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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:30 PM
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Just tell me how plastering gruesome death photos of Zarq helps US?
I just tried to log onto my comcast account. I was greeted with a disgusting photo, on their news page, of Zarqawi dead.. and covered in blood. He deserved to die for all that the did... though a capture and trial would have been preferable so that he wasn't made an instant martyr giving more fuel to the insurgency.

My question is this. HOW are we any different from the insurgents and terrorists when we publicize photos of people we've killed? We did it to shame Saddam and his people, by showing photos of his dead sons. We're doing it now with this guy. Does anyone else feel that it's hurting us, not helping us, in the wider scope of fighting terrorism? We're hated now.. and now we're doing things that we condemn the terrorists for.. parading dead bodies around for the media. I guess I mean, how do we expect to gain the respect and trust of the Middle East when we behave in a way that is contrary to the Geneva Convention? Do we create future terrorists by these methods?

I'd like some thoughts on this...
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:35 PM
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1. keeps you from talking
about Haditha?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:38 PM
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2. It reminds me of the gruesome photos posted by Zarq of his victims
Bush and the other terrorists, like peas in the pod.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:39 PM
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3. It shows the world what fucking ghouls we are nt
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:40 PM
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4. I agree. They are "trophy" shots.
Any yet -- the caskets of returning soldiers and the little bodies of children killed in this US elective war are rarely seen. Sends the wrong message.

US media only wants to show the triumph of war, not the tragedy.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:05 PM
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21. Remember Uday and Qusay, Saddam's sons?
They displayed those bodies after they cleaned them up with a crude mortician's job.

There was absolutuely no need to do it. They did eveything but put their heads up on spikes outside the White House.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:41 PM
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5. It's certainly not winning the hearts and minds...
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 05:41 PM by ShortnFiery
As I understand it, with regard to Islam ... it's disrespectful to show pictures of PEOPLE ... it can't be any less abhorrent when that person is DEAD! :puke:

Yep, Chimpy and his posse have no respect for any culture. They just swagger around and expect every nation to kiss their a**es. :grr:
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:42 PM
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6. Nay, a public hanging always drew in a crowd
The people loved to be present and watch the guillotine go down.
The bloody circus of the Romans often had over 100,000 attendees who loved the spectacle of Christian getting eaten alive.

And we even have a left behind game nowadays for the Fundies.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:42 PM
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7. I think they had him
and beat him to death sometime prior....then staged the bombing. And as for parading around certain pictures they want us to see, then saying that showing other photos are a privacy violation, depends on what the current PR and propaganda campaign are. I see little moral or ethical high ground here.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:44 PM
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9. I hold NOTHING, absolutely nothing BELOW these evil ghouls. eom
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blatherman Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:43 PM
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8. Proof
In a conflict rife with consiracy theory and disinformation, it's the best way to show people he was killed. Gruesome...yes. Necessary...probably. He photo they showed was after he was cleaned up. The initial photos I saw on Yahoo were a bit more bloody. How else do you propose that the .mil give proof that he was dead?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:45 PM
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11. This is bull shit! He never was the "dark angel" the BushBotBorg
portrayed him to be. This is really sick stuff. :puke:
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:57 PM
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20. Welcome to DU, blatherman!!
:hi:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:45 PM
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10. Well, you see...

This is all part of the psy-ops... we dishearten the enemy by showing them the photos of their dead leaders.

The only problem is that Zarqawi was a "leader" (and now NUMBER TWO!!! in Al Quida) only in the minds of OUR propagandists... Osama never liked this guy, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to find out that Osama ordered that his location be "leaked" to US forces, thereby ridding Al Quida of a true sociopath that didn't have any problems with killing fellow Muslims. In addition, this large reward that is going to be paid, I won't be surprised at all if the bulk of that money doesn't end up in the coffers of the true terrorist organization.

Our propagandists started believing their own lies about how important this guy was and so now they hope to slow the insurgency by showing pictures (just like with Uday and Qusay dead and Saddam in the spidey hole). But it won't work... the insurgents are not "Zarqawi's people" and most didn't know him or follow him. I'm guessing that there are a lot of insurgents right now that are happier than we are that we removed this particular target.

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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:52 PM
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14. That's already the headline on CNN
Zarqawi, "betrayed"

http://www.cnn.com/

He was sold out because he was never one of them anyway, yeah us, we killed a nobody!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:02 PM
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17. I thought of it FIRST!!!! Wah wah wah...

I was thinking this when they set up the road block trap for him...

I said to myself... Osama has ordered that Zarqawi be given up (killed or arrested).

Now, will they follow the money? I bet that Al Qiada ends up with the payoff.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:07 PM
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19. "now, will they follow the money?"
Probably not, cause that might lead us to Osama, and we wouldn't want that to happen because then who will we fight in "the long war"?
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:46 PM
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12. It lets the world know we are brutal and amoral
and have no respect for the dead.

Nobody will stand in our way now.

I mean, if you were walking down the street and a psychotic killer was walking towards you, you'd get out of the way, maybe even cross the street?
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:51 PM
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13. It gives freepers
fresh material they can wank to
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:56 PM
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15. It's just barbaric
Being a big fan of life in prison, I don't even like questions about whether or not we should be "glad" about it. I'm a patriotic American and I hope no one else dies period.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:00 PM
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16. It's this wild west bullshit carnival sideshow world these nuts live in


Take a tour of Northfield, where you can see the death photos of the James Gang.


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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:04 PM
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18. I thought it was against the Geneva Convention to publish photos of
war dead.

Isn't that the excuse chimpy et al has used to avoid showing photos of soldier's coffins returning from Iraq and Afghanistan?
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