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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:20 PM
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Does anyone else think that we are worrying about McCain for no reason?
I honestly doubt that he can make it through the primaries. He is disliked by most repukes. The repukes that do like him dislike * and hate the ass kissing McCain has done on him lately. McCain is pro-illegal immigrant which is going to kill him with the base. The Religious Right dislike him.

Should we really be that worried about him?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:26 PM
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1. I think that he is a limp noodle....but what is the saying....
Keep your enemies close....we should never let him out of our site...people like him are like a case of syphylis....it's rotting away and you don't always see it...
(I am thinking of Al Capone) I have no idea why that popped in my head....

The coward wouldn't even protect his family.....when Rove attacked him....
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:02 AM
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13. Exactly! And far worse
He hugs up to and kisses the ass of the people who attacked them.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:26 PM
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2. The only way the right will fall in line behind McCain is if his opponent
has the last name of "Clinton."

But then again the Republican's are a loyal, top-down bunch. if religious right and freeper-like leaders realize that the only way the Repugs will win is with McCain, they will work for him and win over the constintuency and the rank and file will fall in line.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:58 PM
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9. I will second that emotion. Hill is the only way That war monger could be
elected. Even using those damn crooked BBV machines.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:29 PM
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3. You're absolutely right. He's become irrevelant.
Even if he doesn't know it yet.

Redstone
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:29 PM
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4. I'm somewhat concerned...
Edited on Fri May-26-06 10:30 PM by marmar
just because I know far too many people, quite a few moderates and moderately-liberals included, who say they like him 'cause he's a "straight shooter." I'm a little shocked at how much B.S. people will gobble up. (Naturally, when they make these assertions, I educate them on what a fraud he is...and point out that even if you think he's a straight shooter, he's still a conservative.)
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:30 PM
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5. absolutely
most people do not realize what a NEOCON he is

The general public believe he is a moderate

If the repukes were smart they would choose guliani/mccain

If the Democrates were smart they would choose Clark/Gore or Clark/Feingold in any order
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biscotti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:30 PM
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6. I think that the right is just
using him for the moment and he is too self absorbed to see it. He won't win the nomination.
















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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:34 PM
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7. OTOH, a lot of moderates like him. Don't ask me why
I'm not worried about McCain winning from the right, I'm worried about him winning from the center
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:39 PM
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8. I think if he could get out of the primary he would be a lock.
But I don't think he could get past the primary. Especially, since "the base" hates him.
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987654321 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:08 PM
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10. I don't fear McCain
I'm just pissed off that another hypocritical, two faced, arrogant and bullshit filled politician gets a free ride from the "news" media. The only way the "straight talker" could talk straight is if he bent over and faced his ass at whomever he is speaking with.
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Scoody Boo Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:21 PM
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11. McCain...
has never been pro-gun enough to win the Republican nod anyway. He jumped into his political grave with both feet when he signed on with Senator Kennedy a few weeks ago. As far as the Republicans are concerned, he may as well have a "D" by his name now.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 11:28 PM
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12. Limbaugh doesn't like him. So I guess he can't be "all" bad.



The few times I have tuned in to the Limbore Hour he's always been pissing and moaning about McCain. Probably moreso than Kennedy or Hillary. He must, therefore, have some redeeming values.


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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:17 AM
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14. McCain
the answer is no he doesn't
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:33 AM
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15. There's no way BushCo is going to support McCain and allow him
Edited on Sat May-27-06 12:47 AM by LaPera
to continue their full speed ahead corporate fascism as president...McCain is kissing Bush's ass and they are laughing at him...BushCo controls the electronic voting machines and you can bet it won't be McCain...They'll steal the 2008 election and keep the fascist empire in the family, someone they can trust, to keep it going...Like Jebbie...

Didn't you find it interesting W said Jeb would make an excellent president, just a couple of weeks ago...getting us ready for it...probably about a year from now, when things begin to just start heating up...

It does make sense...why would Bush at 30% be going full blast with his fascist agenda(he knows the machines are going to steal and keep the republican majority in the 2006 elections)...just to give the presidency to some republican, an outsider, who might feel the pressure to change a few things?

The fascist aren't just going to give it all up and put it the hands of the voters. And they control the machines.

They have nothing to lose by stealing the elections. No believes they can or will!!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:43 AM
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16. McLame is on self destruct.
The RW aare not going to endorse him. The Moderates will slowly find out that he is a phony. His schtick is wearing thin.

John McCain Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm Cain, Hypocrite

McCain hypocrisy:

The Bushification of John McCain

By Ari Melber, AlterNet. Posted November 15, 2005.

The bad blood between the two men has been infamous since 2000, when Bush's campaign lied about McCain's family and war service, and McCain told Bush to "get out of the gutter."

But during Bush's reelection in 2004, McCain strained to embrace his former rival -- literally. In their first joint appearance, they hugged dramatically before 6,000 soldiers at a Fort Lewis rally. Those events made for great campaign visuals. Yet while most Americans saw McCain's big heart, Republican leaders saw hungry ambition.

Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative magazine National Review, recently described that campaign bear hug as nothing but proof of "the senator's presidential ambitions." Lowry argues it's just part of McCain's scheme to get "the Right to stop loathing him." In targeted moves since the election, McCain has continued his Bushification by changing positions on conservative priorities like creationism, gay marriage and tax cuts.

As the costs of Hurricane Katrina mounted, McCain went on national television and told Chris Mathews the Bush tax cuts must be maintained. But McCain voted against those tax cuts.

In fact, he was one of only two Republicans to oppose Bush's signature 2001 tax cut. Given the surging costs of Katrina, Iraq and Medicare, there is no policy rationale for reversing his position now. The only rationale is political pandering. And that's exactly how some influential conservatives see it. Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, recently said that although McCain has "flip-flopped on a number of issues," he is still "anti-taxpayer" because "he's voted against every tax cut."

Yet the mainstream media is so attached to McCain's maverick image, most journalists didn't cover the tax reversal.


http://www.alternet.org/story/28266 /



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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 12:44 AM
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17. No way, that is one politician who is definately no threat..
even the conservatives, the majority of them dislike and distrust him...
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:06 AM
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18. I don't fear him
He's making a complete fool of himself and he seems completely oblivious to it.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 05:40 PM
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20. I think he wants to be the last man standing if * doesn't make it
'til 2009. He's angling to slide into that seat early and hold on to it for dear life.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 05:38 PM
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19. McCain Has The Nomination Sewn Up
I'm sorry that so many of you have trouble seeing it but McCain is a lock for the Republican nomination. He was back in 2004 as soon as he agreed to start hugging the chimp in public and backed the privatization of Social Security. It's just that simple. Everyone needs to become accustomed to this important reality and work to assure that the Democratic ticket is Kerry for president and Clinton for Vice President. Together, they would be, in a word, unstoppable.
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