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Jason9612 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:01 PM
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I'm sure it's been asked many times, but which Dem do you want for Pres?
For me, I'm going to have to say proabably either Fiengold or Obama.

How about everyone else?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:03 PM
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1. Feingold. n/t
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:04 PM
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2. General Wesley K. Clark.
As always.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:05 PM
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4. Damn, We Posted That At The Same Time
Good call MrSlayer!:patriot:
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:04 PM
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3. Wesley Clark - The repug Silver Bullet
Period.:patriot:
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:06 PM
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5. Sen. Russ Feingold
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:06 PM
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6. Bill Clinton
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:52 PM
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33. Bring back the Big Dog!
:woohoo: I'd so love Al Gore to take his rightful place as President. Either one would make me happy.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:22 PM
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44. There was a time when I would have been raising the Bill Clinton banner
right along with you, but not anymore. He is too close to old man Bush for my taste. I will never trust BC again and I cannot abide Hillary.

Right now, John Edwards is the best candidate, IMO.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:08 PM
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7. Wes Clark
Edited on Sat May-13-06 09:09 PM by mcscajun
Of course. :)

"I stand with the General. Well, lately, I've had the oddest feeling that he's been writing to me." -- Congressional Secretary Charles Thomson, "1776"
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:08 PM
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8. Boxer
R.Feingold.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:09 PM
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9. Gore!!!!!!!
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:11 PM
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10. Can you hear the people sing?
Gore!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:14 PM
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11. Too early to tell.
I urge focus on the high-stakes midterm elections, and watching who emerges after those elections before taking stands and getting vitriolic against anyone who doesn't agree with that stand (as was the ugly case of the primaries during DU.)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:15 PM
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12. Wes Clark - by all means! Competent and gutsy.
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:17 PM
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13. General Wesley Clark
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:17 PM
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14. General Clark
He's from Arkansas! And has some brains and knowledge.
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Jason9612 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:17 PM
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15. What's with this Wesley Clark love affair? Can someone tell me about him?
I've never really heard of him. I'm curious now.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:18 PM
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16. Al Gore n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:19 PM
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18. Hmm....wonder why that is?
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:27 PM
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23. Take a look...
Edited on Sat May-13-06 09:38 PM by mcscajun
Here is his biography, and stance on the issues, from the 2004 election effort to draft the General as a Presidential candidate:

http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/Biography.htm

http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/on_the_issues.htm

If you want to know more, check out the Wesley Clark Supporters Group here at DU:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=235

Oh, and I forgot to mention this, from an 2003 Esquire article. When I first read it back during the 2004 campaign, it made quite the impression on me:

"In August 1995, the general went to Bosnia as part of the negotiating team Ambassador Richard Holbrooke had put together to end the civil war that had resulted in the massacre of as many as eight thousand Muslim men and boys at the town of Srebrenica the month before. In Belgrade, Clark had met for the first time Serbian president Slobodan Milosevic, who was sponsoring the Bosnian Serbs. Now the team had to travel to Sarajevo. Told that the airport in Sarajevo was too dangerous to fly into, the team decided to drive and asked Milosevic to guarantee its safety an a road held by Bosnian Serbs. Milosevic did not, and so the team wound up taking a fortified Humvee and an armored personnel carrier on a pitched, narrow, winding mountain road notoriously vulnerable to Serb machine-gun fire. Clark and Holbrooke went in the Humvee, the rest in the APC. In his book, the general describes what happened this way: 'At the end of the first week we had a tragic accident on Mount Igman, near Sarajevo. (Three mrmhers of the team) were killed when the French armored personnel carrier in which they were riding broke through the shoulder of the road and tumbled several hundred meters down a steep hillside.'

"It is not until one reads Holbrooke's book, To End a War, that one finds out that, after the APC went off the road, Clark grabbed a rope, anchored it to a tree stump, and rappelled down the mountainside after it, despite the gunfire that the explosion of the APC set off, despite the warnings that the mountainside was heavily mined, despite the rain and the mud, and despite Holbrooke yelling that he couldn't go. It is not until one brings the incident up to the general that one finds out that the APC had turned into a kiln, and that Clark stayed with it and aided in the extraction of the bodies..."

(Source: Esquire, Aug. 2003)
http://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2003/030801_mfe_clark_1.html


You see, it's not just what he did; a general, taking action that others might order someone else to do. There was no one else to order at that moment; something had to be done. It's that he was modest about it when it came time to recount the tale.

Courage and modesty. I like that.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:30 PM
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24. Check out his website.
Edited on Sat May-13-06 09:30 PM by MrSlayer
Everything you need to know is there. Clark is the man.

http://www.securingamerica.com/
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:33 PM
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26. Here are some good places to start catching up to Clark
A while back I gathered together a list of good Democratic Underground threads from the past that talked about Wesley Clark. Here is a link to that list:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=235x7786

Also you should see Clark's "Real State of the Union Address" from January of this Year. This link takes you to a choice of Audio or Video feeds or a written transcript of it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=235x7786

The home page for Clark's current web site is this (note that the Community Tab takes you to a blogging areas):
http://securingamerica.com/

Here is the archive of the platform Clark ran on for the 2004 Democratic nomination:
http://www.clark04.com/issues/
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:51 PM
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32. You've never heard of Wes Clark?
Hmmm.
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personman Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:19 PM
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17. Fiengold n/t
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:21 PM
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19. Al Gore
cuz it belongs to him, then John Kerry for the same reason
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RedG1 Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:23 PM
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20. Gore...
with Edwards as Veep
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sproutster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:26 PM
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21. Gore!
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:26 PM
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22. Warner
Most likely to win the electoral college if the popular vote is extremely tight, as I expect
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:32 PM
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25. Gore.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:36 PM
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27. Al Gore n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:41 PM
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28. Feingold first, then Gore
Edited on Sat May-13-06 09:46 PM by me b zola
But I have to say, I think that Gore could win fairly big. I think that a lot of independent voters, or "reagan republicans", would vote for Gore as a way of undoing what was done when they voted for bush*. I don't really know how to explain what I mean, but I think that if Gore were our nominee I believe that there would be a kind of psychology at play that would land him a large victory.


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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:48 PM
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29. "Any".
I have my preferences, but...
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:50 PM
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30. General Wes Clark, Russ Feingold, John Edwards or Mark Warner
Any of the above would make me giddy.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:51 PM
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31. Conyers
But since he won't get the nod, I want Gore/Boxer.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:53 PM
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34. Gore
then Edwards. No Hillary or NATO Clark for me, NWO Corporate types.
America first!!
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Jason9612 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:53 PM
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35. I love what I'm reading on Clark! A liberal general and a good leader!
I would definetly vote for him over any Neo-Con.
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oxbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:06 PM
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38. Yea Clark has a lot of fans on DU
I happen to be one of them, both because he seems eminently electable and because I can respect his position on most issues.

btw, welcome to DU Jason. Freeper!!

(just kidding :hi:)
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 09:53 PM
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36. Feingold or Clark
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:00 PM
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37. Gore!!
The planet needs his vision and leadership.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:08 PM
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39. Kerry
IMO the only man with the full range of expertise, wisdom, and leadership to get us out of this mess.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:11 PM
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40. Al Gore
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:15 PM
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41. Edwards
No matter what anyone says this is class warfare in this country, and Edwards is addressing poverty hands on, head-on... and all the attendant issues that go with that: healthcare, housing, jobs, globalization, rural poverty and more.
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Norwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:18 PM
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42. General Wes Clark
With Russ Feingold or Al Gore a close second
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:19 PM
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43. Either Clark, Gore or Edwards. I'm so confused.
I do know not Hillery.
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:25 PM
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45. Good thread btw.
Good Job and Thank You.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:27 PM
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46. Clark
BUT, after the primaries, I'm onboard with whoever ends up the Democratic nominee.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:28 PM
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47. John Kerry! nt
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:32 PM
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48. Come back after the November elections and we'll talk about it
Meanshile . . .

PELOSI FOR PRESIDENT IN 2007
(Whether she wants it or not)


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dmr4567 Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:45 PM
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49. undecided
I don't want a big business person A general is a good option a man who shines the light on poverty is also favorable a man who speaks well would be a welcome relief
I vow to become more informed on the candidates for now on. What I do know is that if Hilary won the primary I would find it hard to vote for her.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:39 PM
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50. Unfortunately, Bill Clinton's ineligible, and Gore may have almost as much
baggage working against him after the stolen run of 2000 -- Kerry definitely is toting too much in his Samonsites -- so I think I'd have to go with Wes Clark. I always thought he was a primo dude, and one huge advantage is that (apart from probably possessing more integrity than most career politicians) he defuses the Repiglican myth of Democrats being soft in military matters or even anti-military. I think he could survive a swiftboating, too, and prevail.

Bill, Al, and Wes are all southerners...some among us want a break in the run of southern presidents or candidates, but I'm fine with it -- whoever is the best person for the job. Anybody (let's face it) is better than Doofusboy or any other babbling figurehead the neocon f***knuckles decide to install in his stead.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:06 AM
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51. All Along Al Gore
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:08 AM
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52. Jerimiya Snodgrass
I'm commited to Mr. Snodgrass :P
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Roxy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:10 AM
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53. I would support either...Feingold, Gore, or Edwards
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KAT119 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:24 AM
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54. Gore/BOXER would be great!! BRING IT ON!!
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