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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:49 PM
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I'm surprised there hasn't been an assassination attempt.
Yeah, I said it.

Not that I am advocating it. I think these tyrants should be tried in the Hague and sent to a very dark, very silent, very small prison cell for a very long time. Unlike them, I don't believe in the use of violence.

But it makes me wonder. This president is so hated, and there are so many crazies in this country... why hasn't it happened?

To be honest, I was really surprised that the neocons didn't kill off their frontman just before the 2004 election, to stir up the masses and impose martial law. It's not like he does anything except make them and us look stupid on the world stage. But he's a good deflector, or so they think. I am still stunned that the MIHOP terrorist attack I predicted didn't happen then, either.

Any thoughts?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:52 PM
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1. He's too good a front man....
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:52 PM
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2. Even insane people don't want Cheney
as Prez?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:52 PM
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3. I'm surprised too
I had thought there might have been one during the inaugaration.
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Canadian_NewDemocrat Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:54 PM
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4. would anyone shed a tear
if Bush was assassinated?
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:55 PM
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5. Kindasleezy Rice would ......... nt
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:57 PM
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6. There was a conspiracy to get * and they caught the guy...
I think he was "Al-Qaeda."
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:57 PM
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7. The psychopaths are on his side.
Why would they hurt him? At any rate, we don't need a martyr.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:58 PM
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8. It does make one wonder,
but I think most of the "crazies" you allude to are actually his supporters. I don't know if that explains it, but in this country I'm pretty sure a left-leaning president would run a significantly greater risk of assassination than Shrub W. Lunatic or someone else of his ilk.

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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:00 PM
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9. Yeah, radical lefties tend to be pretty anti-violence
Like myself.

And the righties are SO SO angry at "liberals". Why do they hate our freedoms? That is REALLY the question. Not even being sarcastic.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:01 PM
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10. I Think He's Simply So Well Protected Nobody Has Got Close
Remember when Reagan got shot, right out on a public sidewalk. You EVER see Bush out on a public sidewalk? Hell no!

He flys everywhere to hop into a bullitproof whatever he might ride in to wherever he's going, which will have at best a well screened audience and then baracades so that no one else can get within a mile of him. He spoke in a town nearby recently and if you were not in the audience you would never have seen him or even his motorcade.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:01 PM
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11. stir up the masses and impose martial law
wait for it
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:02 PM
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12. In an odd way, Cheney is as much of a life insurance policy for
Dubyah as Quayle was for Poppy. Cheney is too sickly to handle the job, Quayle was too stupid (back when folks thought that somehow mattered).
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:03 PM
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13. No body could get to him if they wanted to.
He is the most protected pRes ever. Don't you remember during the 2nd "ignore your nation?" His limo had so much armour on it that Will Pitt aptly said it looked more like a bowling ball rolling down Pennsylvania Avenue. Can you imaginge the fuel that thing burns? Probably gets 2 miles per gallon. Air Force One burns over 8 grand and hour.

There are snipers on the WH constantly.

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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:03 PM
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14. i guess you havent noticed its the populist good-guys that get whacked.
gandhi, mlk, kennedy.

its the fascist bastards doing the whacking.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:04 PM
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15. Because the NSA is listening and watching EVERYTHING.
How do you know there haven't been attempts? Wasn't their a serious attempt in Eastern Europe during one of King Chimp's visits?

I suspect that there are attempts than we would know about.

J
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:04 PM
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16. As I've said before, I think it's 'scheduled' for mid-2008
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:09 PM
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19. I seriously thot it might happen during 2001 inaug .... sort of
like the religious death to protect a group ..... I thought he might have been set up like in 1 of the ancient Latin American tribes: a year of a 'great life' then the sacrifice.....then Jeb, who supposedly is smarter and maybe was supposed to run for pres, would take over
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:05 PM
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17. My thought is people should have known better in 2k4.
Never should have been close enough to steal.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:06 PM
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18. I wonder too - and he is sitting under the zero curse
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 04:07 PM by RamboLiberal
not that I take stock in it - but it still makes me say h'mmmm.

Actually I was always worried for Bill Clinton and now Hillary the way the right demonized them. I was worried that one of their gun-toting RWingnuts would try to do the job. And I bet Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, etc., would not be appalled.

I don't want anyone to take a shot at Bush - couldn't stand to see him deified as a martyr.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:09 PM
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20. Or... if there has been one or two or three
how would we know? There is so much happening behind the scenes that if they thought it in their best interest to keep it quiet as to how one or two or three people(s) were able to get to the *resident, they would hush it up, move the offenders to GITMO or other locations abroad and no one to be the wiser... simply because they can.

Ok. I am putting my hat on now. :tinfoilhat:
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:20 PM
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21. Agree - we just don't KNOW about them
I guess.

If it happens, it'll be an inside job, for sure.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:45 PM
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49. We sure didn't hear much when he had a grenade tossed at him overseas.
Why was that not a HUGE story, unless they have a standing policy
of surpressing news of such incidents?

Why didn't the major networks spend 3 days in round-the-clock
coverage of the police manhunt for the grenade-thrower?

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/07/21/arutyunyan.shtml
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:23 PM
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22. Presidents are very well protected.
The Secret Service by and large does a very good job. Think back on such attempts in the last 50 years or so, and it takes a combination of very good planning and even more good luck to even get near enough to attempt anything.

A young friend of mine was in DC recently, and El Presidente came by in a motorcade -- unannounced of course -- and people on the street booed and jeered as it drove by. And after it passed an elderly black man slowly lifted his right hand and gave the departing cars the finger. I guess that sums up the general attitude towards this man far better than any poll numbers.

Every where he goes he's met by anti-Bush, anti-war demonstrators. And they are almost never reported, not even in the local press, let alone national press.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:27 PM
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23. Bush can thank god that my son is not in the military and fighting
in his damn war! If I lost a son in Iraq, I swear the secret service would have to kill me.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:28 PM
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24. they don't call him "back door Bush" for nothing
From the first days of his occupancy, Bush has been hidden from public view when entering or leaving a site. Canopies are constructed to hide entrances to buildings he visits.

They knew from day one that he would be hated, because they knew what he was going to do. They treated him like a totalitarian figurehead from day one.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:29 PM
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40. Not so sure that's the real reason he's called "backdoor bush!"
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:29 PM
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25. Dick Cheney is VP
That's why.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:35 PM
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26. Nobody likes this idiot Lizard
When he was placed in the WH by Scalia and riding in his motorcade there were so many eggs thrown at his car that he couldn't get out of the Limo and walk to his swearing in as other presidents have done.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:39 PM
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27. You've finally voiced what I've been thinking
and occasionally saying. I'm absolutely shocked that no one has attempted to take his life.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:01 PM
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34. I agree. He's a useless POS.



I haven't said much about it here because I don't want any Suburbans with dark tinted glass hanging around my house.



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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:46 PM
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28. Its just a matter of time
They don't need to take out the political dudes, i'd expect more along the lines
of blackwell, katherineharris, rove, jeb, and parts of the machine that are just
as evil, that would send a message where the buck stops.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:50 PM
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31. My 88 year old dad had a vision of Bush being assassinated.
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mike6640 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:49 PM
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29. As much as I loath the man and his policies,
It would truly suck to see him reach 'sainthood' through assasination.

Read Sarah Vowell's "Assassination Vacation"; She states it more eloquently than I.

M
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:50 PM
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30. The only people who conduct assassinations in this country
are the right-wingers.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:52 PM
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32. and right-wingers will do anything to win elections... something to
ponder...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:21 PM
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37. Yep ...
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/TahitiNut/284

I've been of the opinion that they'll martyr Smirk in mid-2008 for well over a year, now. He'd be far to much of a loose cannon as an ex-pResident and far, far more useful as a martyr. It just makes too much sense to ignore.
:shrug:



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:25 PM
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38. And in power
Why would they shoot the guy they've wanted in office since FDR.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:53 PM
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33. You'd have to take out too many people to get past all the neocons. nt
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:02 PM
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35. Because we understand this is something new
Bush isn't Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini or any of the others. This is something new. This isn't about one person, one evil dictator, or one politician. Bush is only the face of the evil that has infiltrated our government. The solution can only be done politically, violence will never win this war. We must defeat neoconservatism from its roots in our local governments all the way up to the national senators, congresspeople, and executive branch. That is the only answer.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:25 PM
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39. indeed
Time for some serious civil disobedience, IMHO
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:21 PM
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36. He's on the wrong side to be a target. IOW, JFK, RFK, or even Ford,
Bush is not.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:29 PM
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41. If he died nothing would change, only we can make things change
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:32 PM
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43. this is true but I still find myself
day dreaming about winning the lottery and the above mentioned. I used to only have the big dream about the lottery, now I switch back and forth between the two. It makes me smile. But you're right.

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:31 PM
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42. I'm surprised this isn't locked yet.
My thoughts are that his security must be pretty damn good.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:33 PM
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44. Again
I am not advocating violence. I don't want him to be assassinated. For many reasons. The foremost one being that I think it's wrong to kill another human being. Period.

But I am just surprised, that in a country so filled with assorted weirdos, no one has done it. I think about the Unabomber or Timothy McVeigh.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:42 PM
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46. He's extremely hated, but rightwingers just hate better.
They hated the Clintons with a burning murderous passion.
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jollyreaper2112 Donating Member (955 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:39 PM
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45. I'm surprised that there isn't more violence
You've got your lone nut gunmen and then you've got your professionals. You don't have to do anything to piss off a lone nut aside from being famous. Even the blandest, most inoffensive president in the world has to worry about these bozos. If you're a democratically elected leftist president in South America, you have to worry about the professionals.

I think there's more lone nuts than covert ops guys out there. You know what surprises me? That there aren't more shootings of CEO's and the like. We hear about the nuts gunning down their coworkers but we don't hear of the Enron retiree who lost his life savings and snaps, going after the guy who screwed him. Don't know why we don't hear about it, I guess that maybe that requires more planning. Shooting your coworkers, it's just going to work like you always do, this time with a gun. The people who die are targets of opportunity who just happened to be there. Hitting someone like Ken Lay, that requires more thinking, planning, dedication. I wouldn't know where to find Lay on a given day of the week. I doubt I'd know any better if I'd invested in Enron. I don't think someone in the murder-suicide frame of mind would be capable of doing the legwork to track him down.

Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't heard about anyone taking a swing at Bush. You'd think this would be something that would earn a lot of sympathy points. "Rally behind the prez, be american!" etc. I guess his security is good enough that the lone nuts simply don't have the opportunity to take a shot. As for the professionals, perhaps their bosses just haven't seen a need for it yet. With all the rancor I remember surrounding Clinton, all these conservatives talking about blowing him away, you'd think we'd be hearing ten times the anger after what Bush has done.
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Canadian_NewDemocrat Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:44 PM
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48. honestly,
this is going to sound extreme but I am going to say it anyway...hopefully, being in another nation will protect me from the CIA's wrath.

My friend was visiting Toronto recently and he said that Bush is about to invade and destroy another nation and even if the majority of Americans are against it, it'll happen anyway, and if it does, it's the American peoples fault as much as it is the Bush Administrations. Honestly, the people of the US haven't done enough to stop this administration...if they truly detested it, there would've been an assassination by now. Protesting only does so much, revolting is the only sure way to despose of them...
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:58 PM
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54. welcome to DU Canadian_NewDemocrat
:hi: Unfortunately, as long as Americans still have Fox News, Wal-Mart, and McDonald's there won't be a revolution (yet). People here seem too willing to give up many freedoms to remain comfortable, and those who aren't comfortable have no power and little support. However I suspect that things will rapidly change soon, for better or worse, not sure in what order. We can work for change NOW and offset calamity or we can wait for the inevitable collapse of civilization. Unfortunately, unless we get off of our computers and into the streets, the latter seems more likely.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:43 PM
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47. By the same token, I'm surprised there hasn't been a Revolution.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:47 PM
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50. I thought there was, in some other country (memory escapes me),...
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 05:52 PM by Just Me
,..one or two guys throwing "dead" grenades from three hundred feet away!!! :rofl:

I know, I shouldn't be laughing,...but,....

:rofl:

On edit: not laughing, those who are eagerly greedy want this guy alive and loyally moralists won't consider that so,...he'll make history as one of the few elected in a 00 year without assasination. The rest of his history will be fucking ugly whether he likes it or not.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:49 PM
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51. I was always surprised that Clinton wasn't assassinated.
There was a whole industry based on demonizing that man.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:51 PM
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52. People are more interested in watering their flowers than.....
....doing anything like that?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:52 PM
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53. them's dangerous words
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 06:01 PM
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55. Locking
Speculation about this is probably not a good idea. Inflammatory
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