New Abortion Law for Ohio

[ladym55]

House Bill 228 has been flying under the radar in Ohio, but comes before a hearing this Tuesday.

This bill will ban abortion under ALL conditions-- NO exceptions for rape, incest, health of the mother. According to the article in today's Akron Beacon Journal,

<<House Bill 228, as proposed by State Rep. Tom Brinkman, R-Cincinnati, would criminalize all abortion -- whether to save the life of the woman or to end pregnancies resulting from rape or incest.

Furthermore, it would make it a felony for anyone to take a woman across the state line to obtain an abortion elsewhere.>>

Here's a link to the full story: http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/14793428.htm

The plan is to have this legislation become a test case to go before the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade. Everytime I think it can't get worse in Ohio, something else happens.

This is something all DU'ers need to know about.

[Erika]

1. Theocracy in action

Let's do away with women's rights. Just like the Taliban.

Women will be forced to bare their rapist's child or bare a child even if they die. This disgusts me beyond belief.

[Rainscents]

2. These people are one sick people!

[Cleita]

3. It's time for women to take a stand by leaving those states that

pass those laws. Their families should leave with them. It's a protest that needs to be done and women don't need to be put in danger by those laws anyway. We who live in more liberal states should help those families financially who can't afford to move otherwise.

[Erika]

4. Ohio is a state where reasonable people are fleeing.

They might rename it Afghanistan with Christian mullahs.

[Brigid]

5. It's a ploy.

The RW is trying to get one or more states to pass abortion laws like this, so ridiculous and so draconian that they are sure to provoke a court case, so that there can be a showdown about Roe v. Wade. These people will stop at nothing to become the American Taliban. :grr:

[Hippo_Tron]

6. All the more reason that we need Governor Strickland

[BlooInBloo]

7. I spoke with a reporter on that story a few months ago....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=961942


For anyone interested...

[Nicole]

8. Ohio Right to Life org. doesn't oppose the bill

``Because it is prohibiting abortion we are certainly supportive of the underlying principle,'' Mackura said. But the bill as it is currently written, she said, fails to safeguard some measures that anti-abortion advocates have fought to get into law -- such as informed consent that requires a minimum 24-hour waiting period for any woman seeking an abortion and parental consent for minors.

As written, the bill would not only ban abortion, but would also require the repeal of all laws that regulate or restrict abortion. The fear among anti-abortion activists is that if the bill became law and was challenged and reversed by the courts, the statutes eliminated by the legislation would not automatically be reinstated.

I would love for the ban to back fire on their ass.

[niyad]

9. welcome to DU--and thank you for posting this--will spread the word

on the other forums I visit. people didn't believe me when I told them about this.

[Stargazer99]

10. Veternarian

Bush put an animal doctor in charge of womens' federal
health.....says it all.

[Swamp Rat]

18. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[beyurslf]

11. Bring it on. They do not have the votes on the Court to overturn

Roe. All this does is force the court to reaffirm their decision in Roe.

[Grebrook]

12. This will help Ted Strickland, Ohio is NOT South Dakota, and even there

the majority of the people, according to the polls, will overturn it on election day in November. I'm guaranteeing right here and right now that when that idiot Blackwell attempts to make an issue of Strickland's position on this, it will backfire. Ohio is a micrcosm of the United States itself, and is very purple, and this will not fly. It'll be 65% of the population opposing the ban.

Make no mistake. The Ohio GOP just fucked itself in the ass.

[Breeze54]

13. More RW crap

I read the article and that bill is fucked up!

I also was reading the comments! Wow!!
http://pod01.prospero.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=messages&tsn=1&tid=534&webtag=kr-ohiotm

One said;

"Ohio's New State motto - (you'll see it soon on license plates) -

"OHIO - a Scary Place to Live"

Sounds like a lot of people in Ohio are pretty pissed off about this. GOOD!!

The Talaban of Ohio
"Reps. Brinkman, Hood, Buehrer, Bubp, Faber, Fessler, Gilb, Hoops, Kearns, Raussen,
Reidelbach, Schaffer, Schneider, Seaver, Taylor, Uecker, Wagner, Widowfield"

"We not only have to show up at this hearing on June 13 to fight against this ban,
but Ohio's pro-choice majority must show up at the ballot box on Nov. 7th
to elect leaders who share our values."

The hearing for H.B. 228 is scheduled for 10 a.m. Tuesday in House hearing room 313.

[NMMNG]

14. A fetus is sacred

A living human being is worthless. So much for "pro-life". :eyes:

And exactly who is going to pay the expenses for the women when they are forced to bear children against their will? Medical bills, lost wages, etc. These things are not cheap....

[jmowreader]

15. I take it Brinkman's retiring

This thing is essentially a political death wish.

We're in an election year. This law bans abortion to save the mother's life AND it restricts pregnant women's freedom to travel. No legislator in his right mind would vote Yea on this.

Oh my I wish I was an Ohioan. I could win election to the Ohio Legislature with one ad: "(representative I'm running against) wants your wife dead."

[ima_sinnic]

16. how the (*&# would they enforce a ban on interstate travel for it?

this has about the same chance as a snowball in hell of becoming law.

[B Calm]

17. It's the GOP way of making sure the R-W Christians vote on election day.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

19. In some ways, the second clause scares me even more than the first.

If red-staters want to make life there intolerable, that's bad, but at least there's an obvious recourse available - there will always be some states with sane laws; if you find that you have an unwanted pregnancy or one of your children comes out or something then if necessary you can move (obviously, you shouldn't have to, but at least you can). If they establish the principle that they can stop people leaving, though, then that *really* scares me.

[cali]

20. Fortunately, it's totally unworkable.

How in hell are they going to determine that a woman who is, for example 10 weeks pregnant, is leaving the state for an abortion? This is disasterous for the GOP in Ohio.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

21. Do you think that will make a difference, though.

It would not ipse facto surprise me if the voters decide that "anything anti-abortion is a step in the right direction, workable or not" and support it as such. I hope that's not the case, and I'm not at all convinced it is - didn't the Democrats nearly win Ohio in 2004? - but I don't know enough about the specifics to be confident it isn't, either.

[Cleita]

22. Unfortunately, the poorest of women wouldn't have

that option available to them. Back before Roe vs. Wade, the poor women were the ones who in desparation had to turn to wire coat hangers and other creative ways of inducing a miscarriage. The rich could fly to Sweden or other country where abortion was legal to get one.

If a woman leaves Ohio because of this she would have to relocate as would her family. This creates a totalitarian state there much like East Germany was post WWII. Families were split up then and to leave East Germany for the West, one couldn't go back without risking being thrown in prison or even executed.

This is a place where the Supreme Court should butt into a State matter because it's in violation of the US Constitution, but not THIS Supreme Court I fear. :eyes: