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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:29 AM
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Al Gore to Give Major Speech
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=49140

It sounds as if Al Gore is about to deliver what could be not just one of the more significant speeches of his political career but an essential challenge to the embattled presidency of George W. Bush.

In a major address slated for delivery Monday in Washington, the former Vice President is expected to argue that the Bush administration has created a "Constitutional crisis" by acting without the authorization of the Congress and the courts to spy on Americans and otherwise abuse basic liberties.

Aides who are familiar with the preparations for the address say that Gore will frame his remarks in Constitutional language. The Democrat who beat Bush by more than 500,000 votes in the 2000 presidential election has agreed to deliver his remarks in a symbolically powerful location: the historic Constitution Hall of the Daughters of the American Revolution. But this will not be the sort of cautious, bureacratic speech for which Gore was frequently criticized during his years in the Senate and the White House.

Indeed, his aides and allies are framing it as a "call to arms" in defense of the Bill of Rights and the rule of law in a time of executive excess.

The vice president will, according to the groups that have arranged for his appearance -- the bipartisan Liberty Coalition and the American Constitution Society for Law and Policy -- address "the threat posed by policies of the Bush Administration to the Constitution and the checks and balances it created. The speech will specifically point to domestic wiretapping and torture as examples of the administration's efforts to extend executive power beyond Congressional direction and judicial review."

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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:48 AM
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1. K & R
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:53 AM
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2. Will be covered live on C-SPAN at 12:00 Noon Monday
Don't miss it! :kick:

Steven P.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 05:38 AM
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5. It should be covered by every network......
cable, the majors, PBS, everyone. Fat chance of that happening though, huh? The other networks have too much to lose if bush goes down, all of those fat, dripping tax-cuts would go with him.

I can't wait for President Gore's speech, perhaps it will serve to energize the complacent Americans into action, demanding accountability from the bush administration. I'm not counting on it but sometimes all you have left is hope.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:57 AM
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3. NAFTA
Thanks Al, I recall your "debate" with Perot on CNN.
The one guy that they would air on TV who opposed NAFTA and Al Gore punked the old guy.
Thanks Al, how's that fucking NAFTA working out Al?
Why not get out of the way and let a real Democrat have the opportunity you are negating.

No to DINO's all the time, and in every way.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 07:45 AM
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8. ok so there are a few issues to be discussed with "the president"
Hopefully he was just ill informed about NAFTA (as some say Clinton was).
I think Gore should be offered a chance to come clean on this issue.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:41 AM
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9. upi402, I think it's possible that Al Gore regrets NAFTA. His speeches
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 08:47 AM by Peace Patriot
over the last year are such amazing and passionate statements of principle on constitutional government, and on common sense and common decency, that it just seems he is a changed man and has done a rigorous re-thinking of policy from outside of government and outside the circles of power. NAFTA is a difficult thing to forgive. But if there is anyone who supported it who is capable of a radically changed position on it, it is Gore. I would be open to hearing what he had to say about it now.

I am coming from a position of having protested Clinton/Gore trade policies in Seattle. So I am not naive about this matter. NAFTA, GATT and the other trade agreements, among other things, undermined our sovereignty as a people, putting trade policy into the hands of global corporate predators. If we have problems today of being just as badly exploited as any third world country or "banana republic" has ever been, it's because of these trade agreements approved of by Clinton/Gore. The outsourcing of jobs is largely their fault, not the Bush junta's (--although I think that Gore, as Prez, would have reacted quite differently, would have tried to mitigate the impacts, and, not having invaded Iraq, would have had the resources to do so).

Given Gore's speeches over the last year, I'm open to the possibility that he made a mistake based on a miscalculation of how vulnerable the country was to a fascist junta, and not based on corruption--which I think may be a critical difference between Gore and the Clintons. I think the Clintons are, and ever have been, after the main chance. I think they are the willing tools of our corporate rulers. They're playing the game. Maybe they think that's the only way anyone can gain power in this country, and they may be right about that. But still, they are sullied, in my view. How to describe them? Temperate fascists. I do think they are temperate, but are nevertheless fascists, or would-be fascists. I'll never forget standing on a street corner in Seattle near a group of several hundred people who were sitting down peacefully in the intersection, blocking an avenue to the WTO meeting, with Darth Vader cops all lined up to attack them, and asking one of the Darth Vader cops what they were going to do to us, and he said, "We're not going to kill you." That's the Clinton's. 'We may hose you with pepper spray, and bomb you with tear gas, and beat you with nightsticks, and deny you any say in global trade policy, but we're not going to kill you." The Bush junta, of course, would shoot to kill. I read a thing by one of their rabid dog columnists who said just that, at the time. (--that the Seattle cops should have used live bullets.) So there you are. The junta would kill us without a thought. We all know that. And the Clintons would not. But Gore?

If Seattle happened today, I think Gore might just join us on the street, and lead that march of 50,000 labor unionists, environmental and human rights groups, teachers, preachers, small business people and other citizens, who never got the credit we deserved for our utter peacefulness and patience in Seattle, and our faith and hope that American policy could be changed. (The war profiteering corporate news monopolies completely slandered those protests. I was there. I know what they did with their "news" reports.)

Anyway, I'd be willing to listen to what Gore had to say about it today. He hasn't said anything about it, so far as I know. But based on the content and conviction of his other speeches, I hold out the hope that he has changed his views. Keep in mind that he was V-P, not Prez. Keep in mind also that no one could have predicted the Bushites' utter obliviousness to the financial ruin of our country. I mean, who could have guessed that so-called "conservatives" would do what they have done--just plain looted us blind? A trillion dollar deficit. It may be that Gore thought that, with careful economic policy and budgeting, Clinton-Gore could MITIGATE the suffering at least to Americans of the impact on jobs and so forth. That's what I suspect. As I said, a miscalculation (possibly)--based on a mis-reading of the intentions of the Bushite Republicans and those behind them.

Everything has changed now--with this junta--and anyone with sensibility and intelligence, who is not just purely a political animal (Bill and Hillary)--has to look back over the Clinton economic boom and the bust that followed it, in light of the thieves and war criminals who have taken us over. Should we have signed those trade agreements? Absolutely not. They undermined the country's economy in ways that we will never recover from, given what the Bush junta has done (bankrupted the country, and completely deregulated the corporate powers, which are now utterly out of control--they can't export jobs and destroy workers' rights fast enough). And we've got the whole of South America rebelling against the trade agreements today. They are seeing to their own sovereignty, as well they should.

Also, I think that the issues of unjust, illegal, unconstitutional war, torturing prisoners, and other assertions of dictatorial powers by the Bush junta are of equal importance with economic and trade policy. I mean, who would have thought that we--the great progressive American majority--would have had to deal with issues like these? They don't trump economic and trade policy (which kill people slowly, instead of with bullets), but they pose an immediate crisis that has to be dealt with. We MUST restore some kind of "balance of powers" in the government. If I myself were in a position to give speeches about the current situation, I, too, would start with that. Actually, I'd start with election reform (Bushite corporations now controlling the tabulation of our votes with "trade secret," proprietary programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls--the ultimate in corporate rule). But right up with that would be the "balance of powers," in my speech. Constitutional government. Rejection of rule by presidential fiat. I don't fault Gore at all, for concentrating on the "balance of powers" and on the fundamentals of decent behavior (i.e., torture). Things have gone so awry, he has to start somewhere. Let's hope that he is also thinking some fundamental thoughts about fair and just trade policy.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:12 AM
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4. It will be a brilliant, insightful, and fiery speech, and the media will
pretend it never happened, as usual. Hopefully it will get enough attention through other channels to make a difference.

Our enemy is as much the MSM as it is the Republicans. They have a lot more to do with who runs the country than the voters or either party.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:04 AM
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10. These meme that I see repeated over and over and over and over here
at DU, that something good is going to happen, but that this entity called "the MSM" is going to spoil it all by not giving it any news coverage in the war profiteering corporate news monopoly broadcasts and newspapers, needs to be thoroughly examined and the impact that it has, of depressing and disempowering everyone who reads it, made conscious.

It's not your fault that the war profiteering corporate news monopolies have such a stranglehold on your unconscious. It is definitely their intention to brainwash you with the notion that "if it's not in their 'news,' it's not real." Their victory over our unconscious minds is renewed every time we use the phrase "mainstream media" (MSM). That's what they would like you to believe--that THEY are "the mainstream" and you are not. They also want you to believe that, unless they put their spotlight on something (say, Al Gore's speech), it is not important, and never will be important. This depresses and disempowers you, so that you may not act on what YOU think is important, or may not act to MAKE something important that they are trying to blackhole.

I would just say: Think about it. Make it conscious. Fight it. Black civil rights was at one time "non-MSM." Then it exploded into the national consciousness, seemingly all at once, but not really. It was the result of relentless struggle against being marginalized. Have faith in yourself--in YOUR judgement of what is important. Have faith in the struggle. Have faith in the people. We shall overcome!
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DaveT Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:13 AM
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12. Nothing is more important, not even a fair vote count.
The vote count is a close second, but we must realize that the power of television is purely a function of individuals surrendering their own autonomy.

Don't give up your own power of judgment. Then use the tools at hand to link up with other individuals who also refuse to buy what they are selling. Organizing always moves forward one person at a time. The "mass" media phenomenon makes people forget this old truth -- but all we have to do is remember it.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 05:40 AM
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6. this has been posted several times (and Al Gore is fabulous)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 05:40 AM
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7. delete
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 05:44 AM by AtomicKitten
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 10:19 AM
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11. Gore's speeches in the last few years have been dynamite -

Can't wait.
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