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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:11 AM
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"JAZEERAGATE".Nothing will impact the news you hear in the future more:
While it may never reach the epic proportions of Watergate, nothing impacts a lying dictator and the news we will hear in the future, more than reliable reports that dispute his propaganda.

Some might wonder why six month old news on Haditha and other past atrocities are finally in the forefront but media insiders likely know the reason. Move over BBC and Fox, Al-Jazeera is spreading its wings. If you think timing of the Jessie Macbeth story, which asserts that My Lai-type Massacres are widespread in Iraq, is accidental prepare for an awakening. If you blinked you missed the whole show but don't feel dumb. Mental missiles are firing across the web at a mind-boggling rate and no relief is in sight.

Prepare to experience information overload in the "War of Ideas" and buckle the mental safety-belt because an odyssey of illusion is just beginning in the wake of new Al-Jazeera TV news, in English. Did the prospect of Al-Jazeera in English trigger a recent flood of facts and falsehoods? Not long ago, reliable sources reported initial broadcasts were to begin in April or May. According to one source, "Al-Jazeera's English-language channel has suffered a further setback, with its launch delayed until September at the earliest." http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1781396,00.html

"The Qatar-based, 24-hour news channel was originally set to launch in April but a series of construction and technical problems at its four centres in London, Doha, Kuala Lumpur and Washington meant this was pushed back on two separate occasions to June."

We know why the current U.S. dictatorship desires deception. Pure profit is primary motivation for the dynamic-duo of deceit that currently wields the Military Industrial Complex like clildren playing cowboy: But other than profit, what motivates Al-Jazeera? While I personally doubt it will ever happen again in the U.S. the truth might be nice motivation in media for a change.

Here is some background from Wikipadia, an online dictionary. It appears Al-Jazerra is hiring a reliable well-known news team.

IS "JAZEERAGATE ON THE HORIZON?"

On July 4, 2005 Al Jazeera officially announced plans to launch a new English-language satellite service called Al Jazeera International. Highly protested by many Americans, organized campaigns surfaced against Al-Jazeera's efforts to establish the planned English language network in the United States, protests lead by groups such as the United American Committee. The controversy over Al-Jazeera's establishment in North America has been dubbed by some as "Jazeeragate". Al Jazeera has announced this long-expected move in an attempt to provide news about the Arab world, especially Israel, from the Middle Eastern perspective. The new channel will have broadcast centers in Doha (current Al Jazeera headquarters and broadcast center), Athens , London, Kuala Lumpur, and Washington D.C., when the station launches in May 2006. The channel will be a 24-hours 7-days a week news channel with 12 hours broadcasted from Doha and four hours from each of London, Kuala Lumpur, and Washington D.C.

In September 2005, Josh Rushing joined Al Jazeera International. He was the press officer for the United States Central Command during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, and in that role was featured in the documentary Control Room. Rushing will be working from the Washington DC Bureau. He commented that "In a time when American media has become so nationalised, I'm excited about joining an organisation that truly wants to be a source of global information..." Former CNN and BBC news anchorwoman and award winning journalist Veronica Pedrosa and veteran UK broadcaster David Frost have also joined the team, along with Riz Khan, a former BBC reporter who most recently was host of the CNN talk show Q&A, CNN producer James Wright, and Kieran Baker, a former editor and producer for CNN who most recently was Acting General Manager, Communications and Public Participation for ICANN. On 2 December 2005, Stephen Cole, a senior anchor on BBC World and Click Online presenter, announced he was joining Al-Jazeera International. The network announced on 12 January 2006 that former Nightline correspondent Dave Marash would be the co-anchor from their Washington studio. He described his new position as "the most interesting job on Earth." On 6 February 2006 it was announced that the former BBC reporter Rageh Omaar would host a daily weeknights documentary series, Witness. With Al-Jazeera's growing global outreach and influence, some who thought of them as an "alternative media" source have changed their minds.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:44 AM
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1. please kick it, so that DU will understand reasons for upcoming propaganda
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:48 AM
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2. Takeover of global media is soon complete for BushInc.
Thanks to all those who deflect blame from the media and those who really control it.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:50 AM
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3. Al-Jazeera in ENGLISH is a monkey wrench in the machine
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:05 AM
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4. It will appear that way for the time being and then show who is really in
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 09:07 AM by blm
control soon enough.

The story is still important, though. I'm just very cynical about the corporate media - ALL corporate media - some of these folks are from the very CNN that has been acting as a propaganda tool for BushInc since the 90s.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:18 AM
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5. your post made me wonder if all the delays in opening the new media...
are because Bush is trying to infiltrate and control Al-Jazerra. It's certainly possible. thanks for the kicks we all need to know this new ENGLISH news is going to impact media in the near future, if it isn't already providing a stimulus.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:40 AM
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6. how do you like my new GOLD STAR?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:06 AM
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7. with all the band-width my graphics use it was high time to donate to DU
I wonder why I can't find my first DU OP... I found a thread that responds to my very first pre-Christmas posting at DU. It was pretty funny:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=5667453
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:06 AM
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8. I guess this article is unworthy of attention
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 11:25 AM by Jeffersons Ghost
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:29 AM
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9. a final kick before freepers get out of church to chase it off the board
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:45 PM
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44. This article IS worthy of a lot of attention
Thanks for posting it.

(OK, this should kick it one more time ... It is important)
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:57 AM
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10. thanks for all the VOTES. how about a few KICKS?
why do people vote for what they will not kick at DU, I've always wondered. While some of my topics matter very little, don't people know I will return the favor if they give my important threads a kick or two?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:12 PM
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11. Jeffersons, I'll kick this and add another vote
I agree this is an important story. Our media is our single biggest problem. I only hope these guys can get a slot on the cable services.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:17 PM
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12. thanks, I can't believe more people at DU don't see the significance
days like this make me wonder about DU as a whole. If I was a wealthy republican, like Bill Gates I'd buy DU as toy.
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:41 PM
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13. Thank you--K*R for sure!
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:05 PM
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17. there you go! I guess it was allthe DEMOCRATS who were in Church
I should have known that freepers don't go to church. lol
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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:41 PM
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14. Sorry, I may be dense, but don't see the big deal.
One more news organization pushing their slant on issues. In this case the mid-east slant. What makes you think their news reporting will be filled with any less propaganda than say FAUX News???

:shrug:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:01 PM
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16. At least we will hear the spin from the other view point, not just
what the US corporate media wants us to hear.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:59 PM
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29. Why would the truth need spin at all?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:41 PM
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34. When money is involved, truth finds no friends.
It is up to us to insist on the truth, and until then we need to be wary of all we hear.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 06:17 PM
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48. Well, if the MSM peddles complete lies all the time, as it does,
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 06:18 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
any news outfit that claims that it intends to counter their lies - assuming they're on related subjects - must ipso facto publish the truth. Any spin that it applies, on the other hand, could not but help take it closer to the lies of the MSM. There's truthfulness and mendacity, and any departure from either must necessarily bring it closer to the other, whereas you were posting opposing spins - as if they were both dealing in lies.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 07:25 PM
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49. I was talking about extremes. Because of this administration's lying
and the lies told by the MSM we have to protective of the truth. We cannot afford to allow spin and lies from our side, because the right wing will attribute more than a few to us.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:55 PM
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36. It Doesn't ... and that's where the US based media fails
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:10 PM
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18. it's the OPPOSITE slant FL. DEM.. you really can't see the impact? how odd
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 01:15 PM by Jeffersons Ghost
comments like the last one killed this info, last time I tried to spread the word on this Al-Jazerra topic but it's too late to kill it today. As my OP clearly states, we can expect "INFORMATION OVERLOAD" from propaganda.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:18 PM
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20. They'll break stories that have been covered up. Like the war. The whole w
war.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:35 PM
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22. we'll also see more actual war footage on TV. have you seen more lately?
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 01:36 PM by Jeffersons Ghost
maybe it's just wishful thinking but it seems I've seen a LOT more battle footage in the past few days. Is news on Iraq, MORE DETAILED lately in your opinions?

some of you may think you know it all, when it comes to propaganda but read this:
http://www.propagandacritic.com/
I used to be a smarty-pants, know-it-all on propaganda but I learned several new things about it from that short straight-forward site.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:13 PM
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25. Are you really comparing Al Jazeera to Fox "News"?
You really don't know much about Al Jazeera, if that's the case.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:01 PM
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30. i know plenty about fox news though and welcome to DU
Since I've never had the pleasure of reading your writings in OPs or on my threads; what's YOUR opinion of FOX and Al-Jazerra, SeveneightyWhoa?
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:55 PM
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37. Welcome to DU?
What the f$*# are you implying, bud?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:13 PM
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39. I'm implying nothing. I simply stated facts and welcomed you to my thread
do you intend to answer my earlier questions at all? BTW, the OP didn't actually "compare" the two TV, stations and that was obviously not the point of the thread. what made you think that it was?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:05 PM
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31. Why do you think AJ would contain as much propaganda?
Why would it need to contain any propaganda? Unfortunately, they have truth on their side. Don't you think that would be a sufficiently terrible condemnation of the imperial "Coalition of the Willing"?
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:15 PM
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40. in fact, you are correct. they won't need much spin on the info...
maybe that's how they've attracted leading news-people from around the world. NO SPIN ON NEWS is a big perk for true newspeople.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 06:08 PM
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47. Yep. You know I was responding to Fla Dem's post #14,
Edited on Sun Jun-04-06 06:09 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
though, don't you? I wasn't querying any of your posts.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:03 PM
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51. no i missed that it was so far away but I'm curious what Fla-dem reply
sorry, i didn't mean to intrude
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:22 PM
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62. Not at all. No word yet, though.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 05:51 AM
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58. seen Control Room?
That'll help give some understanding of the AlJaz perspective... and how they do news there. You'd be surprised at how much better at portraying actual events their news is. More impartial than you'd think.

Give it a shot...
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 12:42 PM
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15. Kick.
:kick:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:42 PM
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42. thanks for the kick bleever
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:15 PM
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19. Looking forward to Al Jazeera in English.
Kick

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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:23 PM
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21. you know what, it's ALREADY in English online!
I may just start posting OPs IN ENGLISH from the sites to keep DU advised on how either the TV station or it's blockage, which will bring on "JAZEEAGATE," is developing. I'd rather see "JAZEERAGATE myself as the liars fry.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 01:59 PM
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23. ttt n/t
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:39 PM
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33. the "ttt" is a new one to me but I see the "nt" a lot on my threads
what does "nt" mean?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:04 PM
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38. nt means "no text"
ie there is no more text than what is in the subject of a post. It means people don't have to bother clicking from the diagram of the replies to see further comment - it's a small courtesy to readers, that's all.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:28 PM
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41. thanks, i've always wondered n/t
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ArmchairMeme Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:08 PM
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24. K & R
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:59 PM
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45. thanks for the vote! nt
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:26 PM
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26. Wait... you seem to be implying that....
Free Speech may be not-so-free in Murika. That can't be.... all those troops are over there fighting to keep us free here.

:sarcasm:

kick
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:31 PM
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27. yep that is what the Navy told me in boot-camp in '72 for a freedom fight
but that wasn't a REAL war, like Iraq... it was this itsy-bitsy "police action" that escalated into a "conflict." see the difference, Bigmack?
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:13 PM
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32. Anyone spotted invading Vietnamese row boats yet? They
must BE in row boats - after all this time. But the logistics must be awesome when you think of the artillery field pieces, planes, etc., they must be carrying. On mature reflection, I think giant rafts must be what they're using, with batteries of outboard motors. Evinrude, perhaps.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 03:48 PM
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35. OMG! DUCK AND COVER!! IT'S NOT THE VC AFTER ALL!!! IT'S IRANIANS
IN ROW-BOATS!!!!
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 02:47 PM
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28. thanks for posting this, Jeffersons G. k&r!!!!!
let's keep this baby Up There.
hugely important news.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 05:26 PM
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46. thanks kick it back if you like it high. thanks for you're support!
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Jigarotta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:02 PM
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50. I was mulling about what Al Jezeera could be covering...
just a before and after on what Baghdad looked like before Gulf War I and what it is like now on specific locations around the city. Wouldn't that just be Too much for some of the 'supporters of democracy at the end of a cannon' to handle?

and proper coverage on depleted urainium and it's effects.

and coverage on conditions on how some Palestinians are forced to live.

Maybe I'm expecting too much but it would be great to see some real truth on the tube.
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:47 PM
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53. hmmm palistine... Al-J TV might be anti-semtic... that would suck
yep, they might have a subtle, sick agenda.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 04:44 PM
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43. bump
:kick:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 09:24 PM
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54. thanks for the late kick
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 10:09 PM
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55. thanks for the bump
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 08:29 PM
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52. Rec & Kick !
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:17 PM
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56. thanks for the kick
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-04-06 11:56 PM
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57. You speak my language.
:toast:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 07:15 AM
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59. The lineup sounds OLD BBC rather than New Arab TV
Now, the problem is going to be getting the local CABLE companies to carry it in the face of a multi-sourced mega boycott.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 08:32 AM
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60. That's not too different form how they built the Arab Al Jazeera
The BBC set up an Arab language TV news station, based in Saudi Arabia, in the early 90s, but the Saudi Arabian government insisted on censoring it, and the BBC gave up. A lot of the people who worked on it then went to the new Al Jazeera in Qatar.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 12:23 PM
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61. THe most exciting news I've seen since 1999.
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 12:24 PM by emcguffie
Gives me hope. And it's okay that folks from CNN and BBC are going over. All the journalists that work for corporate media don't necessarily approve of what's been happening. CNN wasn't like this, once upon a time. Not before deregulation. Not when it still belonged to Ted Turner. This is all relatively recent.

But it happened gradually enough that many, or maybe most, Americans have not quite registered how bad it is and how much of an impact it is having.

Kerry didn't have a chance. The media made his image. The media made Gore's image. If you have all of the country's media against you, you don't have a chance, period. Well, I shouldn't say that. I think Kerry still won by 4 million votes. Those debates, remember? The people watching didn't think Bush did okay... just because the puppets said he did. People aren't that stupid.

Of course, that's just my two cents.

So this could really help. But why would the cable companies offer it? They wouldn't have to, would they? Can't they just shut them out of the market?

Gee, how do you recommend something? I can't remember.... (this is on edit)
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