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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 03:58 PM
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Pentagon set to drop Geneva convention
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/pentagon-set-to-drop-geneva-convention/2006/06/05/1149359675116.html

THE Pentagon is pushing for its new policy on prisoner detention to omit a key tenet of the Geneva convention that bans "humiliating and degrading treatment", marking a potentially permanent move away from international human rights standards.

Military officials say the decision follows a lengthy debate within the US Department of Defence, but will not become final until the Pentagon makes the new guidelines public, a step that has been delayed.

The Pentagon has been redrawing policies on prisoners and interrogation for more than a year, and intends to issue a new Army Field Manual, which, with accompanying directives, represents core instructions to US soldiers worldwide.

The process has been beset by controversy and coincides with growing criticism of US detention practices and the conduct of US forces in Iraq.

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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:02 PM
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1. The Bushes are Nazis. Anybody who argues otherwise is as
dumb as a board.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:06 PM
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2. The Geneva Conventions are not optional.
Whether the pentagon puts them in the manual or not, we are subject to the Geneva Conventions. What the hell is wrong with these people in the pentagon?
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:04 PM
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9. The Constitution says
that when we sign on to a treaty, it becomes the law
of the land. Yet another law broken by the criminal
cabal.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:10 PM
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10. That is it exactly.
But since when does the US care about our treaties. Ask any Native American how well our own government obeys the law of the land.
:grr:
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 05:13 PM
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11. Absolutely
Those administrations were creepy too. However,
they don't hold a candle to this bunch. The previous
criminals didn't use "signing statements" exempting
them from bills passed by Congress.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:06 PM
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3. If any troops get captured
I'm sure that this "lttle detail" will not escape the notice of their captors.

Sure looks like the "moral high ground" has now become a sizable depression in the ground.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:29 PM
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8. Troops have guns and body armor
Edited on Tue Jun-06-06 04:30 PM by NNN0LHI
I am more concerned with some pissed off family members of some "suspected" terrorist who our government tortures to death will want to come here and kill my family in retribution. My family doesn't have any guns and body armor.

Don
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:11 PM
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4. Rewriting the rules!
The USA is not a pro torture nation. We should get behind whomever the Pentagon is pushing it's new policy to and help them push back. No, no, never to torture. :mad: :nuke:
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:11 PM
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5. Might as well make it official, huh
They're already shitting on it. It's so pre-9/11, ya know.
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Totallybushed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 06:27 PM
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12. My sentiments, exactly.
If they're going to do it anyway, why bother with hypocrisy?

Now you know what to fight.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:18 PM
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6. how quaint
:mad:
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 04:23 PM
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7. Isn't the GC essentially a treaty agreed to by congress? How is
the Pentagon allowed to alter or ignore it?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-06-06 06:30 PM
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13. funny the physics of that
As they "drop" the GC, they are the ones falling.
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