Precisely one week ago, Mr. Pitt DID apologize, in a now locked thread...

[WiseButAngrySara]

WilliamPitt Wed May-17-06 04:01 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=1217985

On a personal note...

It would probably be a good thing for the health and welfare of this community for everyone to stop beating the shit out of each other over this Rove story. This goes for me, too. I just got into a snipe-fest in another thread, and immediately felt stupid about it.
.....

Those who have made this personal - with me, with each other - should stop.
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That's it for now. If I sound like a hypocrite for saying this, so be it. I'll take that beating standing up.

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On my personal note, I believe that there are some members of the DU community who owe Will Pitt an apology. They are demanding an apology from Mr. Pitt for rudeness when they have themselves repeatedly been more rude and intolerant of other's opinions than Mr. Pitt ever was. DU is quick to point out the hypocrisies of others. Some of us should take a long hard look at our own.

Let the flaming begin, before this is locked. I so needed to say this.

[blm]

1. WBAS - Blessed are the peacemakers.

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[AuntPatsy]

2. I agree, I saw that myself and yet the flaming goes on without

true merit...makes you wonder..

[Howardx]

3. i like will pitt's stuff

thats all i need, dont care about what anyone says

[Catherine Vincent]

4. Not good enough for 'em.

[WiseButAngrySara]

8. It's good enough for me! What do these people want anyway, blood?

I have wondered if there is a way to see if more new DU members have signed on since this flamefest began. Any way of checking that out? Or am I the only one with those suspicions?

[dogday]

14. Sounds remorseful to me

I felt that he was remorseful in that post....

[MrModerate]

5. I gotta say, that's a weird-ass apology . . .

And the Truthout/Leopold/Rove story is very, very strange. Hard to imagine that Leopold will emerge with any credibility left, -- yet "people" keep saying that there's rock-solid truth behind it.

Tres peculiar.

[MADem]

6. He said the beating should stop...on both sides

That's all well and good, but I didn't see "I'm sorry" in there.

That said, I have no strong opinion one way or another on his role in this, beyond the fact that he took advocacy for his 'journalist' to a new and unfortunate level. He certainly fanned the flames, but he didn't light the fire.

The guy with the byline is the at the nexus of all this. He really is the one who needs to do some 'splainin'...everything else is just bluster, distraction and noise.

[WiseButAngrySara]

11. How do you know that Leopold wasn't used like Hatfield and Rather

were? There sre so many similarities between Hatfield and :eopold that it is beyond uncanny! They were both probably selected by the Rove camp because of their lack of credibility. The reasoning being, well, they are telling the truth, but who would believe these people?

I started a thread on this several days ago, but it was promptly locked.

[MADem]

25. I don't know, but someone sure as hell does, and that's the author

If he got gamed, he needs to come clean. NOW. Not weeks from now. NOW.

Of course, he's looking at a third strike, here, seeing as he has pulled this "shoddy journalism" business twice before and been fired for it.

Three strikes and you're out...

I think he's praying for an indictment soon, so he can say "Right Church, Wrong Pew" but as time marches on, that's looking less and less likely. "Getting ahead of the news cycle" doesn't cut it, because the news cycle is sailing forward, covering miles like Lance Armstrong. There comes a point when thet turn of phrase should more accurately be termed "Making Shit Up Based on a Halfassed Guess and Maybe Some BS Fed to Me by Someone Who Pretended to be In the Know."

And that's what it looks like he did. He may have been fed some poop, but he ran with it without triple-checking. Sloppy of him, to be charitable about it, with a story this important. But hey, he wanted to be FIRST. And now, he's LAST....

[Catherine Vincent]

7. On a serious note, before this gets locked...

I think the apologies should be via pms.

[bettyellen]

13. oh i think some people want everything as public as possible

they exist only to bitch and moan here.

[dogday]

15. My Son Is in Iraq

Want to talk about bitch and moan... Now there is something I bitch and moan about....:hi:

[bettyellen]

18. you're right, i think some people delude themselves that they are a big

part of this, and it's the hugest thing in the blogasphere, and they're working to make it the biggest deal.
in the end... it'll get resolved in spite of them. the 24 thread vigil just an embarrassing footnote.

[RandomKoolzip]

9. That's an apology?!

Pretty damn vague. Doesn't sound like a retraction to me, either. Sounds more like "I know my farts stink. Too bad your face is right there at ass-level. Let's move on."

[greatauntoftriplets]

10. Please hand me...

the :popcorn: Got any :beer: to wash it down?

[RandomKoolzip]

12. You want some :poopcorn:?

BTW, I, personally, am far more upset about being duped than by being called names. It's not rudeness that galls me but duplicity.

[bettyellen]

16. then you should empathise with pitt and be pissed at leopold?

what galls me is that some of the consistently rudest people have built themselves a stage here in the town square and it's just embarrassing.
no one needs them to hash over this hourly, for weeks. it's pointless axe grinding and nothing more.
dan rather never had it so good.

[RandomKoolzip]

19. Oh no! Rudeness!!

Whatever will happen to Western Civilization?! My petunias!



I'm pissed at both. More pissed at Leopold, actually. And mighty pissed at those who would apply a rigorous set of ethical standards to their enemies yet play by a different set of rules for their friends.

[bettyellen]

24. was pitt ever in a position to know? or did he just believe?

i never assumed he KNEW anything. maybe that's why i'm not so pissed at him.
mildly annoyed, but that's because he serves canned beer and plays phish. okay, now i hate him too.
like i said, it's all personal, and like the phish revelation, an embarrassment.

[RandomKoolzip]

26. Hey, he and I are both Deadheads.

Phish I could take or leave (mostly leave). :evilgrin:

Honestly, I've always had a lot of respect for Pitt. He's a funny guy, I always liked his writing, and understood that he was doing important work that I'm too lazy/busy/stupid to do. Which is why I'm so angry that he's chosen to stick by this obvious load of crap, Leopold.

[etherealtruth]

17. Touche`

[MADem]

27. Here ya go!

[Sammy Pepys]

20. I probably do....

..and I will issue one when it's appropriate.

However, I do believe we are stilled owed some explanation of what happened here. I don'tthink that's such a terrible request.

[RandomKoolzip]

23. Leopold should reveal his sources.

If they fucked him (and us) over, they ought to be exposed.

[callous taoboy]

21. Hey, as Will himself typed one day:

This is politics- Bring a helmet.

[earth mom]

22. What I don't get is why people don't consider the source...

as in Rove and Bush & Co. Instead they want to kill the messenger. Rove and Bush & Co are as sneaky and underhanded as hell-we should all know this by now. The truth will emerge eventually and more than likely the outcome won't be good for Rove or Bush & Co.

[Moderator]

28. locking...

This is flamebait.