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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:22 PM
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Poll question: what is your opinion of the DLC
If you choose other please provide your opinions
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:24 PM
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1. It is not liberal...
It is not progressive...
It is not populist..
It is not humanist...
It is not for me.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:27 PM
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2. The DLC is the Republican branch of the Democratic party.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:27 PM
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3. DLC is the corporatist wing of the party.
They undercut any real progressive policies. They also have a few RW moles in the organization.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:29 PM
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4. Mondale lost to Regan -so nix the only opposition to corporatocracy?
:shrug:
no no no no no
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:29 PM
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5. Other. Political parties' histories are in constant flux. A Lincoln
Edited on Wed May-31-06 09:31 PM by Old Crusoe
Republican of 1960 is not a Jeff Sessions Republican or a Tom Coburn Republican of 2006.

The pre-conversion George Wallace was a Southern Democratic governor.

Bill Clinton was also a Southern Democratic governor.

While Wallace told the press in 1968 that he was "gittin' sick'n'tired of bussin' lil' school chilren" and in his early administrations stood by segregation fiercely, that other southern Democratic governor, Bill Clinton, when he was elected president, asked Maya Angelou to read at his Inauguration.

Things shift.

The DLC is a well-organized group within the ranks of many groups trying to assert influence on the direction of the party. Their successes are not guaranteed, and their opponents' successes aren't either. If I prefer Barbara Boxer to the late Howell Heflin, it isn't because I assume that Heflin could cut it in the Bay Area in California. And it certainly isn't because I assume Boxer could be elected in a statewide race in Alabama.

In baseball parks, the homerun walls are not uniform. Each stadium is a little different. Players must adapt.

I go with the candidate for the office he or she seeks in the state or district where I'm registered. That's my starting point.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:18 PM
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13. Congratuations! You orated passionately for 208 words...
...without saying a single thing about the question at hand.

You have a bright future in politics. ;-)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:49 PM
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16. If you'd read it more carefully and with a lot less snark, you'd have
picked up on the point.

Thanks.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:29 PM
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6. Is this trip really necessary?
Hang here long enough and you will KNOW what people's opinion of the DLC is.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:30 PM
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7. The Lieberman wing of the democratic party. n/t
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Asgaya Dihi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:34 PM
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8. A mistake
The dominance of the DLC represents a lack of choices to a lot of people. They got tired of the repubs over the years but looked for options and saw republican light instead of a choice so they just drop out. With the supposed "freedom" stand of libertarians and the progressive side of the Dem's not so visible it's just handed win after win to the other side.

The Dem's would be better off without them, see what happens with progressives and a real choice for a change.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:37 PM
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9. Guess which one I chose.
:D


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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:40 PM
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10. ooh, ooh, I know I know!
:nuke:
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:54 PM
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11. Other. The DLC not for me but it has a place in the Democratic Party.
Conservatives can be Democrats too, even Holy Joe Lieberman.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:21 PM
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14. Well, I agree that the DLC has its place...
...unfortunately, for about the last decade, that place has been known as "the Republican Party." :grr:

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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 09:57 PM
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12. The only thing worse than a neocon
is a neocon enabler.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:23 PM
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15. Other
The DLC is a PAC with an agenda it has every right to push, just like WesPAC, DFA PAC, and so forth. All of these PACs have a right to support candidates who reflect their beliefs and they have a right to their beliefs. I agree with DLC on many issues just as I agree with DFA (just an example) on many issues. I don't agree with either on every single issue. So what? I don't say anybody has to purged from the party just because they don't do every thing I want them to do. There's some kind of mass hysteria on both sides of this family squabble. It's really dumb, especially in a year like this when we can actually win for once. I say everybody stays. The more the better, through 2006 and on to 2008.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:53 PM
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17. I recognize the right of the DLC to exist within the Democratic party
The DLC is just one of many, many voices in the party. Most of the time I don't agree with them, but they have their place within the party.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:54 PM
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18. I'll be thrilled when they decide that working together doesn't mean
US always working for THEM.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 10:56 PM
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19. meet the dlc leadership team-
unfortunately, you probably can expect to see for one or two of these pukes on a democratic presidential ticket near you in 2008.



i detest the dlc, and will NEVER waste another vote on one of it's DINO candidates that's foisted on us.
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sierrajim Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:20 PM
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20. Definitely the "Elitist" club
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:33 PM
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21. I actually like the concept of a party with several wings.....
The Democratic party is not a Borg-like monolith. We are allowed differences, within reason. I personally welcome any vote that helps make Harry Reid majority leader of the senate or Nancy Pelosi Speaker of the House.
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:37 PM
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22. At first I didn't mind them
I used to think that they would help get more moderates into the Democratic Party. What they have really done is betray the ideals of the Democratic Party, and in my opinion, they have helped the right wing stay in power for so long. They are pansies who wouldn't stand up to the fascists destroying our country from the top down, instead focusing on getting the tainted corporate contributions into their coffers. I say we lose them.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 11:44 PM
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23. split
I realize the DLC reaches out to the muddled middle and the 'red' states where the party can't run candidates with views to the left of Santorum if they expect to win...I understand and appreciate that...I also realize that the DLC wants the majority in congress back, and have adopted a win-at-all-cost, "don't-care-about-the-candidate's-views-as-long-as-he's-got-that-"D"-by-his-name-because-its-all-about-'electability'" strategy...I can understand and appreciate that as well.....My only problem happens when the DLC forgets what being an opposition party is all about, and spends more ammo attacking liberals rather than the dolts in the white house and congress...

it's about offering voters a clear choice apart from the GOP, and when the more 'conservative' parts of the DLC speak up about finishing the job in iraq, going along to get along with bush and his appointees, and publicly tainting the political left, then i begin to wonder what their true motivations are...I don't care what side of the DLC debate you're on, NOBODY wants a repeat of Zell Miller openly working with and giving credibility to the fascists, and that is what i fear will happen in the future...
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:06 AM
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24. same here..
the DLC produced some interesting alternatives to Clinton's healthcare bill in 1993. Some of these alternatives probably could of produced a positive outcome..both for the uninsured and our party. But DLC strongly opposed Clinton's budget in 1993, which I believe is the biggest reason for the surpluses of the late 90's. They supported NAFTA, which I believe deserves much of the blame for illegal immigration in this country.

Otto Von Bismarck referred to politics as the art of possible. But the DLC treats politics as the art of the unassuming. I believe the DLC, or something like it, would have a positive role to play within the Republican party. But inside a party with practically no leverage on any issue, the DLC is only undermining what little credibility Democrats now have with voters. If there was a RLC within the Republican party, not only would Republicans be forced to moderate their positions..but they could possibly increase their numbers in Congress!

Democrats need to make Republicans fight to pass anything, especially on issues like taxcuts and the environment. And Democrats should never let Republicans pass security or trade bills without first forcing a compromise. But as long as the DLC only encourages cooperation and civility with Republicans, Democrats cannot win a majority.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:23 AM
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25. I always thought..
their platform is too much "how can that Republican plan be modified?" instead of "what can we do differently?" Not all of their members are bad, but I wish they weren't a national player.
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tibbir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:40 AM
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26. The DLC is what makes Democrats the minority party.
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