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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:57 PM
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Will the Patriots and/or the Giants return to the Super Bowl
Why?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:08 PM
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1. Not the Giants, anyway
The Cowboys will dominate the NFC this year.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:03 PM
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2. Well the should until they self destruct
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:34 PM
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3. I'm holding out hope for a much better late season...we shall see
After 11 years without a playoff win...they're due!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:43 PM
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4. The Cowboys roster is full of trouble makers and misfits
and you have a nice guy coach who has been shown little to no support by the owner. That has all the makings for a midseason melt down.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:06 AM
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6. I can't disagree with that. However...
Somehow, they put the fear of God into TO last year, and he actually behaved, and even did some things to earn his keep. I'm assuming the staff feels they can accomplish the same with Pacman and the likes of him. The head coach doesn't contribute a lot, IMO. The real accomplishments coaching wise have come from the coordinaters.

We shall see...
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 03:02 PM
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10. TO has a history of behaving then misbehaving
You never know what will set him off though.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 06:41 PM
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11. True...I will give him credit for staying on the straight and narrow all last season
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:33 AM
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13. He did that for a couple of seasons in Philly
From what I have seen, that doesn't ensure he will behave.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:12 AM
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15. Nothing insures it....one would hope he would see the upside of playing for a team that wins
and actually plays as a team. Again...we shall see.
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 07:45 AM
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5. Neither
The Patriots secondary is a year older and slower. The offensive line is also slower. The giants showed how to beat them. Granted only three or four teams have the defense to do it, but the Pats play the Chargers, Seahawks, Steelers and Colts, who can beat them. I see another playoff season and division win, but not the superbowl. Plus, I doubt Brady or Moss will repeat their historical feats again. Both will probably just have "normal" pro-bowl type seasons, which is indeed amazing, but not likley to repeat those stats again.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 09:44 AM
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7. NE will also have to deal with an improved division
Teams love playing in weak divisions because it inflates their record. This year their divisional games will be more difficult. I also think NE's LB corp has slowed as well.
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 01:43 PM
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8. True
I still see Miami and the Jets as weak foes, but they are improved from last year. NE should win the East though.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 02:03 PM
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9. I would agree, but I don't think they will be the easy wins
of last season.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-13-08 10:17 PM
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12. They still play the easiest schedule in the NFL
I think it's something like a .387 winning percentage.

Which is just ridiculous. Like they need the help.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:34 AM
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14. Well that was last year's percentages
In today's NFL that really doesn't mean a thing. Teams can go from worse to best or vice versa in as little as one season.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-08 10:41 AM
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16. The Eagles whipped the Pats into a froth last Friday,
several rookies made the Pats old guys look stupid.

Eagles will dominate the NL East, might go all the way finally.

mark
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