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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:50 PM
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Jefferson will not be resigning.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:51 PM
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1. now Msnbc saying court docs released.--90.000$ in freeezer.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:56 PM
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3. Puts a new spin on the phrase "cold, hard cash!"
He's not helping the Party. He needs to step down.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:58 PM
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4. forget about helping the Party
he obviously wasn't concerned about that when he was taking the bribes in the first place. The state party should hold a congress and remove their endorsement. don't wait for him to act, boot him now.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:00 PM
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25. Just. D'accord.
All he's doing is trying to preserve himself, and doing nothing for the real message of the team.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:05 PM
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19. Well..
... it would be cold, but unless he wet it down, probably not hard :)

If this guy's dirty I hope he serves time. I'm sick to death of crooked politicians, and of white-collar crime going unpunished.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 03:54 PM
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2. well, pretty soon
he'll be residing in a nice comfortable bed, courtesy of Uncle Sam.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:01 PM
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5. He should behave just like DeLay did -- no resignation
unless he's indicted and even then, think about it first. Resigning would only attract MORE attention (if that's possible).
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:15 PM
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6. I disagree
The way I feel about it is if he's guilty, and he knows if he is or not, he should resign.

I would love nothing more than to be able to remove every corrupt politician from office and fill their seats with ones who will work for the good of the people.

For me this is not a partisan issue.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:20 PM
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9. In regards to removing every corrupt politician
you'd have to get rid off them all.

As long as there is government, the wrong men will rule. This is not a prediction. It’s an axiom.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:25 PM
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11. True enough
However, ridding our government of those who are foolish enough to keep the cash in their home freezer is a good place to begin. Don't you think?
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:34 PM
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12. I think that was a Brazen
declaration of "Yeah I'm taking money and I keep it in a icebox because I am cool. You think DeLay and Duke were cool enough to do that?"

That being said, he should resign but will probably not. When will DeLay be bunking in with Dukey? Besides never that is...
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:19 PM
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7. Resigning would put an end to this now.
He had better resign before the November elections. Who wants this to be a pertinent issue in November? Why should he put all other Democrats in jeapordy simply because he is stubborn and egotistical?

Can his ass now.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:02 PM
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18. Agreed -- if he resigns now and WE make a big deal out of it, good
Show how we handle our bad apples versus how they deal with theirs ...

And I was a horse's a** to suggest that ANY Dem behave like DeLay -- I take that one back completely!
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:40 AM
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31. Unless Jefferson can prove that the money in his freezer came to him
in the same way that God sent manna from heaven, then I do agree that he should resign.

But the problem is...what other Dem will be found guilty of some crime before November? We can't be stupid enough to believe that Jefferson is the only one. He is the only one that has been CAUGHT!

On C-Span's WJ this morning, it was pointed out that Rick Santorum and Harry Reid were the recipients of the greatest amount of cash from lobbyists to their campaign coffers.

So...what else is new?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:20 PM
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8. I have to disagree.
This guy should be forced to resign - his office should be flooded with emails, faxes, etc, demanding he step down. And the MORE publicity about THAT, the better.

That will send a message to Republicans that when one of our own is caught with his hand in the cookie jar, he gets booted out - no excuses made for his behaviour - OUT!

As long as he stays, it gives the other side the opportunity (which they will no doubt use to their advantage) to say, "See, the Dem politicians are corrupt, too, so stop saying it's only the Republicans."

Sorry, but suggesting that any Democrat behave 'just like DeLay did' is not acceptable.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:22 PM
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10. You nailed it. I hate like heck to give up another Dem, but he really does
need to go, no doubt about it and sadly, the Dems need to devour his ass whole.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:21 PM
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21. If handled properly, this could be one of those ...
... lemons into lemonaide situations.

The Dems should make a BIG DEAL about calling for Jefferson's resignation IMMEDIATELY. Publicize the fact that WE do not allow corruption to go unchecked in our own party.

The Repubs would have no plausible response, other than: "Look how the Democrats turn on their own." And the immediate answer from our side would be, "When we find a corrupt official in our midst, you are DAMNED REAL we turn on them - and turf them out of office, and out of our party."

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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:14 AM
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30. Agreed, but then we'd have to have an organized group of leaders driving
that message home, getting it echoed in the news media, etc etc.*sigh*
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:00 PM
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17. Exactly.
:thumbsup:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:41 PM
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13. Democrats if they want to make ethics a real issue must pressure him
to resign.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:42 PM
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14. He should resign.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:43 PM
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15. Terrible.
He really should resign. They've got the video. It'll be played over and over by the Repub pundits, with the insinuation that "Democrats are corrupt, too!"

Sad. He could have resigned and ended this saga...instead, it's going to played, played, and replayed. :(
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:37 PM
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23. Does this sound like Marion Barry all over again?
They had him on tape too...
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:57 PM
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16. If he is guilty, then he is a selfish jackass for not resigning
immediately. They've got him on tape receiving a package and they've got the money. What kind of defense could he possibly mount?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:09 PM
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20. he's GOT the bulletproof excuse....
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:54 PM
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22. I heard it reported
Edited on Mon May-22-06 06:57 PM by NI4NI
on Eye ON Washington, Sunday that the House Ethics committee after more than a year will now be holding sessions soon because 2 Dems are being investigated, and also because Duke and Delay are no longer members. Anyone else hear that?
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:05 PM
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26. Did that committee ever investigate or at least make a statement about
Duke Cunningham? Where, after all, millions in bribery happened and much more in contracts were dealt out... not that any of this absolves Jefferson, but, did these guys even at least censure Duke after the fact?
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:08 PM
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29. Not that I'm aware of,
but they will be gung ho now, since the House 'Licans recently got their so called lobbyist reform bill past and have Jefferson to make an example of.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 08:39 PM
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24. He's an idiot.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:08 PM
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27. This cat should resign.
He's AA and he should know better.
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carolinalady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:08 PM
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28. He should resign if he is guilty and it pretty much looks that way.
I really can not believe the people on DU who have such a double standard. Hell, we did not have as much hard evidence with Delay and everyone was all over that. I do not respect a double standard no matter where it comes from. Same with Kennedy. He was loaded, yet the excuses came fast and furious. I can only think that this attitude is coming from those who have lived but a short time on this earth and have a lot of living and learning yet to do.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:42 AM
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32. Agreed, no breaks for corrupt Democrats.
We should make an example of him, of course he's innocent until proven otherwise, but I have no sympathy for him if he's guilty.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 07:45 AM
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33. For the good of the party, he should resign.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 08:47 AM
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34. I want to know more
Al Sharpton was on Hardball last night and said "something if fishy" about this case - that they knew of this ONE YEAR ago - and they're just now bringing charges - and why the raid now.

If he's guilty - he deserves what he gets, but I want to hear his side.
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