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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 09:48 AM Original message |
Does anyone doubt that certain G.I.'s are committing war crimes? |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. No. Jack Murtha has confirmed they are committing war crimes. |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
92. Murtha is swiftboating younger soldiers |
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Xeric (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. careful... |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 09:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Oh I'm trying to be careful. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. The walls "they" constructed are bowing. Soon they will break. |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I suppose you think the debunking of Macbeth's lies |
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Xeric (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. nice strawman you got there |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Remember, the truthiness of his story is more important then the details |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
79. Fake but accurate, right? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 08:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
74. Which is why I support compulsory civil service to rid us of hero worship. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well, the war itself is a war crime |
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jerry611 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. Every war has war crimes |
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ThsMchneKilsFascists (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
55. this isn't a war |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #55 |
73. Equal opportunity to do what? Like it or not...this is a war. nt |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. the occupation of Iraq is itself a war crime-- asking the question... |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Invading & occupying THIS continent was a war crime for that matter. |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. Name me one war which wasn't over territory |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
7. It would be extremely naive to think they're not... |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Yet the "support the troops, no matter what" mantra is still out there. |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Indeed, the American people are naive... |
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reichstag911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
26. That's because Americans... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 04:07 AM Response to Reply #8 |
69. Ah to paraphrase an old crusty poet |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, there are war crimes being committed. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
13. That's the point |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yet only the grunts will be punished, the commanders get a pass. |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Thank you for that |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #33 |
84. right it's not their asses on the front lines there |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
16. "many"? |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
17. Um, there mere presence in Iraq is a War Crime |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:34 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. BS! |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Breeze please read ALL of my post |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. MY SON DID NOT COMMIT A CRIME BY BEING STOP LOSSED!! |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #40 |
81. We're all just crazed butchers! |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. More... |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. So in the end who do you think |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. Summarizing your posts for the slow-witted... |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. No that's not quite my position |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 07:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Sorry for my misunderstanding. |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Of course, that's not what I said either |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 07:48 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Maybe after the trials over this neocon induced war are finished... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. United States of Canada and Jesusland. (I live in |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 05:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
71. My son is a criminal? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:45 AM Response to Reply #71 |
91. just a question? |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 10:38 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. He believed, as did Congress, |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. thanks for the explanation |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-27-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. I am very cynical of Congress |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-27-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #71 |
101. Why are so many so binary on this issue? |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
19. I don't doubt it for a moment |
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IselaB (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
20. You people are really getting on my nerves |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. The war is not just "nasty stuff" it is a crime. |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. You fell for it too huh? |
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IselaB (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Another hedge. No, it's not "ALL" the troops... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
66. "Contempt for the troops" -- speaking for myself personally, I |
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stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
83. Thank you, IselaB! |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
22. I am sure some are as it happens in every warzone |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
23. Americans can be extremely Barbaric |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Amen to that |
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peacebaby3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. And Amen to that. Graner came straight from being a prison guard on |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. You can thank the leadership for that. |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-27-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
102. Americans are as diverse as the stars in the sky! |
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peacebaby3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
29. Of course, there are some. The military doesn't brainwash you to hand out |
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Libby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
30. NO |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
31. It's happening everyday. |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
36. "The barbarities of war are seldom committed by abnormal men |
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Tom Bombadil (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I believe that the US military has committed war crimes, |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Understanding the cause of crimes |
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Tom Bombadil (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. My view is that |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Some join the service for economic reasons. |
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Tom Bombadil (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 04:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I can't disagree. |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. The vast majority of the Military are NOT White and Racist. |
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Tom Bombadil (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Conquest has always been |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 07:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. "the vast majority ARE white & racist".... |
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Tom Bombadil (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I was refering to the US but it could apply to other countries. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. The best source I could find is the Heritage Society.... |
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Tom Bombadil (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 04:00 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. I take your points |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 08:37 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Who said the US military is incapable of war crimes? |
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Tom Bombadil (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #72 |
100. The only soldiers |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #45 |
94. how many of those soldiers even know about the Iraqi culture? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
39. War crimes? Naah. Those 100,000 dead civilians all commited suicide. |
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pocket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
41. Those women and children at Falluja didn't napalm themselves |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
47. No doubt at all.... |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. US media covers up American war crimes in Iraq |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
90. Bullshit... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-24-06 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
54. Uhhhm. Technically, the Iraq war |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
59. The whole war is a war crime. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
63. Mad Dog Killers? |
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lies and propaganda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-25-06 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
64. I believe there are a lot of rapes we dont hear about. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 05:17 AM Response to Original message |
70. nor do i doubt they get orders to do things that are war crimes |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
75. anyone with an IQ over 20 would not be surprised about this |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
76. Some, yes.. 'Many'? No |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
77. I am in the Army Reserve... |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. I almost bought it. |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Sorry, I am just tired of the slander... |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #80 |
87. But you did say "Many" |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. In my opinion, there are many, not just a few. |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #89 |
93. What # qualifies as "many"? |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:32 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Well said |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:34 AM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Perhaps you didn't read my post correctly, I blamed the guilty, |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:38 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Ok, please see my post #87, it may explain the confusion |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
78. Oh sure these guys are committing war crimes |
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peacetheonlyway (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #78 |
95. most of them are teenagers with guns worse than killer bimbos |
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PublicRadioVet (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Actually, NG is specifically designed for combat |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-26-06 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
98. my opinion of this whole thread is |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-27-06 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
104. The normal distribution applies. |
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