If "Marriage" Is About Raising Children & GLBT are Not Allowed Then...

[WePurrsevere]

Warning.. :rant: I'm still steaming so I figured I'd get my rant out here. :grr:

Last night I heard a bit of Gov. Romney (From "Liberal" MA? What on earth were they thinking?!?) talking on a PBS show about marriage being about child raising and all I could think was... OH REALLY? What a load of BS. According to that "logic" :sarcasm: ... if that were true then anyone too old or unable to have (or "properly" raise children should not be allowed to marry. :grr: He said it was because children need two parents... well then what's next on the 'CON agenda making DIVORCE or SINGLE parenthood illegal, perhaps make Widow/widowers marry within a few months or forfeit their children? What about were one parent is or becomes physically or emotionally disabled and TWO parents can't take care of the children? What about WIDOWS and WIDOWERS? They all raise children, often with only one active parent, and ALL of them do just as well as many married couples I've known. Heck with an increasing amount of married parents having to both work or work two jobs how much attention to the children are they paying? Some of the most WILD kids I've ever known are those of MARRIED couples (including "fundie" ministers kids).

Kids need... LOVE... ATTENTION... UNDERSTANDING... STRUCTURE and DISCIPLINE... How on earth does someone's affection leanings/marital status negate their ability to provide these IMPORTANT things to children? The answer is IT DOESN'T and my husband and I (both parents and previously divorced until we found each other 13 yrs ago) will continue to fight for the RIGHT of ALL to LOVE, Be LOVED and express that LOVE in the form that their own conscience dictates to THEM. We've never understood what gives US the right to deny others the same commitment, love, legal protections and privilages we share just because we're "straight". :hug"



I realize that this is basically a RW distraction but we also need continue to take action against this threat by writing LTTE's, talking to our Reps and teaching people that GLBT rights are basic HUMAN rights that we ALL share. Heck our country was started with a declaration of these these basic human "Creator" given RIGHTS: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Thanks for letting me vent a bit :pals: ... and now I need to start my crazy day... :hangover:

[BOSSHOG]

1. My wife and I have been married

32 years. No children. We are incredibly happy. We do not fear that if Gays get married and move in next door our marriage will fail. I'd rather have gay neighbors then religiously insane zealots. Vent away!

[WePurrsevere]

5. Perhaps if those hetro couples who feel threatened by "gay marriage"

were as secure in their hetro relationship and in their own sexuality as apparently you and your wife and my husband and I are they wouldn't feel so threatened and afraid of GLBT's being married.

I've dealt with fundies intimately zand know them all too well. (I had a momentary lack in sanity and married one many years ago... luckily my brain re-engaged about one abusive and wild year later). I've also dealt with GLBT's as dear friends (heck, we have a dear wonderful friend who is both gay and a hurricane refuge living with us until he can get back on his feet). DH & I both would gladly take GLBT's as roomies and neighbors any day over many of these narrow minded, happily ignornant, bigoted and very scared fundies.

[kineneb]

9. married 25 years, also no kids

quietly happy, out in the country. Given Hubby's medical issues, I am glad we had no children.

So we are also pariahs, because we didn't breed? Hummmph.

[skipos]

2. Keep unwanted kids from being adopted by gay parents

and leave them in orphanages. Yeah, that will will really be great for them. :sarcasm: If republicans get their way, make abortion illegal and keep gays from adopting unwanted children, the orphanages will be overflowing.

[WePurrsevere]

8. Nice "family values" they have aren't they? ::sarcasm:: The fact is......

they don't really care about kids or anything but their agenda to WIN and make money. The rest is talking the talk without walking the walk BS.

[havocmom]

3. Great points. A slippery slope to forced breeding or loneliness,

depending on one's circumstances. Hope lots of people read your post, mull it over in their heads and talk about it within their circles. Would be good to see LOTS of LTTE on the dangers of setting up parameters for what constitutes marriage in our legal codes.

K&R

[WePurrsevere]

6. Thank you... that's exactly it.. a very slippery slope much as the RFA was

(is) where the courts would have to define "god" and which one is meant.

If people really think about this stuff how far do they really want to push this if it means it might come back and bite them (or their children) in the butt hard someday.

[xchrom]

4. conservative christian have a lot of restrictions on behavior

that they deem ungodly that they would like to see restricted.

two things: as they see it -- it's their world because only they can appreciate god's creation and understand that it is as much a curse as a blessing.:crazy:

and it isn't their wee-wees and hoo-haws they are worried about - - it's YOUR wee-wee and hoo-haw they are worried about.
YOUR wee-wee or hoo-haw is a threat to them.

whether you are straight or gay.

that doesn't mean they don't have SPECIAL hate for gays -- but trust me -- your naughty bits are on their agenda.

[WindRavenX]

7. I'd like to take a moment and apologize for Mitt "Mittens" Romney

How that asshat got elected in MA is beyond me, but I am sorry nonetheless :pals:

[Raine]

10. I'm 55 too old to

give birth I guess I'll never be allowed to marry then either if the goal is just to raise children. :cry: