Today bush said that if the critics expect him to say he is ..

[butterfly77]

going to give a deadline and withdrawing troops they can forget it as long as he is president. So I take that to mean that since is non term is up in 2008 that means he is telling us that he will not change at all.

This arrogant ass bastard really thinks he doesn't have to listen to us he thinks that what he says and the way he thinks is the only way to go. He has been lying every since he stole the whitehouse he has been hemming and hawing as though they will withdraw the troops when they stand up he will stand down Bullshit! I have heard later this year and 2007 and they really are planning how to steal some more elections.

[wicket]

1. Has he forgotten that he said this:

http://www.thinkprogress.org/2005/06/28/in-1999-bush-demanded-a-timetable/

“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”

and

“I think it’s also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn.”

I guess the President only has to lay out a timetable as long as he is Bill Clinton :grr:

[EVDebs]

2. Plus, actions speak louder than words

He speaks of exit stategery yet is allowing 'permanent bases' to go ahead and be built.

Accountability even enforced by the press is not forthcoming. What a shame all around.

[butterfly77]

8. Exactly this is the main point ...

he knows damn well they are bidding their time because they are building those bases and they are setting something in place that will cause more problems.

[EVDebs]

13. Then the Dems would be stupid to not point out that those bases

are behind what is getting our troops killed...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2678770&mesg_id=2679517

Dems should be shouting this to high heaven. I just have a flair for the obvious I guess or else my usual $0.00 fee should be upped ! Who are these Democratic consultants and why aren't they shouting this from the Congress and tv shows ?

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. He never means what he says and he never says what he means!

Take that! You rank and file non rich repugs! You aren't his base! His base is the "Haves and Have Mores... The Elite! You have been badly duped! :rofl: Your Morans!

[butterfly77]

7. Hypocrite lying bastard...

he just keeps repeating lines and doesn't know or remember half of the things he says.

[underpants]

3. Straw man

but then W can actually lose an argument with himself

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1426529

Is the tide turning in Iraq?

THE PRESIDENT: I think -- tide turning -- see, as I remember -- I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of -- it's easy to see a tide turn -- did I say those words?


......from Wednesday's Press Conference.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. That's so he can have more "sacrifices" to chirp about.

"Our brave troops who have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend freedom..." and the usual drivel from the famous Air National Guard (part time) pilot who heroically defended Alabama from Louisiana and the Officer's Club from the enlisted peasantry.

[wicket]

5. When will he ask the rich to sacrifice their tax cuts

So we can pay for this damn mess!

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[butterfly77]

12. I believe its worser than we know or think...

and what I think I know is pretty bad.

[wicket]

14. Totally agree

And the fact that they are doing this sudden PR push definitely makes me think it's much much worse than any of us could imagine.

[butterfly77]

15. Thats why the Dems are trying to get the troops out now//

because they know it is a civil war, I just heard that there is violence in Basra so out of control that it is overtaking the hospitals

[wicket]

18. Plus, our presence in Iraq is making things much worse

And provides a great terrorist recruiting tool. The Republicans are so freakin' dumb to not realize this, or else they do but their bloodlust has taken over :grr:

[spag68]

9. Bushco

Are you sure that his term will be up in 08? It scares me to death to think what he might do to stay in power.

[butterfly77]

11. Whatever it is they are setting it in place now while some

dems are feuding over minor things, the focus should be on these sneaky bastards.

[bdamomma]

16. all the more reason to get out there and vote in November

and kick their asses out, our survival depends on it. We have to clean out the house and senate, and get some fresh ideas out there.

[butterfly77]

17. I think that dems should put flyers everywhere especially where some

usually don't vote or if they do they are not informed. I don't think that we should wait until October to start put them on buses and other place where young people congregate. The info should include facts and written plainly and how it effects the voters in their area.

[paparush]

10. He doesn't have to explain anything to anybody ... remember that quote?

I'm paraphrasing here..I'm sure somebody at DU has it in their Sig.