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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:36 PM
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Couple Arrested For Asking For Directions

Couple Arrested For Asking For Directions

BALTIMORE -- Baltimore City police arrested a Virginia couple over the weekend after they asked an officer for directions.

WBAL-TV 11 News I-Team reporter David Collins said Joshua Kelly and Llara Brook, of Chantilly, Va., got lost leaving an Orioles game on Saturday. Collins reported a city officer arrested them for trespassing on a public street while they were asking for directions .

"In jail for eight hours -- sleeping on a concrete floor next to a toilet," Kelly said.

"It was a nightmare," Brook said. "I was in there thinking I was just dreaming and waiting to wake up."

more with video
http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/9229472/detail.html
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:37 PM
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1. how do you trespass on a public street?
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:38 PM
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3. By definition, that sounds impossible.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:40 PM
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7. release with no charges filed
obviously a bullshit charge from the get-go. :wtf:

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:19 PM
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28. The Baltimore Sun said it was a street in a public housing
Edited on Thu May-18-06 03:21 PM by pnwmom
project. (Article below.) I don't know if that makes any difference.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:37 PM
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2. Bizarre
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:39 PM
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4. I smell a lawsuit
Cha-CHING!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:46 PM
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13. A well-deserved one!!! Those kids were terrorized by the cops that
Edited on Thu May-18-06 02:48 PM by BrklynLiberal
stopped them, even if they actually did run a stop sign.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:39 PM
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5. Man! Those Baltimore City police are TOUGH!!!
I hope I never get lost there! :scared:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:39 PM
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6. That is just horrible!!
Trespassing on a city street?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:41 PM
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9. The guys parents are cops in PA.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:40 PM
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8. Sounds like a scene...
From a Jon Waters movie.
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godhatesrepublicans Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:42 PM
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10. Well as a Baltimore resident, I say thank goodness the police are...
..finally cracking down. Damn tourists, getting in the way and messing up our proud tradition of shooting each other to the tune of 300+ murders a year. I hope that officer gets a medal! ;-)
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:44 PM
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11. The only thing I can see why this happened is the driver...
of the vehicle ran a stop sign (and said it was no big deal). Running a stop sign is a very big deal, that is how innocent people get killed. How they got arrested for trespassing on a public street is beyond me, it doesn't even make sense.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:09 PM
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22. If you read the whole article, it doesn't appear to be about the
stop sign at all. When the young man said it was no big deal, I think he meant that the officer wasn't treating that as a big deal. (There is no mention of him even issuing a ticket.) What the officer did make a big deal out of was refusing to give the lost couple directions -- even to the point when the officer intervened and prevented a second officer in a different patrol car from offering directions!

And both of the girls parents are police officers, so I would think they know how to act around the police.

Reading the whole article, it sounded like the only big deal here was at least one officer's out-sized EGO.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:20 PM
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29. I did read the whole article and the driver said he just...
wanted to pay the fine for running a stop sign and go home. That is why I am assuming he thought running a stop sign is no big deal. I am not condoning the police officers actions but I think there may be more to the story than we are hearing right now. I know some people think they can get away with anything because a relative is a police officer.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:44 PM
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12. i read the whole article and it seems awfully strange and the lady
they asked for help sounds like a nasty piece of work. Is that a fancy schmancy section of town?
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The Deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:46 PM
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14. Honey?
I don't think we'll be visiting the Maryland side of the Chesapeake after all this Summer...
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godhatesrepublicans Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:02 PM
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18. Nope Cherry Hill is the slummy-est slum in Slumberg.
The cop's behavior was pretty typical around here. We don't have the best and brightest in the Baltimore PD. We do have as a provable fact the worst driving cops in the nation. we get at least 2-3 cops killed a year in traffic accidents that they cause themselves. One year it was 5.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:15 PM
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25. fancy?
No, Cherry Hill is more of a "don't stop your car if you have to drive through or you'll get shot at."

And actually it's pretty easy to get arrested down there if you're white because the assumption is anybody white is only there to buy drugs. That may have been what the cop thought.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:16 PM
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26. No, it's a public housing, drug dealing section of town.
I just found that out in the Baltimore Sun article below.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:48 PM
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15. We sometimes go there to watch a game, it's easy to get lost.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 02:57 PM
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16. The cops are going nuts again like they did in the 60's. eom
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:05 PM
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20. I love Baltimore ...
...I've also spent an inordinate amount of time lost there. I guess I'm lucky I haven't been abused by the local police (?)
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HonorTheConstitution Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:01 PM
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17. The Gestapo is protecting you - Enjoy the ballgame
At least some of our Executive branch is going overboard! If this story is true I feel with this folks:

This happened to me 9 years ago in Seattle. Took a higway exit too early (was dark already), did not see the 25 mph sign behind a tree (because I was speeding with 35) and got pulled over within a second. Guess I was stupid, obviously a tourist trap. I was lucky: only 160$ fine and no prison. And after the ticket I got directions back to the highway! Makes you visiting a city right away again. But hey. Verizon and At&T is fighting terrorism for us, so lets the police make sure that people can enjoy the ballgame.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 04:46 PM
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37. Hi HonorTheConstitution!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:03 PM
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19. Storm Troopers.....
Homeland security has been training them well.....
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:06 PM
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21. Y'all trying to lure more tourists there, or what?
Sounds absolutely fucking charming.

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godhatesrepublicans Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:10 PM
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23. our new motto. "BALTIMORE; STAY THE @#%& HOME!!!"
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 04:56 PM
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38. Hey, I thought that was
New Jersey's official slogan! :evilgrin:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 06:10 PM
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39. "Welcome Wagon. Paddy Wagon.
Same Difference!"
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:14 PM
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24. Baltimore Sun offers more details. Everything murkier.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:26 PM
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31. someone is lying, it looks like the cop has changed the story
or at least added some details to it.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 04:07 PM
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35. Be interesting to see if "grabbing the pen" was in the original report.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:30 PM
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32. "Running stop signs" Easiest Probable Cause in the book
Out-of-state car, in neighbourhood known for atracting drug traffic, Pull 'em over and cite them for not coming to a full stop and take it from there.

Betcha McCheech, the drug-dawg gave his nose a good work-out going over their car in the impound lot...
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:16 PM
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27. Baltimore cops are tools.
Unfortunately most residents of Lord Baltimore's city are scary as hell too. Those cops have a shitty job in a shitty city, but after living there and dealing with those cops, I don't sympathize in the least.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:24 PM
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30. Well at least their Orioles won 11-1

so their day was not a *complete* disaster.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 03:37 PM
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33. I have been in that part of Baltimore. I still get lost trying to get to
295 or 95 South from 83 South (Yeah I know I should just go around the Baltimore Beltway) and I been traveling through there for 25 years. Granted, I am not the best navigator but Baltimore has some atrocious and confusing signage. Not to mention that it sounds as if they also do a lousy job of training their cops.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 04:01 PM
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34. Yeah, I know what you mean
Every time I get to know a road they build a stadium over it.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 04:07 PM
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36. Huh? Baltimore drivers *invented* stop-sign running
or, at the very least, raised it to an art form.

We used to call it a "Baltimore stop": see stop sign, slow down to maybe 15 or 20 mph, keep on going straight through. Once my school bus was pulled over for just this very thing (in Baltimore County, not City).

Moral; If there's anyplace where running a stop sign "isn't a big deal", it's Charm City. So what the Sam Hill was really going on? :eyes:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 07:35 PM
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40. Some rogue cops on a power trip?
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