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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:36 PM
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Got this from a wingnut. It is true. Help rebut with similar avtivities
from the Republicans (with links) from 2002 & 2004.

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The Law: It has honored us. We may honor it.
-- Daniel Webster

I have copied this from Newsmax.com. It is just one more reminder of what can happen when we don't conduct ourselves honorably.

Fourteen months after John Kerry narrowly carried Wisconsin in the 2004 presidential election amidst allegations of voter fraud, five campaign workers for the Kerry-Edwards campaign team are set for trial Tuesday in Milwaukee on felony charges of damage to property.

The "Milwaukee Five" is charged with slashing 40 tires on 25 separate Republican vehicles on the morning of the 2004 presidential election. The vehicles were rented by the Wisconsin Republican Party to transport less-mobile voters to the polls on Election Day. In total, the vandals disabled 25 percent of the Republican Party's "Get Out the Vote" fleet.

The defendants include Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde, the son of Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wisc.) who also goes by the name Supreme Solar Allah; Michael Pratt, the son of former Milwaukee Mayor Marvin Pratt and leader of Kerry's campaign team in Milwaukee; Lewis Caldwell; Lavelle Mohammed, and Justin Howell.

According to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, four of the defendants were paid operatives of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, including Omokunde and Pratt.

Court TV will cover the trial, which is expected to last two weeks. Potential witnesses include Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), national AFL-CIO President John Sweeney, and 77 others - including FBI agents, Milwaukee police officers, and party activists from both parties.

The five defendants, who will be tried together, are charged with criminal damage to property, a felony with maximum sentences of 3 1/2 years in prison or $10,000 in fines.

The criminal complaint states that Opel Simmons, a Democratic campaign worker from Virginia, identified the defendants as the perpetrators, and told police they had named their plan "Operation Elephant Takeover."

Simmons told Milwaukee County Assistant District Attorney David Feiss that he saw the defendants dressed in "Mission Impossible type gear" at Democratic Party headquarters sometime around 3 a.m. On the morning of the election.

When Simmons asked the five what they were planning, defendant Lavelle Mohammed allegedly responded, "You don't want to know, don't ask.?

The defendants returned to Democratic headquarters approximately 20 minutes later. Simmons told investigators they were jubilant and shared details of their vandalism spree with him. "We got 'em," said Pratt. "We hit the tires."

The tire-slashing incident is just one of a number of election-day irregularities in Wisconsin, a state where Kerry only prevailed by 11,384 votes.

Questions have been raised about the inordinately large volume of Election Day registrations in Milwaukee, where 84,000 people in a city of 600,000 registered at the polls on the day of the election. The total represented 30 percent of all voters in the city.

Milwaukee city officials admitted in January 2005 that around 10,000 same-day registrations could not be verified, leaving open the possibility of fraud.

An investigation by the Milwaukee-Journal Sentinel reported another 1,200 Milwaukeeans voted using invalid addresses. Another article revealed in late January 2005 that there were 7,000 more votes than voters in Milwaukee, suggesting ballot-stuffing in the Democrat-controlled city.

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This guy's heart is in the right place but his head is up his ass.

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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:41 PM
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1. call for a wide ranging probe into electoral fraud in 2004
shocked I tell you I was SHOCKED!
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:43 PM
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2. same article different freeper
I got that last week. I sent my freeper links to Abramoff, Cunningham, Scanlan, Delay, New Hampshire phone blocking indictments and plea agreements and demanded the freeper explain why he's so unconcerned with current events.

his brief reply, " I see your point."

ps you can find most of the above pleas and indictments at findlaw.com
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:27 PM
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8. Wasn't there also an incident with the renting of vans somewhere?
hadn't the Dem's reserved passenger vans somewhere for poll workers to transport voters, only to find that their reservation had been canceled and that the pukes had leased the vans instead?

Wish I could remember what city/cities that happened in too.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:43 PM
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3. Slime comes in all political flavors
and election crimes should be punished severely.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:47 PM
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4. If they broke the law...
...they should be prosecuted.

That goes for any elected official, including the President and his staff as well.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:49 PM
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5. I would have replied...
"I agree that these illegal activities should be punished severely. It should not matter what political affiliation you have. Therefore, I hope you will join me in my outrage about the Abramoff scandals, the Delay scandals, and the Bush/Cheney wiretapping scandals and demand that they be fully investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. NO ONE is above the rule of law - including our President!"

:evilgrin:
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:55 PM
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6. Is this article implying that Kerry won by an amount of votes equal
to the amount of repukes that can be picked up by 25 vehicles in Milwaukee?

12 hours of voting times 4 people per trip with 1 hour per trip equals 48 potential voters per vehicle times 25 vehicles equals 1200 votes. Assuming 90% vote for the boy idiot* that means a net potential gain of 960 votes and Kerry still wins.

I understand the sentiment, this type of crap should be punished severely, but for freeper's sake does anyone wanna try the math on the phone jamming GTV efforts?
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:20 PM
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7. yeah, but I need LINKS!!
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:31 PM
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9. There is also a hidden assumption
that these subjects of the GOP GOTV effort were so lazy that they just gave up on voting when they learned of the buses' slashed tires.
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hopeisaplace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:36 PM
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10. Ask him if US Elections boil down to who's better at stealing them
and send him the GAO report (sorry if I got those initials wrong)
..and send him all the information on those wonderful voting machines
Americans are force fed.
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oldlady Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:43 PM
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11. About the 1200 illegal addresses...
Milwaukee has a city ordinance that forbids more than two unrelated persons to share an apartment. Needless to say, with UW-Milwaukee, Cardinal Strich, Milwaukee Area Technical College, Milwaukee Art Institute & Marquette University all in town, there are LOTS of people whose addresses cannot be verified. My daughter, for instance, was an invisible tenant in a four bedroom flat a few blocks from one of these campuses when she voted. She gave her proper address, but if checked against the lease, she didn't live there.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:38 PM
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12. give me links!!!!!!!!
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nyb123 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 01:13 PM
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13. Here are some similar activities
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:06 AM
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15. Thank you!!!!!
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 02:22 PM
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18. Enjoy your visit . . . nt
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nyb04 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 04:02 PM
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19. Thank you, I will. -nt
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 01:22 PM
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14. I followed this story as it unfolded
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 01:36 PM by Emit
and so did the Nashua Advocate. Due to time constraints, the best I can give you is an old thread from another discussion board where I was going at it about this with a right wing nut case. It has some links to the Nashua articles/blog:

http://discussions.pbs.org/viewtopic.pbs?t=20794&highlight=election

Hope this helps. I might can find more later, as the subject came up again on that board. But this is a start.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 11:06 AM
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16. Thanks, this is great!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-16-06 01:03 PM
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17. De nada. And isn't that jim cyr guy a piece of work? n/t
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