William Rivers Pitt wrote this 2/03

[serryjw]

I have been looking for this quote for hours. Over three years later...kinda gives you the creeps

quote........

It behooves Americans to understand that there is a great difference between being the citizen of a constitutional democracy and being a citizen of an empire. The establishment of an empire requires some significant sacrifices.

Essential social, medical, educational and retirement services will have to be gutted so that those funds can be directed towards a necessary military buildup. Actions taken abroad to establish the preeminence of American power, most specifically in the Middle East, will bring a torrent of terrorist attacks to the home front. Such attacks will bring about the final suspension of constitutional rights and the rule of habeas corpus, as we will find ourselves under martial law. In the end, however, this may be inevitable. An empire cannot function with the slow, cumbersome machine of a constitutional democracy on its back. Empires must be ruled with speed and ruthlessness, in a manner utterly antithetical to the way in which America has been governed for 227 years.

And yes, of course, a great many people will die.

end quote........
http://truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=1&num=53

[shadowknows69]

1. A lot of us saw this writing on the wall

edited by author for unnecessary cynicism

[shadowknows69]

2. Ok, I don't even know why I posted that last post.

Had a shitty night at work. Appy polly loggies.

[leveymg]

3. Happens to all of us.

Be patient with yourself, and others. :hi:

[MessiahRp]

4. I don't understand

how every one of us here and across the World millions knew the case for WMDs was bullshit yet the people that voted for the war in Congress still to this day swear they had no idea and were given bad intelligence. Same can be said when we voiced our worst fears with The Patriot Act and it passed with flying colors.

In this case again we're all on top of what Bush is doing in creating an empirical nation and eliminating Constitutional rights and nobody in Congress has been willing to stop him.

All the worst case scenarios are playing out and Congress sits on it's hands and lets it happen claiming ignorance.

Rp

[Rainbowreflect]

5. When ever I hear the talking heads on TV saying...

"Everyone believed there were WMDs." I want to scream, I knew it was B.S. DUers knew it was B.S. Friends & family knew it was B.S. Don't tell me our "leader" did not know!

[Arkansas Granny]

6. Our "leader" knew as well. He had to order the inspectors out

of Iraq so he could attack before they could prove that there were no WMD's.

[tuvor]

7. Remember that next time bush says Saddam kicked them out.

He's done it before.

[Arkansas Granny]

10. Yes, I've heard him on several occasions state that Saddam

would not let the inspectors in.

[serryjw]

9. The many versions of my personal 'scream'

quote......

Rice’s 2002 riff on the mantra: "I don't think anybody could have predicted…that they would try to use an airplane as a missile. Had this president known a plane would be used as a missile, he would have acted on it."

Dr. Rice essentially repeated herself when she appeared before the 9/11 Commission, two years later. However, she carefully narrowed the focus. "No one could have imagined them taking a plane, slamming it into the Pentagon, into the World Trade Center," she said. The President “would have moved heaven and earth” to avoid such an outcome.

President Bush made a statement to the same effect on the first day of the televised hearings, then repeated himself at his April 13 press conference: “ad I had any inkling whatsoever that the people were going to fly airplanes into buildings we would have moved heaven and earth to save the country,” said Bush, in his inimitable, slightly annoyed tone
end quote........
http://www.blackcommentator.com/87/87_guest_condi.html

It's fun to see that they change their propaganda even now and then for us who pay attention

[Laurab]

8. Very creepy - thanks for finding and posting

he nailed a LOT of stuff in that article. Who was going to profit, what we were really doing by going into Iraq.

The last paragraph is kind of chilling, too: "France and Germany stand against the Bush administration because they intend to stop this Pax Americana in its tracks if they can. They have seen militant fascism up close and personal before, and wish never to see it again.

Would that we Americans could be so wise."