don't be surprised when you receive a non-substantive reply.

[Roland99]

7. Well, it's turned into an attempt by him to "save" me

my latest reply (admittedly a bit off-topic from the OP)


You can reply with all of that stuff as much as you like but it won't change my position which is:

Jesus was just a man. He was just like you or me (well, except he was Jewish and of Middle Eastern descent). He talked a great game and had a devout set of followers. The trouble started a couple hundred years later, though, when some men with egos and power-trips decided to deify Jesus and assign all kinds of other mumbo-jumbo to him and setup a bunch of man-made rules one must follow in order to be a Christian.

There's not really any religion around today that follows the actual teachings of Jesus. Buddhism would be the closest but it's not a religion and doesn't necessarily believe in a specific God being.

Too many people in this day and age in America are self-centered and seek convenience. They do their hour of service on Sunday morning and fell all good that they kept their promise to God (or whatever other justification they feel they must meet) and then the rest of the week they go merrily along in their apathetic, self-serving lives. The age of consumerism has created a society largely consisting of millions of microcosms (each family). They listen to sermons about treating others with love and respect and foregoing materialistic wants and then turn around and belittle anyone that doesn't believe the same way as them (and, oh, don't even think of being gay. Oh no. The world is going to come to a screeching halt if the 1-2% of Americans that are gay were allow to be married. oooof. More BS pandering from the Republican Party to the radical clerics of the pseudo-Christian sect).

I could go on and on and on but you and I both have our beliefs and that's the great thing about this nation. We are SUPPOSED to be able to live with separate beliefs and not have one person's beliefs override another's. It's what the Founding Fathers intended and it's what this nation needs to get back to.

[Roland99]

8. Holy Shit! He thinks Saddam USED bin Laden to launch the 9/11 attacks!!!

:wtf:


:banghead: