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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:38 PM Original message |
Ray McGovern Admitted the US Government has "Brainwashed" the US populace |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's a frightening time. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. see post #51 |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. Not surprising |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. And Cheney 's in Russia preaching democracy to Putin. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. "What hypocrisy." |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Rumsfailed said that he is not in the Intelligence Biz. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Complete write up on all the Intelligence Agencies the DOD oversees |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Its actually true. No intelligence radiates from any ot them. |
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Monk06 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Worse. Cheney in KAZAKHSTAN preaching democracy to Russia?????? n/t |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. A Ton of Nerve! |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. I've always associated the "Kool-Aid drinker" label to people |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. But this is not "just an expression" think of how precise Ray's speech is |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. I don't disagree that brain-washing has taken place. |
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northamericancitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. It's getting muddier everyday. Whatever you call it. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:45 PM Response to Reply #17 |
63. It's a "red scare" re-run. Are they building bunkers in their yards.. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. If this had come anyone other than ex-CIA I would dismiss it |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
76. There's no question about it |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. There's no such thing as brainwashing |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. So then you doubt Ray's credibility for choosing those words? |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. This is an excellent resource list |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. That's not brainwashing |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. it is if you are the only person saying it, if 10 people of authority |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I saw your post below |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Er, your wikipedia link agrees with me |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:41 AM Response to Reply #38 |
52. see post #51 |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 08:01 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. That's not brainwashing |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Do you really believe that? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Yes, I really believe that |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You were brainwashed to believe that. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:08 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. LOL |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:13 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. !!!! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. They blinded me with science.... |
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KAT119 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. McGovern has always been laser- precise-upper level CIA |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 11:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Well then, it's out in the open for the mainstream media to ignore |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:23 AM Response to Reply #10 |
49. What about the Moonies? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 08:03 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. They develop effective rhetorical techniques |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
58. There is if you believe there is. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Well |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Yes - but some people are more immune to the rhetoric |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
61. Just because the term isnt scientifically precise |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Of course there are |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
64. Remember Jim Jones? 900 people drank the koolaid.... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Billions of people limit their life potential around the world |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Same thing. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Not really |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
11. "Shocking"? You're kidding, right? |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. This was a CIA analyst that used those words, not a civilian |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Bullshit. "Brainwashing" happens out in the open, 24/7 |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. and they were going to fucking drag him away!!!! |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Ray needs to be questioned about this on his next interview |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
19. Ray McGovern: Another American Hero |
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Kire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Don't forget Harry Taylor |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Amen! (eom) |
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slaveplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 12:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Don't leave out Cynthia McKinney |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. I caught it too |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
21. I've been saying for years that brain washing is happening |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I remember that - people HATED college students but I had no idea why |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
23. Psy Ops against the American people |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
25. At least I know they can't brainwash me...... |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
26. At least I know they can't brainwash me...... |
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Sinti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. It's called Mindwar |
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LeahD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Thanks for the link. Frightening. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. Oh! Michael Aquino wrote that? He was running a child molesting |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-05-06 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. (Hmmm..) So that's what happened. So many of them shrank!! |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
42. The sound of one particular woman flatly bellowing "Get outta here" |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
44. fun things can be done with light pulses |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
70. It was just reading that in the Mindwar paper. low frequency waves |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
45. I commented on their fascist behaviour |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. great minds think alike |
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frustrated_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 05:21 AM Response to Original message |
46. See CounterPunch for more from V.I.P.S. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
50. Nothing we didn't already know |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
51. "Goebbels" perfected of the Big Lie technique of mass propaganda |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
60. Well I just spoke with a military officer about this |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
72. Brainwashing America |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Psy Ops is a legitimate technique to use against enemies |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Exactly!!! Nobody here thinks that these tactics should be used in US |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
75. Bill Hicks said it best: |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
78. i felt the cia was pissed at neocons long ago |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-06-06 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
79. Maybe a percentage but not all |
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