Republicans have owned the CIA and Intelligence for years...

[kentuck]

Even when Democrats have been in power, one always sensed that the Repubs were pulling strings behind the scenes with the CIA and other intelligence agencies. For years, they had their power trip going with the fact that they were always in "control" - even when they were out of power. I'm sure it's been this way since at least the 1950's - maybe even earlier.

Now, what we seeing is that absolute power being corrupted. When they finally gained control of the political branches of government, those in the intelligence agencies threw out all pretense of following the law. They would do what the hell they wanted, they seemed to say. And now, the shit has hit the fan, it seems to me.

[ThoughtCriminal]

1. Same problem with FBI

and other "Police" agencies. This has been a big problem even when a Democrat is in office

There are some, maybe many, very courageous exceptions but one problem with the Pentagon, CIA, FBI, DOJ, NSA, etc. is that they are an attractive career choice for people who like authoritarian leadership.

[Triana]

2. Remember that Drinky Dumbass's Poppy was Head of the CIA

The BFEE has certainly benefitted from his continuing ties and knowledge from that little stint -- and they are STILL manipulating things there and vice versa.

[lvx35]

3. Yeah, its the wink wink nod nod bit.

Bush has been covering everything up, and giving everybody a wink to do what they want...And now that they are doing it, they are corrupting Bush's plans because they lack the team spirit that must be fueled by honesty and sacrifice.

[Vidar]

4. Pretty much from Eisehower on. Kennedy tried to take it back

by firing Alan Dulles & paid for it with his life.

[Sinti]

5. Yep, at least since Allen Dulles' illustrious career with them

He had a different view of the world from most IMO. There just didn't seem to be enough respect for human life in that man to fill a thimble. Apparently, he didn't particularly care for the little people thinking for themselves, generally. I do believe his legacy lives, at least in some ways.

Under Dulles's direction, the CIA established MK-Ultra, a top secret mind control research project which was managed by Sidney Gottlieb.

At Dulles' request, President Eisenhower demanded that Senator McCarthy discontinue issuing subpoenas against the CIA. In March, McCarthy had initiated a series of investigations into potential communist subversion of the Agency. Although none of the investigations revealed any wrongdoing, the hearings were still potentially damaging, not only to the CIA's reputation, but to the security of sensitive information as well. During the time, Dulles was personally overseeing Operation Mockingbird, a program which influenced American media companies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles

[Vidar]

6. Allen & John Foster as precursors of the Bush brothers perhaps--

though much brighter.

[threadkillaz]

7. Sure thing.

[Octafish]

8. And the Bushes have been owned by whoever could afford them...

Prince among thieves, the Petrodollar...

The Real Intelligence Cover-Up: America's Unholy Alliance

Joe Trento's Column
8/6/2003

Washington — Last month, when Saudi Foreign Minister Saud appeared on the south driveway of the White House after President Bush "turned down" his nation's request to declassify 28 pages of the congressional inquiry into 9-11, the Crown Prince appeared appropriately outraged. This was as close to Kabuki theatre as it gets in Washington.

Prince Saud arrived on a private jet from his homeland in a last-ditch attempt to save what remained of the illusion that Saudi Arabia was a friend of the American people. Bush's family and friends and the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar, had already blotted Bandar's copybook for arranging to evacuate the bin Laden clan from Afghanistan after 9-11. The stain got bigger after his wife's money ended up in the bank account of one of the hijackers. Bandar made sure she was moved out of the country.

An unholy alliance between the United States and the Saudi monarchy goes on despite 3,000 dead Americans, who died at the hands of 15 (of 19) Saudi terrorists. The president and the Saudis remain engaged in an effort to protect the Royal family and the reputation of our president's father. The Saudis have steadfastly not cooperated in a series of investigations into terrorist attacks on Americans. The fact that the 9-11 report found direct connections between two hijackers and Saudis with ties to both Saudi intelligence and the Royal family was shocking enough. To watch President Bush conceal this information from the American public and the families of the victims in the name of national security was painful to the survivors of the attacks.

So far, the media has been very kind to the Bush family regarding its long-standing personal and financial connections to the House of Saud. It is time to start talking about what Saudi Arabia and the United States have been doing together that the president believes is worth keeping secret from the survivors of the dead. As we dissect the relationship, it will become apparent that what the White House is protecting is a melding of Saudi and U.S. intelligence activities that began in the 1970s during the time the president's father ran the CIA.

The late Sheik Kamal Adham convinced the United States to engage in secret operations to fund the anti-Soviet Afghan rebels (which later turned into the U.S.-hating Taliban) and to secretly back Saddam Hussein in his insane war against Iran, which destroyed more than a million lives. While the Sheik and his protégé, Prince Turki, were conspiring with the United States to start proxy wars, they were deeply involved in setting up the funding mechanism that created the first Arab nuclear state, Pakistan. Sadly, George H. W. Bush looked the other way as the Saudis poured billions into Pakistan's nuclear weapons program. The United States did this because we believed the Saudis' help was invaluable in supporting the mujahideen in Afghanistan. What we failed to notice was that the most extreme elements in Islam were being funded and recruited by Prince Turki's minions in order to placate home-grown Islamic extremism.

CONTINUED...

http://www.publicedcenter.org/stories/trento/2003-08-06/

CRAZY MONKEY

[shance]

9. Whats the quote? The CIA is the "capitalistic police".

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