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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:06 PM Original message |
Cookies: The insidious mysteries revealed |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. You are missing the point-it is not legal for the NSA or the White House |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. No, I'm NOT missing the point |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. The government has an obligation to make sure that all, including |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. I don't disagree |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. For me, it's overload from a government that is not accountable |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. For me, it's a job hazard and persistent nightmare |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I go back to the point that was made in the Video from CNN today |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Our Company Requires All Code to be Code-Reviewed Before Checkin |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I've heard rumours of places that do that |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. This is the NSA we're talking about, not some rinky dink web shop. |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Seriously? |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I agree with you about the programming aspect but then the NSA |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:29 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Yeah, major oops |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Gov't web sites typically are low priority items. What they may say about |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Privacy Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552a |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Yes, it's referenced but have you read it? OMB promulgated policy |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. (v) Office of Management and Budget Responsibilities |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. No it's not automatically the case that a violation of policy is a |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Good luck |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Brandt cites another policy & procedure doc, not Fed regulations. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 08:41 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. The Privacy Act itself makes them illegal - deal with it. |
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lostexpectation (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
2. yeah |
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liveoaktx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I don't agree this muddies the water, it shows that the same principle |
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alpaca (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well said |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. Good post ... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. Thank you. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
74. Thank you. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. but what if that "small piece of information" is an executable file? |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Cookies can't do that n/t |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. . .. and more doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. And the moon is made of green cheese ... |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. To support your argument let me quote Napoleon Dynamite.... "Idiots"(n/t) |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. We need a "smiley" of that ... |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. And what if pigs could fly over no-fly zones? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Maybe the CIA has its own definition of cookie |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. There was a thread ... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Did you ever see the publicity film of the guy eating Agent Orange? |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. The mind boggles... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Maybe in your world Microsoft and the CIA operate transparently |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Look ... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Nearly every PC runs on MS software, so nearly everyone |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Get this through your head ... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 02:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Note that I said vulnerable, |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
64. NOT from cookies |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. My illusions have been shattered |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
67. What if they upgrade to a bisquit? |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. Sigh... your right - but your wasting your time trying to explain... |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. The ones with the chocolate chips and nuts |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. Cookies can store info like |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
75. Not that I can find. n/t |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. Yeah I guess that's why doubleclick, esomniture, 2o7, etc go to |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. You DO know what a tracking cookie is right? |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. DoubleClick is truly evil |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. OK I get what you are saying |
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simmer65 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Change your settings |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. That's sound advice |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Welcome to DU!!! |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
48. But DoubleClick was not just a site cookie. Tracking across domains |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 06:18 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. But DoubleClick only works with sites that collude |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 07:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Yes. Thanks for putting it more clearly than I did. n/t |
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Maestro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-29-05 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
27. I agree with you |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. I'd bet good money... |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 12:42 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Does such a law exist? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:40 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. I found some policy docs with guidelines on the OMB website here: |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
63. The law has existed since 1974: Privacy Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552a |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. And the section banning website cookies? |
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ngGale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:10 AM Response to Original message |
49. These cookies are not just a bag of Oreos.... |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
52. Article on "How Internet Cookies Work" on the How Stuff Works site |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 07:20 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Yesterday's NYTimes |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
54. If the cookie can't be accessed at all if I disable cookies in my... |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 07:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Is this a hypothetical? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 08:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. No, in my advanced privacy settings I have cookies blocked... |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Then you don't have the right privacy setting |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Terminology ... |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. Storing a password is different from accepting cookies |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
65. COMLETE RUBBISH. |
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mrfrapp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Okay |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. Thank you for your sane and reasonable answer!! |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Privacy advocates Smith and Brandt do not allege that NSA cookies |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 02:40 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. we'll never know |
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mrfrapp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-31-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Cookies can't do that |
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union_maid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
70. I have to admit, I find it hard to get excited over this one |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Then you're not paying attention. |
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patrioticliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
77. Not Web Bugs. Web bugs are different.. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-30-05 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
78. There are cookies and there are cookies. |
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