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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:39 PM
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Joe Klein: "Conyers and Rangel are embarrassments"
Joke's crossed all the way over. With this, Time's "most liberal commentator" would be hard pressed to convince me he isn't working for the RNC. :grr:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605150004

Summary: Time columnist Joe Klein -- the magazine's "most liberal commentator" -- continued a pattern of attacking Democrats, the "Democratic left," and liberals. While purportedly critical of White House senior adviser Karl Rove, who he said will launch "another nefarious" campaign against Democrats in the run-up to the 2006 elections, Klein argued that Rove will "be aided by those on the noisome left" and singled out three prominent African-American House Democrats as particularly susceptible to such attacks.
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From Klein's column, titled "Setting Up Easy Targets for Karl Rove":
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The inevitability of race as a subliminal issue in the campaign became obvious as I watched House minority leader Nancy Pelosi, the personification of fluttery uncertainty, trying to defend Representative John Conyers on Meet the Press a few weeks ago. Conyers will be chairman of the Judiciary Committee if the Democrats win control of the House in November, and he has already threatened impeachment hearings against President Bush. This is one of the few scenarios that might rouse the demoralized Republican base from its torpor. It is also likely to alienate independents, who are sick of the hyperpartisanship in Washington and will be less likely to vote for Democrats if the party is emphasizing witch hunts instead of substantive policies. But the ugly truth is that Conyers is a twofer: in addition to being foolishly incendiary, he is an African American of a certain age and ideology, easily stereotyped by Republicans. He is one of the ancient band of left-liberals who grew up in the angry hothouse of inner-city, racial-preference politics in the 1960s, a group "more likely to cry 'racism' and 'victimization' than the new generation of black politicians," a member of the Congressional Black Caucus told me.
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Rangel would be one of the most powerful Democrats in the new Congress, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. He is regarded as more mainstream than Conyers, well versed in tax and entitlement policies, but he has had an unfortunate tendency to shoot off his mouth in the past......

Conyers and Rangel are embarrassments, but there is nothing the Democrats can do about them -- and they are certainly no more objectionable than any number of right-wing extremists who fester in Congress.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200605150004

Conyers is a liability because Republinuts can stereotype him, says Joke Line, who then proceeds to STEREOTYPE him. :grr:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:41 PM
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1. Joke Klein as usually, takes the Rove line and runs with it proudly.
He should be referred to as Joe "KKKlein".
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:45 PM
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3. He refers to racial politics of the 60's as a bad thing. I am stunned.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:55 PM
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11. close...make it Joke Lyin'
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:45 PM
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2. Same shit Rove used during the 2004
election.. I have said we are going to have to get down and dirty to run against these raging republicans... We are going to have to give as good as we get and we can do it... They just don't know how angry we are....

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:48 PM
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7. So easily he carries out Rove's plan: Investigations are "witch hunts"
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:46 PM
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4. Time Warner's fair haired boy
Edited on Mon May-15-06 06:50 PM by acmejack
What more needs to be said?

edit wrong corporation, monopolies, they are so much the same....

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:46 PM
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5. Ocelot: "Joe Klein is an embarrassment."
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:48 PM
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6. Says something about "Time" if Klein is indeed "the most liberal"
Edited on Mon May-15-06 07:09 PM by robbedvoter
Funny how he picked two black men too...Some noticed that painting a target of these two is the new "Willie Horton" for this election. Subliminable...
Joke Line - a keeper!
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:49 PM
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8. Three- I didn't snip the whole thing. He piles on Hastings, too.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:51 PM
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10. I nominated "Fat Bastard and the 400 million" for the "Willie Horton
Award." Klein cannot have it.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 06:50 PM
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9. BlooInBloo: Joe Klein can suck my BOING after he gets.....
... his face outta his own ZONK, but at the same time he licks up karl rove's BAM!


Fuck Joe Klein.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:02 PM
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12. He really pisses me off
:grr:

What an asshole!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:04 PM
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13. A member of the Congressional Black Caucus is Klein's confidant? Which
CBC member would say that Rangel and Conyers are of an "ancient band of left-liberals"?

Klein is a lying sack of shit.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:10 PM
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14. Watts? back when?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:48 PM
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16. Harold Ford would be my guess, if a CBC member actually said it.
I doubt if Rangel, Conyers and Hastings were characterized like that by another member. It came off as a put down and I don't see a junior member picking fights with respected members.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:26 PM
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15. Digby lays into him over this-
Ain't Misbehavin'
by digby

In our regular Joe Klein is an idiot report, please find Joe decrying Karl Rove's plan to use racism to win the election in the fall by highlighting the potential horror of negroes with subpeona power --- and then decrying the horror of negroes with subpoena power.

In fairness, Klein argues that Democrats should not have have allowed these chairmen to be chairmen because they are tainted by being too hot-headed and indiscrete and well ... inappropriate. They are more of those horrible 60's liberals, who "cry" victimization and racism at the drop of a hat.

Why oh why can't all these blacks be more like that nice Condi Rice who is so ladylike and listens to classical music and knows how to act at a funeral??? Until Democrats can find some of those, they really need to put these bad negroes on the back bench and get some good, solid white centrists to chair committees.

........MORE......(it's good)

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_digbysblog_archive.html#114773323007963325
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:52 PM
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17. Reach Around Rove will be busy tossing salad.
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