"We're living in a post-9/11 world."

[Skidmore]

Anyone else sick of hearing that hysterically intoned saw used when justification for doubtable actions are questioned. The post-9/11 world is a lot like the pre-9/11 world. There was terrorism, national threats, war, and death then. We get swatted on our shores x2 since the Civil War era and we cave to collective insanity. Other nations have lived with these horrors for decades or even centuries and we expect them to just suck it in and take it, even in times when we are the ones to dish it out. My god, that * could totally destroy a country so we bear no threat here is obscene. That we collectively are seen as supporting this insanity is even more obscene.

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Yes and it's a post 6/9/06 world too. So what's their point?

I remember the little old lady postal clerks interrogating all the old time customers, reminding them that "after 9/11 everything changed!"

[TomClash]

4. "You don't need your civil liberties anymore"

"There are threats everywhere and to meet these threats the Constitution must be interpreted differently"

"We are in a War that will never end"

"You must love Big Brother"

[sproutster]

2. Bah, it brings to mind what happened at a highschool post shooting

I lived in a small town that had one of the first school shootings. It hit the community hard, but what really pissed me off, was what the school did after the shootings for "safety."

One enterence - no nail clippers type stuff.
Random locker searches for no other reason then fear. (this is a small town, only reachable by plane - no gangbangers, etc)
They shut down the lunchroom. They had to eat in their respective classrooms.
No roaming the hall during lunch - stay in your classroom.

It was f'ing gastapo. I went to this highschool also, I can only imagine how miserable it is now.

[Union Thug]

3. Allow me to translate -

"We justify our transition to a reactionary dictatorship by exploiting the 9/11 bugaboo every chance we get..."

[sweetheart]

5. It feels post 9/11

9/11 has become a metaphor for a transition to war, permanent war,
(class war) having what was "ours" turned against us and perverted
to remind us it was never ours, and that to be post 9/11 is
beyond postmodern and posthumanist.. it is the cynical death of
all knowledge and retrospect beneath a police jackboot thug-state.

[spanone]

6. The post 9/11 difference is that bush* has asserted himself as King.

He has violated our Constitution repeatedly, usurping our rights and civil liberties.

[deFaultLine]

7. and...

consequently, Bin Laden doesn't have to really do anything. He can just sit back and watch as our own government dismantels 200+ years of progress.

I am not one of those that think Dubya is part of some vast conspiracy, he's just a complete idiot that's in over his head and is unable to foresee the consequences of his actions.

Anyone that blindly follows him and doesn't question anything he does only contributes to the problem.

I just hope some people follow an idea someday soon an take a real good look at where we have been headed. I firmly believe that we are significantly less safe than we were 3 years ago and it's not because of Bin Laden; it's because our own government has declared war on us.

[originalpckelly]

8. President has forgotten we live in a Post July 4, 1776 world as well. nt

[Jara sang]

9. The death and destruction witnessed by Americans on 9/11

is merely a fraction of the death and destruction witnessed by the rest of the world as a result of US foreign policy pre and post 9/11.

[Mr_Spock]

10. We live in a post 1776 world

I'm sick of this stupid expression.