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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 09:58 PM
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Flight 93 Passengers did MORE than FAA, Pentagon and White House.
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 10:15 PM by Octafish


From James Ridgeway, the columnist recently fired from The Village Voice:



American Airlines Could Have Saved That Flight; Instead They Tried to Keep the Hijackings Secret

What You Won't See in Flight 93, the Film


By JAMES RIDGEWAY
Counterpunch April 28, 2006

The only people to defend the United States on 911 were the passengers and crews of the 4 hijacked planes.

The President and the Secretary of Defense, the two top officials in the chain of command responsible for defense the country were out of commission. Dick Cheney, the vice president, who under the constitution has no authority to issue orders, was running the country from the White House bunker. The FAA and the military were nowhere.

On Flight 11, flight attendants Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney were on the phone to American Airlines ground personnel minutes after the hijacking began. Even though both the FAA and the airlines had been warned more than 50 times in the months preceding the attack, officials on the ground reacted with skepticism an annoyance to Betty Ong’s desperate call.

According to one account by people who have listened to all the tapes, American Airlines people were anxious to keep what was going on secret. An American Airlines tape, according to Gail Sheehy in the New York Observer, shows the managers were concerned about keeping things secret. People who listened to the tapes said there were statements including the following: "Keep it close,’’ "keep it quiet’’, "Let’s keep this among ourselves.’’

So in those terrifying minutes before the first hit, two brave women on the phone inside Flight 11 were calmly telling American Airlines ground officials exactly what was happening.

The airline’s reaction: Nothing. It did absolutely nothing.

CONTINUED...

http://www.counterpunch.org/ridgeway04282006.html

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:06 PM
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1. kick
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:45 PM
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2. I don't know about the movie. I do know these people are heroes.
They gave a damn and tried to stop the hijackers.
In so doing, they helped stop a plane flying into the White House or Congress or wherever.
They changed the world.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:38 AM
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10. I agree... 9/11 families are the real hero!
They took on everyone and still doing it today! :kick:
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lostexpectation Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:55 PM
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3. So the passengers knew before the pilots???
is that reflected in the film?
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:11 PM
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4. No, in the movie, it does not suggest that the
flight attendants knew what was going on before the pilots did. Quite the opposite.

It seems that there are a gazillion threads about the movie and it seems that only a small number of posters (me included) have actually seen it so far. (Not surprising since it's only just opened today in many cities). That said, I don't want to repeat myself ad nauseum so I'll simply respond with a direct response to the direct question for now.


Cheers, Jazz.



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lostexpectation Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:16 PM
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5. thanks
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 11:26 PM by lostexpectation
in reality did the passengers know something was up before Saudi :P men made themselves known?

In the film did the passengers know before the stewards...

Did you post a review of the film on this site already.. link...

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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:25 AM
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9. In the movie,
no, the passengers didn't know anything until the hijackers made themselves known, and the passengers didn't know anything before the flight crew.

I haven't posted a complete review yet as I just saw the movie today and I'm not in the movie review business, but I have posted my initial reactions and my initial responses to specific questions on other threads here, yes.

I'm not sure how to link to other threads, though.

(But I'll try)

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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:24 PM
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8. Dunno about the film. Do know American could've warned other airlines...
... Ridgeway reports the stewardesses on Flight 11 got on the phone right away and the airline headquarters told the people to keep quiet, rather than warn the other airplanes that had not yet been hijacked. Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania was still on the ground at the time of the calls. In the article, the radio transcripts show the pilots were warned after they had been airborne. They asked for confirmation about cockpit intrustions and a couple minutes later are heard to shout "Get out of here."
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:43 AM
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12. ''Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania was still on the ground at the
time of the calls.''

WTFFFFFFF???????


I'm assuming you're certain about that!!!!

isn't this completely inSANE if true?

am I missing something here?

when did they ground/direct planes to land, based on knowledge of highjacking of first planes?

I know this has been gone into ad nauseum, but I've never bothered to follow the timeline that closely.

how on EARTH was this plane allowed to proceed, if they KNEW those other flights had been highjacked?

this makes the entire premise of the movie.....what? totally specious?

this one fact would make the actions of those on the plane irrelevant!!!!!!!!!!

the only important issue would seem to be WHY this plane was allowed to take off, or continue on its flight plan

I know I'm a dim bulb, but can somebody tell me what I'm missing here?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:08 AM
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21. It's incredible.
But it's the truth.

More of what we know:



9) 8:01 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 93 a Boeing 757-222 with a maximum capacity of 200 passengers and 11,489 gallons of fuel, rolls from the gate in Newark International Airport, Newark, New Jersey with 44 people aboard bound for San Francisco International Airport, San Francisco, California. United Airlines Flight 93 will sit on the ground for 41 minutes before taking off. There are supposed to be 44 victims on board, yet when you add up the official death manifest list that was published on CNN.com, there are only 33 victims.

10) 8:13:31 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 last transmission from Boston Air Traffic Control: AAL11 turn 20 degrees right American Airlines Flight 11 responds: 20 right AAL11.

A few seconds later the Controller asks: AAL11 now climb maintain FL350 <35,000 feet> Controller: AAL11 climb maintain FL350 Controller: AAL11 Boston. There is no response from American Airlines Flight 11.

11) 8:14 to 8:20 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 goes off course and is hijacked.

12) 8:14 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 175 a Boeing 767-222 with a maximum capacity of 181 passengers and 23,980 gallons of fuel, lifts off from Logan International Airport in Boston, Massachusetts, bound for Los Angeles International Airport in Los Angeles, California. Take-off was scheduled for 7:58. There are supposed to be 65 victims on board, yet when you add up the official death manifest list that was published on CNN.com, there are only 56 victims.

13) 8:17 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 passenger Daniel Lewin, who belongs to the Israel Defense Force Sayeret Matkal, a top-secret counter-terrorist unit is either stabbed or shot to death. Quite the coincidence he would be onboard.

CONTINUED...

http://www.911timeline.net/


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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:18 PM
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6. I just watched a program on the History channel about the last hour
of flight 11 (the 1st one that hit the WTC). They had the original recordings of some of the calls by Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney. I'd never heard this before but they were able to give a lot of info about the hijackers, and keep the passengers calm. Nobody panicked, which, in a very small way, was a blessing. The crew of AA flight 11 were true heroes.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:55 AM
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19. U.S. air defenses functioned according to protocols on September 11, 2001
The flight crew told the truth, which is more than can be said for the federal government.



Bring 'em On!

The Bush administration's top 40 lies about war and terrorism


By Steve Perry
City Pages
Wednesday 30 July 2003

EXCERPT...

15) U.S. air defenses functioned according to protocols on September 11, 2001.

Old questions abound here. The central mystery, of how U.S. air defenses could have responded so poorly on that day, is fairly easy to grasp. A cursory look at that morning's timeline of events is enough. In very short strokes:

8:13 Flight 11 disobeys air traffic instructions and turns off its transponder.

8:40 NORAD command center claims first notification of likely Flight 11 hijacking.

8:42 Flight 175 veers off course and shuts down its transponder.

8:43 NORAD claims first notification of likely Flight 175 hijacking.

8:46 Flight 11 hits the World Trade Center north tower.

8:46 Flight 77 goes off course.

9:03 Flight 175 hits the WTC south tower.

9:16 Flight 93 goes off course.

9:16 NORAD claims first notification of likely Flight 93 hijacking.

9:24 NORAD claims first notification of likely Flight 77 hijacking.

9:37 Flight 77 hits the Pentagon.

10:06 Flight 93 crashes in a Pennsylvania field.

The open secret here is that stateside U.S. air defenses had been reduced to paltry levels since the end of the Cold War. According to a report by Paul Thompson published at the endlessly informative Center for
Cooperative Research website (www.cooperativeresearch.org), "nly two air force bases in the Northeast region... were formally part of NORAD's defensive system. One was Otis Air National Guard Base, on Massachusetts's Cape Cod peninsula and about 188 miles east of New York City. The other was Langley Air Force Base near Norfolk, Virginia, and about 129 miles south of Washington. During the Cold War, the U.S. had literally thousands of fighters on alert. But as the Cold War wound down, this number was reduced until it reached only 14 fighters in the continental U.S. by 9/11."

But even an underpowered air defense system on slow-response status (15 minutes, officially, on 9/11) does not explain the magnitude of NORAD's apparent failures that day. Start with the discrepancy in the times at which NORAD commanders claim to have learned of the various hijackings. By 8:43 a.m., NORAD had been notified of two probable hijackings in the previous five minutes. If there was such a thing as a system-wide air defense crisis plan, it should have kicked in at that moment. Three minutes later, at 8:46, Flight 11 crashed into the first WTC tower. By then alerts should have been going out to all regional air traffic centers of apparent coordinated hijackings in progress. Yet when Flight 77, which eventually crashed into the Pentagon, was hijacked three minutes later, at 8:46, NORAD claims not to have learned of it until 9:24, 38 minutes after the fact and just 13 minutes before it crashed into the Pentagon.

The professed lag in reacting to the hijacking of Flight 93 is just as striking. NORAD acknowledged learning of the hijacking at 9:16, yet the Pentagon's position is that it had not yet intercepted the plane when it crashed in a Pennsylvania field just minutes away from Washington, D.C. at 10:06, a full 50 minutes later.

CONTINUED...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/printer_080103F.shtml

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KyuzoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:23 PM
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7. SAC/NORAD didn't respond because they changed the rules in June '01.
In June 2001, the regulations on shooting derelict or hijacked commercial aircraft from the sky were changed so that such action required a direct order from the Secretary of Defense. That order never came.
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:39 AM
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11. They allude to some kind of change in protocol in the movie, I think....
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 12:46 AM by Jazz2006
but I thought that it was a change in protocol from requiring authorization from the president to requiring authorization from the vice president.

I could be wrong, of course, and maybe the change was to authorize the DOD to issue such an order. But in any event, that order would have been so new to the airlines and the FAA (who hadn't had a hijacking in decades) that it really wouldn't have mattered much and they probably wouldn't have noticed the change, although they SHOULD have in retrospect, of course.

In the movie, it's not clear who they're looking to for authorization - Early on, they're saying, (paraphrasing) "we need authorization from the president" and later on, (after they can't find out where Bush is and they can't get in contact with him and haven't heard anything from him, and after the bit where they say that Airforce 1 is in the air and doesn't know anything about what's going on, they say, (paraphrasing) "the vice president can authorize this" (((paraphrasing because I can't remember the exact words from the movie)))

In real life, if memory serves, there was a change made in protocol in the summer of 2001 that would allow certain orders (such as shoot down orders? to be made by the vice president rather than the president but I don't know anything about the DoD being given that kind of authority.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:45 AM
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13. I'm pretty sure Richard Clarke goes into this in the first chapter of
Against All Enemies.

I don't remember details, but they are NOT flattering to Cheney, his harridan wife, or Rumsfeld, not to mention monkeyboy

I wonder what his reaction to this movie is
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 12:49 AM
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14. My guess is that he, like you, hasn't seen it yet.
Just a guess.

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:06 AM
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15. check this out, including a very interesting name that is writ large
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 01:10 AM by Gabi Hayes
in the invasion of Iraq, and its aftermath:

THE COMMISSION'S TREATMENT OF UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93

Flight 93 presented the 9/11 Commission with a different task. In relation to the previous flights, the Commission's task was to explain why the US military did not intercept and shoot them down. With regard to Flight 93, the Commission had to convince us that the military did not shoot it down. It sought to do this not by refuting the evidence, which is considerable, that the airliner was shot down, but by simply constructing a new story intended to show that the US military could not have shot down Flight 93.



The Military's Ignorance of the Hijacking

The Commission makes two major claims about Flight 93. The first one is that: "By the time the military learned about the flight, it had crashed" (229). The centrality of this claim is shown by the fact that it is repeated, almost mantra-like, throughout the Commission's chapter.20



Incredible FAA Incompetence

The main support for this claim is provided by yet another tale of amazing incompetence by FAA officials. At 9:28, we are told, the traffic controller in Cleveland heard "sounds of possible screaming" and noticed that Flight 93 had descended 700 feet, but he did nothing. Four minutes later, he heard a voice saying: "We have a bomb on board." This controller, not being completely brain dead, finally notified his supervisor, who in turn notified FAA headquarters. Later, however, when Cleveland asked Herndon whether the military had been called, the Commission claims, Herndon "told Cleveland that FAA personnel well above them in the chain of command had to make the decision to seek military assistance and were working on the issue" (227). To accept this account, we must believe that, on a day on which there had already been attacks by hijacked airliners, officials at FAA headquarters had to debate whether a hijacked airliner with a bomb on board was important enough to disturb the military. And we must believe that they were still debating this question 13 minutes later, when, we are told, the following conversation between Herndon and FAA headquarters occurred:


Command Center: Uh, do we want to think, uh, about scrambling aircraft?
FAA Headquarters: Oh, God, I don't know.
Command Center: Uh, that's a decision somebody's gonna have to make probably in the next ten minutes. (228)

But obviously the decision was that the military should not be disturbed, because 14 minutes later, at 10:03, when Flight 93 crashed in Pennsylvania, we are told, "no one from FAA headquarters requested military assistance regarding United 93" (229). We are expected to believe, in other words, that FAA officials acted like complete idiots.



Worthless Teleconferences

In any case, besides arguing, by means of this tale of incredible incompetence, that the FAA never formally notified the military about Flight 93, the Commission argued that there was also no informal notification during any teleconference. In this case, not being able to argue that the teleconferences began too late, the Commission argued that they were worthless. Its summary statement said: "The FAA, the White House, and the Defense Department each initiated a multiagency teleconference before 9:30. none of these teleconferences . . . included the right officials from both the FAA and the Defense Department" (211).

Let us begin with the teleconference initiated by the National Military Command Center. Why was it worthless for transmitting information from the FAA to the military? Because, we are told, Pentagon operators were unable to get the FAA on the line. This is a very implausible claim, especially since, we are told, the operators were able to reach everyone else (230-31). Also, as we saw earlier, Laura Brown of the FAA seemed to have independent knowledge about when this teleconference started---which suggests that the FAA was reached.

Why was the FAA-initiated teleconference equally worthless? The problem here, the Commission claimed, was that the officer at the NMCC said that "the information was of little value" so he did not pay attention (234).

However, even if we could believe that no one at the Pentagon was monitoring the call, Laura Brown's memo had said that in addition to the phone bridge set up by the FAA with the Pentagon, the "Air Force liaison to the FAA . . . established contact with NORAD on a separate line." So even if no one at the Pentagon was paying attention, the military still would have received the information. Her memo said, moreover, that "he FAA shared real-time information . . . about . . . all the flights of interest" (183), and the Commission itself agrees that by 9:34, FAA headquarters knew about the hijacking of Flight 93, so it was a "flight of interest." The Commission's claim is, therefore, flatly contradicted by this memo, which was read into the Commission's record.

What about the White House videoconference, which was run by Richard Clarke? The Commissioners say: "We do not know who from Defense participated" (210). But this claim is completely unbelievable. One problem is that it contradicts the Commission's assurance that "the right people" were not involved in this conference: How could they know this if they did not know who was involved? The main problem, however, is simply that the claim is absurd. Surely any number of people at the Pentagon could have told the Commissioners who participated in Clarke's videoconference.

Simpler yet, they could have looked at Clarke's book, Against All Enemies, which became a national best seller during the Commission's hearings. It clearly states that the participants from the Pentagon were Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and General Richard Myers, Acting Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (210-12).21 It also reports that the FAA was represented by its top official, Jane Garvey. And if these were not "the right people," who would have been?

The Commission's attempt to prove that the military could not have learned about Flight 93 from this videoconference is even more explicitly contradicted by Clarke, who reports that at about 9:35, Jane Garvey reported on a number of "potential hijacks," which included "United 93 over Pennsylvania" (232). Therefore, more than 25 minutes before Flight 93 crashed, according to Clarke, both Myers and Rumsfeld heard from the head of the FAA that Flight 93 was considered a potential hijack.

The Commission's tales about FAA incompetence and worthless teleconferences are, therefore, directly contradicted by Laura Brown's memo and Richard Clarke's book. Their combined testimony implies that the Commission's main claim--that "by the time the military learned about the flight, it had crashed"--is a bald-faced lie.



Cheney's Arrival at the Shelter Conference Room

To recall where we are: The Commission's first major claim is that the US military could not have shot down Flight 93 because it did not know about the hijacking of this flight until after it crashed at 10:03. The Commission's second main point, to which we now turn, is that the authorization to shoot planes down was not issued until several minutes after 10:03.

In support of this point, the Commission claims that Vice President Cheney, who was known to have issued the shoot-down authorization from the shelter conference room under the White House, did not get down there until about almost 10:00, "perhaps at 9:58" (241). This claim, however, is doubly problematic.

One problem is that this claim is not supported by any documentation. The Commission says that the Secret Service ordered Cheney to go downstairs "just before 9:36"; that Cheney entered the underground corridor at 9:37; that he then, instead of going straight to the shelter conference room at the other end of the corridor, spent some 20 minutes calling the president and watching television coverage of the aftermath of the strike on the Pentagon (241). This timeline is said to be based on Secret Service alarm data showing that the Vice President entered the underground corridor at 9:37. However, The 9/11 Commission Report then says that this "alarm data . . . is no longer retrievable" (244). We must, therefore, simply take the Commission's claim on faith.

And this is very difficult, since the Commission's claim is contradicted by every prior report. A White House photographer, who was an eyewitness, and various newspapers, including the New York Times, said that Cheney went below shortly after 9:00. Richard Clarke's account suggests that Cheney went below before 9:15 (242). Even Cheney himself, speaking on "Meet the Press" five days after 9/11, indicated that he was taken downstairs at about that time (243). The Commission, showing its usual disdain for evidence that contradicts its story, makes no mention of any of these reports.

The most dramatic contradiction of the Commission's timeline was provided by Norman Mineta. In open testimony to the Commission itself, he said, as we saw earlier, that when he got to the underground shelter at 9:20, Cheney was already there and fully in charge. The Commission, insisting that Cheney did not get there until almost 10:00, simply omitted any mention of this testimony in its Final Report. But Mineta's testimony is still available for anyone to read.22

We can say with a very high level of confidence, therefore, that the Commission's account is a lie.

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20051205150219651


I'm pretty sure 911 truth.org won't mind my overstepping copyright bounds on this

It's SO sickening, and so OLD news

thanks, M$M for ignoring EVERYTHING

and thanks for touting this piece of BS propaganda mythology


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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:41 AM
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16. The protocol for dealing with hijackings previous to June 2001....
...had been pretty well cast in concrete for many years. Essentially, the FAA notified NORAD when a hijacking was suspected, and NORAD released the interceptors. Automatic response. Simple. Easy. It was a response system that worked very well, allowing interceptors to take-off within six to ten minutes of receiving the authorization.

In June 2001, the rules were changed. After that point in time, only the Secretary of Defense could authorize the release of interceptors. Repeat...the Secretary of Defense. Rumsfeld.

That one change in the procedure created a delay of at least thirty minutes in responding to the hijackings. Why? Because Rummy was difficult to find that morning according to most accounts.

Most of the interceptors were involved in drills on the morning of September 11, 2001. Those drills involved how to deal with hijacked airliners, something which, IMHO, added to the overall confusion that morning.

Is it mere coincidence that those drills were scheduled for that particular day?

The five interceptors that were eventually launched that morning came from two bases...one located south of Boston, MA, and one located in Hampton, VA. The five jets flew at an average speed of roughly 575 mph, but all of them were capable of speeds well over 1400 mph. Why were none of the planes authorized to fly faster?

By the time the interceptors reached the scene of the attacks, the action was over, leaving only one hijacked plane in the air, Flight 93. Meanwhile, Cheney was giving the orders, three different times, to shoot down any airliner not obeying the instructions to land immediately.

Too many questions, and not enough answers, IMHO.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:00 AM
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20. Report documents command and communication errors
The chain of command never yanked this bozo:





Air Defenses Faltered on 9/11, Panel Finds

Report documents command and communication errors.


By Dan Eggen and William Branigin
Washington Post
Thursday 17 June 2004

The chief of U.S. air defenses testified today that if his command had been notified immediately of the Sept. 11, 2001, hijackings and ordered to intervene, U.S. fighter jets would have been able to shoot down all four of the airliners that were seized by terrorists and that ultimately crashed into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania.

Air Force Gen. Ralph E. Eberhart, commander of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), told the commission investigating the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks that had the Federal Aviation Administration conveyed word of the hijackings as soon it knew of them, "yes, we could shoot down the airplanes."

The chairman and vice chairman of the commission later expressed surprise about Eberhart's claim, and a report by the panel's staff said it was uncertain that any of the hijacked planes could have been shot down.

Eberhart, who has headed NORAD since February 2000, assured the commission that if the Sept. 11 plot were carried out today, the command's planes would be able to shoot down all four planes with time to spare, because of improvements implemented since the attacks. But he warned that NORAD should always be considered a "force of last resort."

According to the commission's new staff report, Vice President Cheney did not issue orders to shoot down hostile aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001, until long after the last hijacked airliner had already crashed, and that the order was never passed along to military fighter pilots searching for errant aircraft that morning.

CONTINUED...

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/4/4911


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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 01:49 AM
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17. Nah. It's a complete and total fabrication.... but hey, it's good enter-
tainment, right?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:39 AM
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18. F.A.A. Official Scrapped Tape of 9/11 Controllers' Statements
Those in positions of responsibility do all they can to convince us they're lying.



F.A.A. Official Scrapped Tape of 9/11 Controllers' Statements

By Matthew L. Wald
The New York Times
Thursday 06 May 2004

WASHINGTON - At least six air traffic controllers who dealt with two of the hijacked airliners on Sept. 11, 2001, made a tape recording that day describing the events, but the tape was destroyed by a supervisor without anyone making a transcript or even listening to it, the Transportation Department said today.

The taping began before noon on Sept. 11 at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center, in Ronkonkoma, on Long Island, but it was later destroyed by an F.A.A. quality-assurance manager, who crushed the cassette in his hand, cut the tape into little pieces and dropped them in different trash cans around the building, according to a report made public today by the inspector general of the Transportation Department.

The inspector general, Kenneth M. Mead, had been asked by Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, to look into how well the Federal Aviation Administration had cooperated with the 9/11 Commission.

The quality-assurance manager told investigators that he had destroyed the tape because he thought making it was contrary to F.A.A. policy, which calls for written statements, and because he felt that the controllers "were not in the correct frame of mind to have properly consented to the taping" because of the stress of the day, Mr. Mead reported.

Another official, the center's manager, asked the controllers to make the tape because "he wanted a contemporaneous recordation of controller accounts to be immediately available for law enforcement," according to the Mead report, and was concerned that the controllers would take a leave of absence immediately, which is standard procedure after a crash.

CONTINUED...

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/9/4392

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