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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:12 PM
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German cannibal returns to courtroom
German cannibal returns to courtroom
44-year-old could face stiffer sentence for killing, eating willing victim

Updated: 1:21 p.m. ET Jan. 12, 2006

FRANKFURT - A convicted German cannibal returned to court on Thursday for a retrial to determine if his killing and eating of a willing victim amounted to murder.

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In a “slaughter room” fitted out with butcher’s bench, meat hook and cage, Meiwes severed Brandt’s penis and they both tried to eat it.

“Due to the consistency of the penis, this did not succeed, either raw or fried,” Koehler said.

When Brandt fell unconscious, Meiwes slit his throat, pulled out his organs and chopped off his head. The next day, he froze portions of his flesh, eating some 44 pounds of it over following months.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10801473/
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:14 PM
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1. Why?........
:puke:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:02 PM
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20. horror films had fuelled Armin Meiwes' childhood

Mr Meiwes appeared relaxed before the opening of his trial

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3286721.stm


A man accused of killing, dissecting and eating another man has gone on trial in central Germany.

The court heard how horror films had fuelled Armin Meiwes' childhood fantasies of eating school friends.

The 41-year-old computer technician is charged with murder, even though the victim allegedly volunteered for his fate by replying to an internet advert.

The gruesome incident was all captured on camcorder and the footage is expected to form part of the evidence
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:28 PM
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2. zey had problems viss ze cherman sausage?
sorry sorry, my humor is in really BAD TASTE

HELP I CAN'T STOP

They should just live and let liver.

argh.

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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:29 PM
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3. HAHAHAHA
:) all in bad taste
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:30 PM
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4. apparently he isn't eating well in prison...
"In a dark suit, and thinner than at his first trial, 44-year-old Meiwes listened again to prosecutor Marcus Koehler’s description of his crime. "

bwahahahah

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:36 PM
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5. Probably went Veggie
:rofl:////
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 03:54 PM
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12. Oddly, Dahmer got really FAT in prison ...
:shrug:
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:44 PM
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6. Fortunately, this sort of thing is very RARE
;)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:55 PM
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7. I really hope that he is the subject of Werner Herzog's next film
A boy can dream, can't he?
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 02:58 PM
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8. There IS a movie:
From the same article:

Like fictional cannibal Hannibal Lecter, Meiwes has become the subject of a film. “Butterfly” is due for release in Germany in March.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 03:41 PM
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10. Thanks for the heads up, but I still think that Herzog should also...
make a film. Miewes is that type of obsessive Herzog protagonist.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 03:31 PM
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9. The depravity is simply overwhelming.
On both of their parts. Of course, the one is a killer while the other a deranged victim. How interesting that this modern "civilized" society in the West can lead to cannibalism.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:07 PM
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15. depraved and deranged
I think one of them was suicidal for sure. Not sure why worrying about how one croaks in a suicide is any more or less depraved or deranged than any other form of suicide, and there are lots of suicides the world over, not just in modern "civilized" societies in the West.

I have a problem with your comment though. What were you trying to say? That Germans are secret cannibals and barbarians with a thin veneer of humanity over their cannibalistic urges? That's silly.

No. Some people are batshit crazy and it's wrong to generalize to an entire culture based on that, unless you're willing to say the same thing about Americans because of John Wayne Gacey and Jeffrey Dahmer, or people who fling themselves into oncoming rush hour traffic or off a tall bridge or by eating too many viagras or whatever.

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:53 PM
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19. I see...
I was being "deliberately provocative." No, one shouldn't generalize too much. But I do think that the existing "Western culture" of material pursuit above all else is feeding a festering emotional illness in many. Look at Iraq, what is being done to the Iraqi people. There's little veneer of civility there, other than that most of the killing is done from an impersonal distance. Yes, the veneer is thinner than most think.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:15 PM
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23. completely agree with you there
that veneer is pretty thin over all of us - and it doesn't take a lot to expose it.

People who believe through fear or experience or depression that life is inherently unfair probably are a little closer to the tipping point than others. Add to that our creative ability to ideate almost anything, and absurd ideas like cannibalism and auto-cannibalism take hold just as easily as the idea of jumping from bridges.

It is unsettling though - some days I wonder how many normal looking people driving down the road next to you are really all the way out there. Probably a lot more than we'd like to admit.


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FooFootheSnoo Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 03:46 PM
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11. that's disgusting
Why did the victim agree to this? And try to eat his own penis with the other guy? It's so disgusting and twisted. I hate to hear about stuff like this. It bothers me. It really, really bothers me. I'll probably have nightmares.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 03:57 PM
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13. Who would be stupid enough
to allow their member to be dismembered, and not go to the hospital or have made some kind of 'aftercare' plans made beforehand ?

That's kind of a MAJOR blood loss dude experienced ... ummmm, DUH?

I think he should be a Darwin Award Nominee.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:02 PM
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14. where's matcom?!?!?!
they both tried to eat the guys PENIS?

:puke:
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:12 PM
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16. could have read that differently
where IS matcom? is there a correlation?

I'm off to alert the media.

I would suppose that one could have thinly sliced it, breaded it and pan-fried and served with a shallot and sherry reduction, or else some ranch dressing, since there ain't much else you CAN do with gristle.

-H. Lecter.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 04:23 PM
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17. lol
alert the media or the mods?

on matcoms behalf: ''his penis!''
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RaRa Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:09 PM
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21. That comment is just plain stupid. n/t
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 05:10 PM
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22. What do you mean by that?
This sort of thing happens in Africa all the time, but the MSM never reports on African atrocities, so you don't hear about it.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 06:30 PM
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24. Ummm... Idi Amin was white?
:eyes:
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 07:52 PM
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25. That's hilarious. You're a funny dude!
Oh, wait, you're serious?
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