Liberate Iraq but not Mexico?

[DanCa]

I wonder what would happen if all those Iraqis that we helped "liberate' decided to come to the United States in droves. Would we greet them with open arms and flowers? How can we liberate one country and not another Ths GOP hypocrisy is beyond me.

[msongs]

1. both countries should liberate themselves and not expect someone

else to do it for them. Mexico's problems are mostly self generated as are (or at least were) Iraq's.

Mexico vigourously defends its own borders by the way as does (or did) Iraq.

Of the 3 countries, the USA, Mexico, and Iraq, only the USA does not defend its borders.

Msongs
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[DanCa]

2. Agreed were not the world 's peace makers.

I am just trying to shoot down one of the many many reasons that the rethugs throw at us for wanting to go to war.

[Boojatta]

3. One possible answer: There's nothing wrong with Mexico.

The problem is lazy Americans creating a vacuum that is sucking in Mexicans. The Mexican government would complain, but it wants to be polite, so it doesn't say anything about the vacuum up north that is draining Mexico of its most valuable workers.

Meanwhile, it was necessary to invade Iraq to create jobs for Americans. American soldiers wouldn't be interested in going to Mexico because it's so familiar that it doesn't seem exotic enough. The decision to invade Iraq was made after extensive consultations with American soldiers.

;-)

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. There is plenty wrong with Mexico

It has a horrible economy. Why do you think so many Mexicans are risking so much to cross the border illegally and come here?

Of course they don't have an evil dictator like Sadaam and I doubt Vincente Fox is hiding any WMDs. But then again, what is the PNAC position on Mexico? LOL

[shamrock]

6. Lazy Americans?

I sure don't know many. You know, millworkers, loggers, restaurant workers, maids. People working two jobs to make ends meet. Husband and wife both HAVE to work, people who clean their own toilets and do their own gardening, etc.even when they can afford to hire someone. Isn't it mainly the corporations making the jobs available? Is that what you're calling lazy Americans? Anywhere in the world the rich usually hire someone to do their dirty work, even in Mexico.
Damn! I'm so tired of hearing how Americans are lazy.......(and won't do the work for even $50.an hr.)

On Edit: Or were you joking?

[Boojatta]

7. "Or were you joking?" What did you think the winking smilie meant? e.o.m.

[shamrock]

9. sorry, missed it.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

8. Sorry to respectfully disagree, but

Mexico is very nearly a feudal society, run the way George Bush would eventually like to see America run. Mexico has an extremely wealthy upper class that pays only 12% of their massive income in tax (compared to about a 25% rate in the U.S.). In fact, it's supposedly the lowest tax rate in Latin America. The result is a very poor social infrastructure, a poor educational system, poor healthcare, no affirmative action to get women into the universities and corporate boardrooms, no estate tax and a tiny middle class. Mexico is George Bush's dream for America, a permanent under class and permanent overlords with a diminished middle class. Mexico has the 3rd richest man on earth according to the Forbes list of richest men. It has 10 of the 24 billionaires in Latin America. Mexico's federal government spends several billion dollars a year paying out bribes.

On Amy Goodman's show Democracy Now this morning, they had an interview of two people concerned with the alleged assassination of Mexican Human Rights activist Digna Ochoa by Mexican military:

"...In October 2001, renowned Mexican human rights lawyer Digna Ochoa was found shot dead in her Mexico City office. Despite previous attempts on her life and other evidence pointing to foul-play, Ochoa's death was declared a suicide by Mexico City prosecutors. We discuss her life and death with award-winning journalist Linda Diebel, author of "Betrayed: The Assassination of Digna Ochoa" and Kerry Kennedy, founder of the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Center for Human Rights. We take a look at the life and death of the Mexican human rights lawyer Digna Ochoa. Ochoa was a former nun who went on to represent some of Mexico"s poorest constituents against powerful government interests. She also uncovered torture and other abuses by the Mexican military and police. Ochoa worked on behalf of peasant ecologists in the state of Guerrerro, Zapatistas guerrillas in Chiapas and indigenous Indians in her home state of Verazcruz. At the time of her death, she was defending three men charged with bombing banks in Mexico City to protest against globalization.

In October 2001, Digna Ochoa was found shot dead in her Mexico City office. She was thirty-seven years old and had received many death threats. In fact, when Ochoa was twenty-four she was kidnapped and raped only days after discovering a blacklist of union organizers and political activists in the office of the state attorney general. ..."

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/27/149240

I don't think the U.S. should invade Mexico. Maybe we should extend political asylum to Mexicans coming to the United States. Mexico is a repressive regime that gets the green light from Bush and the corporations who want to do business there and which supplies cheap uneducated labor here. But ultimately it should be up to Mexicans themselves to change their own corrupt system.

[sweetheart]

4. liberate washington DC

Democracy for washington DC!!