Build the fucking wall.

[Sapphire Blue]

Do you honestly believe that corporations will raise workers' wages if a fucking wall is built????

Do you honestly believe any CEO bastard will give up their enormous profits for your benefit????

Who will you blame falling wages on then????

[FreakinDJ]

1. With tougher Employer Sanctions

don't need a wall

[JuniperLea]

8. We don't need no stinking wall

We just need to enforce the employment laws already in place.

[liberal N proud]

2. Do you honestly believe that illegals will stop coming to the US

if they build a wall?

[Xipe Totec]

7. If you build it, they will climb.

:hide:

On a more serious note, if we actually did build a wall so that immigrants could not come to work here, the jobs would migrate to them instead. Then, not only would we not have jobs, but we would not have their income to tax either.

[Deja Q]

3. It's just a game. The fact they are building it so slipshod proves it.

Another poster put up the heckle-worthy pics.

Besides, why can't Mexicans fight to improve their country?

Fleeing one's country seems rather selfish, albeit from a certain perspective.

[Selatius]

4. Build a wall and punish employers who knowingly use illegal immigrants

It's a bit of both, in my opinion.

[LostInAnomie]

5. Place huge fines and jail time on the employers.

Take away the jobs and there wouldn't be any reason for them to try to cross.

[goclark]

17. As long as GW is in office, major employERS will not suffer

one bit.


So the fines will be placed on all employers that have had or currently employee illegals?

Question~ As we speak, I have an Hispanic Tree Surgeon lifting a gigantic tree out of my back yard.

What would I have to do, since I am the employER, to know absolutely,that everyone of the 8 helpers is a LEGAL citizen of the United States?

I ask that question because they would not start with the Developers that line GW's pockets, they would start with me, average citizen.

If I could be assured that the GREEDY not the NEEDY would be the winner I'm half way there on this one but --- it ain't happening that way.

[LostInAnomie]

28. You aren't the employer.

You are purchasing services from the employer. There is a world of difference. But if you were, it does not take any effort to have your employees present you with more than just a social security number.

The line about how hard it is to be sure that you are hiring a US citizen is pushed by those who aren't interested in knowing.

You are right about how the little guy will be the one to suffer though. Walmart is a prime example of how big business is protected when it comes to illegal hiring.

[Swamp Rat]

6. NO!!! BUILD LEVEES!!!

I said, BUILD LEVEES!!!

[Sapphire Blue]

9. That's what we SHOULD be building!!!

[stepnw1f]

19. They Can Afford a Stupid Wall, But Not Levees

incredible....

[Maiden England]

44. Its another example of...

keeping the immigrants over there, so we don't have to ship them out of NO for the next hurricane - the levees would make too much of a sensible suggestion

[sweetheart]

10. build a wall, bury the mines

conceal the poison gas vents and cover the machine gun emplacements.

With the proper vulcan gun installations along the border in concealed raytheon mounts,
that can vapourize any immigant in to a cloud of depleted uranium and flesh/bood vapour.

Then the border will be clean. Nobody will cross until the germans end around the forests
of the ardenne... but that's later...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. Hey, it worked for the Chinese...oh, wait.

But, at least their useless venture in controlling people ended up a tourist attraction.

[ComerPerro]

12. gays?

[stepnw1f]

13. The Wall Will be Symbolic of Our Loss of Freedom

like an eagle in a zoo... humans living in compunds, or inmates in a jail.

[Deja Q]

15. But only on Mexico's side.

When will Canada get the Great(er) Wall treatment?

[stepnw1f]

16. Nah... Mexicans can Leave When They Want

Those of us in debt, can't. We'll become slaves...

[tlsmith1963]

24. Actually...

I worry that the wall will be built to keep us *in*, like the old East Berlin. If this country goes completely to hell, I want an escape route. I don't want a wall.

Tammy

[roody]

29. De acuerdo!

I plan to be on the other side of any wall. You will not be let out!

[don954]

14. build it, it will give us a great object to knock down

to symbolize the end of the neo-con era ala the Berlin wall.

[stepnw1f]

18. "George Bush... Tear Down This Wall"

interesting juxtaposition.

[quickesst]

23. When will ..

Canada get it's own wall? Interesting question. I suppose when their economy collapses under the weight of rampant corruption, then lacking the courage to do something about it, they start crossing the border enmasse. That should do it. Thanks.
quickesst

[GreenArrow]

20. a better suggestion...

end the drug war.

[Zynx]

21. Exactly. CEOs won't raise wages regardless.

[tlsmith1963]

22. I Agree With You

The problem is with the corporations, not illegal immigrants. If a wall is built, they will just find other ways to screw us over. They are greedy & don't want to pay anyone a fair wage. Bashing immigrants is a waste of time. We need to start asking why capitalism doesn't seem to be working for most people. If it's so great, then why do so many people suffer under this system?

Tammy

[Sapphire Blue]

26. Yet so many fail to understand this & continue to bash illegal immigrants.

[RebelOne]

25. Better yet, build a moat and put all of Florida's

alligators in it. That should deter illegals.

[Sapphire Blue]

30. Yeah, it'll bring wages up, too.

:sarcasm:

[FantasticFlan]

27. No wall was ever needed here

Make it a felony to employ illegal aliens, prosecute CEOs and business owners, problem solved (after a general amnesty of course).

But, like you said, profits, it won't happen with Rs running the show.

[Sapphire Blue]

31. Hmmmm... doesn't seem to be many wall proponents here tonight.

[Kickin_Donkey]

32. As if a wall is going to do any good ...

Roughly 40,000 vehicles per day pass through the San Ysidro border crossing (San Diego) into the United States from Mexico -- and that's just one border crossing. Additionally, you do realize that much of the coastlines of Texas and Southern California are a short boat ride from Mexico, no?

I lived in Japan for 9 years in the 1980s and '90s, and there were plenty of illegal immigrants there from Asian countries. In case you didn't know, Japan is an island nation surrounded by hundreds, if not thousands, of miles of open sea.

The wall is just a PR measure. Pure folly.

[Sapphire Blue]

33. Do you realize that I am NOT a wall proponent?

I'm fed up w/blaming immigrants for lowered wages in this country; that was the point of the OP.

[Kickin_Donkey]

34. Maybe I'm dense, but in my defense ...

I didn't see a sarcasm marker next to your initial "build the wall" comment.

Anyway, glad you're not a wall proponent.

Peace

[Sapphire Blue]

36. The questions in the OP (I thought) made my point; that's what I get...

... for thinking.

My initial "Build the fucking wall" comment wasn't sarcasm; it was fed upism & pissed offism at the immigrant bashing that's been going on of late... half the time I feel like I've logged onto a fucking freeper site. Too many people just don't seem to get that it's the fucking corporate greed that is the fucking problem, not immigrants. :rant:

(Note: rant was not directed at you)

[rucky]

35. I guess we have to hit bottom before we admit to what the real problem is.

and you hit it on the head.

Capitalism is showing its fatal flaws. Building a wall to protect a "free market".

[U4ikLefty]

37. Build the "fucking walll"??? I'd love to see one of those...LOL

...but wouldn't Bu$h ban it because of indecency???

[Kostafarian]

38. What about all the animals

that will die?

[NMMNG]

39. Black people are taking our jobs and causing lower wages!!!

Never mind, that was a century ago.


Women are taking our jobs and causing lower wages!!!


Never mind, that was about fifty years ago.


I guess we'll have to wait until actual extraterrestrial aliens arrive to steal our job and cause lower wages. :shrug:

[Disturbed]

40. Instead of wasting more Taxpayer money on a wall...

the Govt. should collect money from Corps that hire Illegal Immigrants. Jail time for CEOs that hire enamss.

[NMMNG]

43. Jail them and fine them up the wazoo

They make enough money to be sure. Once they feel it in the pockets and lose their freedom they'll stop the practice. Next thing you know there won't be any more "illegal immigration" problem.

[Ganja Ninja]

41. By all means build the wall.

Build it on the Texas border not the Mexican border.:think:

[Sapphire Blue]

42. Too late... bush already crossed that border.