Byron York: REPORTS OF ROVE'S INDICTMENT ARE GREATLY...

[sabra]

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjQ4MzljZjIzYTFhNGY2NTIzMWY0MTRlZTI0MDEyYzM=


REPORTS OF ROVE'S INDICTMENT ARE GREATLY...

You haven't heard about it, but many reporters spent part of their weekend making calls to check out a report on a left-wing website, truthout.org , that Karl Rove has been indicted in the CIA leak investigation. The report, by someone named Jason Leopold, was posted yesterday and was headlined, "Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators."

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The report came out of the blue on Saturday. Jason Leopold, who has written a memoir, entitled News Junkie, in which, according to the book's promotional material, he portrays himself as a writer "whose addictive tendencies led him from a life of drug abuse and petty crime to become an award-winning investigative journalist," has written wildly unreliable reports about the CIA leak affair before. But still, reporters of every stripe felt they had to check this one out.

So did I. I talked with Rove defense spokesman Mark Corallo, who told me the story was completely baseless. Part of our conversation:


Did Patrick Fitzgerald come to Patton Boggs for 15 hours Friday?
No.
Did he come to Patton Boggs for any period of time Friday?
No.
Did he meet anywhere else with Karl Rove's representatives?
No.
Did he communicate in any way with Karl Rove's representatives?
No.
Did he inform Rove or Rove's representatives that Rove had been indicted?
No.


So there seems to be nothing to the story, certainly nothing which any other reporter has seen fit to report. Which raises a question: What is going on here? The journalists who checked out the story, quite properly, did not repeat Leopold's bad information. But for some media blogger out there, it might be reasonable to ask: Where are these reports coming from?

I don't care for York, and it seems like the MSM is trying to figure out if they got scooped...

[babylonsister]

1. I hope Byron York has to eat his words; can't stand the guy. nt

[Jack Rabbit]

8. I'll bring the catsup. You bring the salt and pepper.

!!

[nolies32fouettes]

37. me too!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1190427

[rodeodance]

2. and so it has begun! (Left blogs getting hit on the Jason story)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. This isn't much of a "hit", IMHO. Pretty laughable, if you ask me.

[linazelle]

3. The National Review....???

Now THAT'S a credible source. :rofl:

[insane_cratic_gal]

4. For pete sake and all that is corrupted can we not advocate

RWinger magazine's on DU's site as proof?

It's a know RW Rag

It's like limpballs telling you Rove's 16 sweet and innocent,

First off if anyone would do a simple google search, you'd see that he spoke to Rove's PR guy!!!!

PR are suppose to spin the story, shit Rove was probably in the room with him

OF COURSE he's going to say NO

Edited to say..

STOP IT STOP IT... get ahold of yourselves. :spank:

[sabra]

6. I take this as the RW feeling the heat of the Leopold report

not as any type of proof.

[insane_cratic_gal]

13. It's exactly what it is. Another way of controlling the spin

They are going to keep a lid on this for as long as they can.

Of course he's going to say no


Does that mean Jason is legit? I have no proof to say he is or isn't, but just because Rove's PR guy says No.. does not sell me that Fitz hasn't indeed spent some time with Luskin handing out the indictment charges.

[worldgonekrazy]

29. Its still valid to post

If nothing else it demonstrates that Leopold's story has resonated beyond DU and the liberal blogosphere. That alone is an interesting bit of information.

[rodeodance]

7. another DU post about this here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1189621

[NYC]

12. Why didn't he ask Patton Boggs

instead of asking Rove's PR man? You have an excellent point.

[demobabe]

23. Looks like Lusin is referring them to the PR guy

TalkLeft called Luskin yesterday, got irate with her and told her to call the PR guy.

[NYC]

24. I don't really know what to make of that.

Should the law office have to answer a lot of questions? Actually, I would think so.

[jumpoffdaplanet]

5. They are working SO hard to deny it

If it wasn't true, it would be ignored to the nth degree.

Instead there's so many articles being written, on a sunday when most people are busy doing other things.

Every article convinces me it will happen this week.

[racaulk]

9. York is a dumb ass.

He confirmed the story by asking Rove's defense spokesman????

What exactly was he supposed to say? "Yes, it's true! It's all true!"??? Please, of course he's going to deny it! Those pigs aren't going to say squat to the media until Fitzgerald makes his announcement. It looks like our "liberal" media is trying to spin the story into the ground before it even gets footing.

[demobabe]

26. York is an extreme asshole

But we can't just assume any of these people are lying - just as we can't assume they're necessarily telling the truth.

Given the chance, York doesn't miss an opportunity to make left wing sources look like idiots.

But this doesn't mean Leopold's article is accurate, either.

Basically, we know nothing. Still.

[ClusterFreak]

10. "Saddam Hussein sought to acquire significant quantities of uranium....

...from Africa".

Well Byron old boy, I thought as long as we were setting things straight...remember this bold-faced claim?

[C_U_L8R]

11. The MSM was stirred up ALL WEEK about indictments

It's not Leopold acting alone... everyone was worked up.
Tweety was salivating.... saying on-air that
if an indictment comes down Friday then he'd
postpone the taping of his Sunday show
and likely work all weekend.

Perhaps they had good reason to be excited.. perhaps not.
We'll see ...all in good time.
And lets stop blaming each other... that's exactly
the kind of confusion KKarl is trying to orchestrate
(and he does it very well)

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Some of you folks are really stretching to find some reason....

...to invalidate Leopold's story on Rove's indictment.

Why is a rightwing site being used to raise questions about this story?

Makes no sense to me.

[sabra]

17. I took it as York being pissed that fact that he may gotten scooped.

[rodeodance]

15. Here is York's email address:

[e-mail]

[linazelle]

18. For what purpose would his email be provided? National Review

is the equivalent of toilet paper.

[rodeodance]

20. you know, I was wondering that myself. I tried to think of a response to

his post, but then figured it was not worth it. umm..

[Clark2008]

22. Actually, toilet paper has a use.

eom

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

16. I Have An Immediate Relative That Works Directly In The Newsroom For One

of the big networks. He said they spent all last night there trying to verify the story but couldn't find any additional corroboration, and that they had concerns because some of their own sources had said some of the info in the T.O. article had been inaccurate.

I think the networks are in complete chaos over this because they don't want to be outscooped but have to be able to confirm before they can run with the story themselves. I think they are panicking to a degree and doing whatever fact checking they can, but are so in disarray over this story since Truthout has the exclusive.

I for one believe T.O. completely, and I told my relative that. But the networks definitely are in scramble mode right now trying to verify however they can. Isn't working out for them so far, but I'm thinking it'll allllll be good in just a few short days. :)

[rodeodance]

19. I can understand that: To be 'dan rathered" would be tragic!

[Kagemusha]

27. Leopold clearly said some squishy things about the legal technicalities

even if he's correct on the big parts he still fumbled with the nitty gritty, and that's gotta scare mainstream media people. And justly so.

There's not a hell of a lot they can do about it, either. They've gotta wait just like us.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

30. IMHO, the MSM has forgotten how to develop sources....

...because their "stories" have been handed to them by the rightwing for the last couple of decades. Additionally, they have learned what happens to journalists in the MSM if they step out of line.

Now, the MSM is being scooped by eager, hardworking journalists running blogs and alternative media sites. And the new breed of journalist is being rewarded by a rapidly growing patronage of readers starved for REAL news.

[speedoo]

40. Absolutely true.

Freakin' MSM is just about worthless anymore. What has happened to the NY Times is a tragedy. And the Washington Post... yeccchhhh.

[PerceptionManagement]

21. Sometimes, you are just forced to accept reality based community, Byron.

[TexasLawyer]

25. MSNBC’s Shuster: ‘I Am Convinced Karl Rove Will Be Indicted’

Lots of people think this indictment is coming-- not just "bloggers". Plus Rove is just guilty as hell-- is it so far-fetched that the law would actually catch up with this mofo?


MSNBC’s Shuster: ‘I Am Convinced Karl Rove Will Be Indicted’



Tonight on Countdown with Keith Olbermann, MSNBC reporter David Shuster said he was “convinced that Karl Rove will, in fact, be indicted.” He made three points to support his position:

1. Rove wouldn’t have testified for the 5th time unless he believed it was the only way he could avoid indictment. At this point, according to Shuster, the burden is on Rove to stop it.

2. It’s been 13 days since Rove testified and he has not heard that he is clear. Lawyers Shuster talked to say that if Rove would have gotten himself out of the jam, he would have heard by now.

3. Rove is referred to in the Libby indictment as “Official A.” According to Schuster, every time Fitzgerald has named somebody as “Official A” that person has been indicted.

Shuster also says Rove’s lawyers expect a decision from Fitzgerald within the next two weeks.

Transcript:

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Posted by Think Progress May 8, 2006 8:48 pm
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http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/08/shuster-convinced/

[symbolman]

38. And I believe every word of this

This has been around for a long time, from Olbermann to Wonkette, for Leopold to claim he has a "scoop" is ridiculous, he's gussied up this basic information known by all, BUT then went WAAAAAYYYY out on a limb by saying it HAS HAPPENED...

Hey folks, take a little stroll over to DailyKos and read what they've been writing about this Leopold character - he goes Way back, lots of keen info there..

But now I'm a COMMIE for having suggested that you view OTHER SOURCES (not directed at you Tex), I've only been fighting the right for 5 years now and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, won awards, been singled out by Michael Moore, etc.. but that was all a sham, actually I've just been waiting for the time to STRIKE and actually DISAGREE with people who appear to be making as much sense as one of the most bizzarre Monty Python sketches..

Yeah, I'm a GOP Troll, who's only Mortgaged his home and been sued by Michael Savage for a Half a Million bucks.

Leopold is a mental case, and you're all being Punk'd, (so is Will for that Matter, even tho he's pissed as hell as me now) just an opinion, but as a Vietnam era veteran I think I've earned the right to free speech.

Like I said Tex, none of this is directed at you, thanks for posting this info, very important - people need to realize this info has been around in the MSM for nearly a MONTH.. Leopold is "scooping" nothing, even a broken clock is right twice a day..

Oh, and OUTING HIS SOURCES? Real class act, he does that ALL THE TIME, look him up on the web, he's nearly got one guy jailed and another kicked out of the military and could care less, besides, it will be HIS EXCUSE.. if you read his history it's ALWAYS someone ELSES fault..

I really wouldn't be surprised if he blamed Will Pitt, and I'm not kidding, that's how nuts this guy is..

[lolly]

28. Why would they deny it

If it's true? It seems that it would just come out anyway--what would 2 more days of the press not knowing mean?

Are they trying to "Dan Rather" us--or Leopold--with falsely planted stories?

But then what would be the point of that? The Dan Rather stuff apparently innoculated Shrub from AWOL charges--but this wouldn't innoculate anybody from anything. If Fitz is or isn't going to indict, it's not going to be because of any true or false news stories.

So, I admit--I'm really befuddled here. WTH? :shrug:

[11cents]

32. Rove will be indicted...

...and the Jason Leopold story is probably crap. These two propositions are not contradictory.

[LSK]

35. why?? cuz Rove controls the media

And he wanted one last peaceful weekend.

[Catrina]

33. National Review featured disgraced blogger Ben Domenech, exposed

exposed as a plagiarizer by 'liberal' blogs!! As I recall, National Review scrubbed all his articles from their site, and the Washington Post had to fire him two days after hiring him, without, apparently, doing much of a background check. So much for National Review's and the WAPO's investigative skills.

Bill Israel, friend of Karl Rove, agrees with Schuster also. He said in an article last week for Editor & Publisher, that his old friend Karl 'may be indicted' after having assured everyone that he was not a target of the investigation. Israel goes on to bemoan the fall of his 'brilliant friend' and admonishes the media for not being more aggressive in their pursuit of facts.

Iow, he's blaming the media who were threatened by his old friend, for letting his friend get into this mess.

The point is that the consensus of opinion, since we all know Rove lied and obstructed the investigation, is that he will be indicted.

I don't doubt Jason Leopold's story, nor his sources. And I don't doubt Schuster or Israel either. But Israel said something in his article about Rove's technique's that made me worry that Karl Rove may have made a deal which might have put off an indictment that was actually filed. Israel said that Karl would raise expectations of wrong doing so that when the wrong doing was actually made public, it would seem like nothing compared to what was originally thought.

I'm just worried that Rove could have lied to his friend, Israel and to the sources Jason used, or lied by omission if he has made a deal, or intended to.

One question, if an indictment is under seal, as Jason L. said, but a deal is made later, will we ever know that there was an indictment under seal, officially?

[LSK]

34. Byron York? National Review? WE HAVECONFIRMATION!!!

:D

[Polemicist]

36. York asked Beelzebub if Satan is evil....

Mark Corallo is a PR flack that apparently has landed the Karl Rove corruption news quashing account. You can't believe anything he says.

Here's his website:

http://www.corallomedia.com/pages/aboutmark.html

[Marr]

39. Save this one, kids. You'll want to rub his nose in it later this week.

[dave123williams]

41. Well as long as a Rove lawer denies it...it musn't be true.