SEALED v. SEALED: The Trial *could* be underway, and you'd never know

[berni_mccoy]

The gov't uses Sealed v. Sealed commonly to keep sensitive cases secret. In fact, someone can go through the entire process and the public WOULD NEVER KNOW until a verdict was reached!

For more information see: http://www.rcfp.org/secretjustice/secretdockets/pg1.html

The most recent examples of secret dockets involve cases against accused terrorists. On May 1, Iyman Faris pleaded guilty to providing material support to al Qaida, including researching ultralight airplanes, procuring lightweight sleeping bags, plane tickets and cell phones, and assisting in a plan to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge for the terrorist organization. But his arrest, indictment and, ultimately, his plea bargain with the Justice Department proceeded in absolute secrecy.

I'd wager, given Leopold's original article, that Rove is likely already going to trial and we will
A: Never know the outcome if he is found innocent, or
B: Only know the outcome if he's found guilty (and only because he'd have to resign)

[Maddy McCall]

1. You know what? I bet that's it!

Damn, I've changed my mind. :bounce: Leopold MUST have been right all along.

I believe. I BELIEVE!!!11!!!1

:eyes:

[BurtWorm]

7. It makes total sense, when you think about it....

:think:

[enid602]

2. Rove

But if Rove is found inncoent, I think he would be so relieved that he would be happy to broadly broadcast this confirmation of republican victory.

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Orwell is spinning so fast that he must be pure energy by now.

[onenote]

4. sealed v. sealed is commonly (and not terribly secretly) used in DC

The use of "sealed v. sealed" by the federal court in DC was discussed in the following case, decided way back in 1998....

IN RE: MOTIONS OF DOW JONES & COMPANY, INC., ET AL. No. 98-3033, Consolidated with No. 98-3034
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA CIRCUIT
330 U.S. App. D.C. 48; 142 F.3d 496; 1998 U.S. App. LEXIS 8676; 26 Media L. Rep. 1660


Here's what the court said: "In this Circuit, proceedings concerning compliance with grand jury subpoenas and objections to subpoenas on the ground of privilege are sealed in the district court. See Sealed v. Sealed, No. 95-446 (D.D.C. filed Dec. 12, 1995), rev'd and remanded, In re Sealed Case, 326 U.S. App. D.C. 317, 124 F.3d 230 (D.C. Cir. 1997) (motion to quash on grounds of attorney-client and work-product privileges), cert. granted sub nom. Swidler & Berlin v. United States, 118 S. Ct. 1358, 140 L. Ed. 2d 509 (1998); Sealed v. Sealed, No. 95-377 (D.D.C. filed Nov. 6, 1995), rev'd and remanded, In re Sealed Case, 323 U.S. App. D.C. 233, 107 F.3d 46 (D.C. Cir. 1997) (action to compel production of subpoenaed documents which were withheld on basis of attorney-client privilege and work product immunity)."

The fact is that we don't know what sealed v. sealed is (or if it exists). If, in fact, it appears on Pacer (and I don't have a Pacer account so I haven't checked), then its not "secret." If it doesn't appear on Pacer, then I'm not sure what evidence we have that the case exists, other than Leopold's claim. And we have no evidence as to what the case involves or whether it has anything to do with Fitz and the GJ considering the Plame leak.

[patcox2]

5. With the Easter Bunny prosecuting and the honorable S. Clause presiding.

Sure, it could happen.

Hey, did you hear about what they found when they pumped Rod Stewart's stomach?

[fooj]

6. OMG...don't you people have anything better to do with your time?

Funny how it's always the same cast of characters...

[5X]

8. she says, illustrating her own point.

edit for gender, sorry.

[Jersey Devil]

9. It's before the Court of Assizes in Naples, Italy

disguised, under a pseudonym as "The Republic of Italy vs. Costanza". To beef up security even more, the Italian court is requiring all participants in the trial to speak Croation and wear theatrical masks.



If convicted, Rove will be sent into exile in Elbe under the cover name of "Napoleon".

[greatauntoftriplets]

10. I heard that Rove was convicted in a secret court....

and is now serving a lengthy sentence at Gitmo.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

11. You May Absolutely Be Right.

It would very well be a logical explanation not only for the Leopold article but especially for the strange quit surrounding the Rove case ever since.