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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 12:18 PM
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Has anyone received anything like this recently?
In a PM I received in response to something I posted:

"Jesus Christ, you are one messed up person!"

"I stand by my statement that most women are unexceptional. Why should women be excepted from what I feel equally toward men?"

"You are a piece of work, you are."


He also posted this nearly verbatim as a response to SOMEONE ELSE in the same thread, but without the personal insults.

This pisses me off no end... This was in response to posts in a thread (now locked) where I defended against a statement exactly like the one above... only a bit more insulting... basically most women are idiots (words changed to protect the guilty).

Yes, I alerted on the PMs. I am just wondering if anyone else has been the target of this kind of subversive crap.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:48 PM
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1. Thankfully no
But I'll tell you...I am very discouraged by what some people have been posting since this whole Supreme Court nominee shit came down. It is really appalling to me that we have to defend basic women's rights on a progressive board. So I'm not surprised that they've resorted to name-calling too. It's Coulteresque.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:03 PM
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4. It's gotten really ridiculous around here...
I can't believe the animosity towards women I've witnessed this week!
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:54 PM
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2. are you kidding me?
I've gotten angry PMs, but nothing even remotely as out of line as that one. :grr:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:02 PM
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3. Yep, and just got another...
:mad:
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:04 PM
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5. alert on it...
I got that kind of nasty-gram in the past and I alerted and the poster was banned shortly thereafter
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:06 PM
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7. Thank you... I will.
:thumbsup:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:05 PM
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6. Well
He thinks most women are un-exceptional. But you, Misunderestimator, are one messed up person and a piece of work according to him. You should write him back and ask if that means he thinks you're exceptional. :rofl:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:09 PM
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8. LOL
:rofl:

I'll do that right away....
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:33 PM
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9. Brilliant!!
:applause:
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:17 PM
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13. That's a great response!
:rofl: No, I've not gotten any PMs like that. That's obnoxious. I'm just getting the rude responses on threads.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:40 PM
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10. These have got to be freepers, and I sure as heck hope they get
banned.

So sorry you've had to endure that. Thankfully, I've not been targeted either.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:59 PM
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11. That has never happened to me, and I'm sorry you're going
through it. Keep alerting on them - there is NO excuse for that!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:48 PM
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12. Yuk. I'm sorry to see you've had to endure that.
I've been relatively quiet for a while around here so I've missed having much of the hatred directed at me.

I hope this jerk has backed off by now.

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:09 PM
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14. I once got a PM threatening me by a guy that posted in the lounge
in old DU.

He registered on a Tuesday..by friday night he was posting, "Hey all you sexy ladies! Post your pics! PM Me...who wants to have cyber sex...etc,,,he posted this shit ad nauseum...so on one of his threads, I posted that his actions were predatory..that there are minors on this site and that he should go to porn sites if he wanted to see sexy women pics...he sent me a couple threatening PM's and was pushing up daisies in short order.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:06 AM
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15. What a piss-ant!
Let's spray him with Raid!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:37 AM
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16. I am entirely shocked I've never been harassed via a PM.
Considering some of the things I've posted on this site...I've been subject to inappropriate "rebukes" in the threads I've posted certain comments in, sure, but based on reading the comments in this thread, I'm totally surprised none of those assholes have come after me with evil mail.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:45 AM
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17. This is the third time...
I guess I piss people off :shrug:

Last week I received a PM accidentally that was meant to go to someone else, and in it were specific insults made about me... by name. Even after responding that the person sent it to me by mistake, I got no response.

Among other things, she called this group a "haven for damaged and angry women who really hate men" ... we are "right out of Soviet Communist cells of the 1940s and '50s" ... most of us are "nothing but the mirror image of those Menstruation Is Murder chicks" and we are a "Lunatic fringe" that will "never speak for women like" her.

It just warmed my heart to get that PM.


:crazy:

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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:01 AM
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18. Uh, yeah. I'm damaged, angry, and I really hate men.
Okay, sure. :eyes:

What a ridiculous thing to say to you. The women that do this, if it is, in fact, a woman writing this, are very threatened arent' they? They see men as powerful, and align themselves with men, in hopes of getting a few scraps and bones from time to time. I guess. It kind of reminds me of poor people who become Republican because they see Republicans as rich and powerful, and think that they too will become rich and powerful simply by becoming an R.

I don't think there are that many women here who actually hate men. Some can take or leave them, some have had awful experiences with men, but not many that actively hate men. At least from what I can tell.

The odd thing about this assertion is that I actually like, really like, men. I enjoy their outlook on things, I like the ways that they are different than women. I actually celebrate the differences between the sexes. Obviously, I cannot abide asshole men who refuse to treat women as equals, but once I'm sure that a man is a true progressive, or at least interested in becoming one, they are okay with me.

It's curious how we come across as man haters because we won't put up with sexist bullshit.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:09 AM
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20. It is curious... Funny thing is, I have always had more men in my life...
than women. I love men, I love men who consider themselves equal to me, I love smart men, I love kind and mature men, I love funny men, I love compassionate men.

Misogynistic and weak and cruel men... I can do without them.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:09 AM
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19. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:10 AM
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21. ...
:spray:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:16 AM
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25. Is THAT who it was?
:rofl:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:17 AM
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26. Yup.
I haven't bothered looking for "it" anywhere at DU, but hopefully "it's" gone. Surprised Bunny? Not me!
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:34 AM
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28. I guess I'm not really surprised at who it was, just more surprised
that people actually send this sort of crap to others in PMs. I've never gotten anything like that in my Inbox, and I'm quite sure I've pissed off a few people around here in my day.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:10 AM
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22. Sounds to me like we've got a freeper trying to stir things up.
Are you sure it was by accident? It might hve been accidently on purpose...
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:12 AM
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23. That's my impression... especially since I never received a response.
It's been my impression that this person is a disruptor for a while... the "accidental" PM, whether intentional or not, pretty much proves it to me.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:40 AM
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29. Btw, that PM was never sent to me directly
I wonder if she accidentally, on purpose, sent that to you to upset folks. Thanks again for forwarding it to me.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:55 AM
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30. That's what I was wondering, cally.
That pretty much decides it, right... that you never received it? It had to have been intentionally sent to me... that way she could AVOID GETTING BANNED For breaking the rules and personally attacking me... while personally attacking me! At least the admins received it :)

Oh....and back to the other person who sent me the notes in my OP... I found out today that he sent at least two people (who I consider friends of mine) IDENTICAL notes in which he called me (and another poster) "major man-haters" and "pieces of shit."

Funny that I inspire such incredible hatred. Well, not funny, disappointing really. Strong, independent, smart and truly progressive men seem to like me fine, so I'm not gonna sweat it.

And you're welcome :hi:
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:06 AM
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31. Well, I think you should see it as a backhanded
compliment. Those who like strong, independent, smart, and progressive women respect and care for you. I'm in this camp. Those that don't, hate you. Take a bow.

I only received the copy from you. I think it was intentionally sent to you. I don't think she ever expected that you would ask me directly about it. I think she was trying to harm me, also.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:13 AM
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32. I agree with you...
If I had not approached you about it, it would have led to an assumption that you and she were in an alliance of sorts, and that you sided with her somehow. Fortunately, I knew from your posts that you would probably not be the kind of person to appreciate the insults that were contained in that PM... so I took a chance that she was just sending it to you out of the blue and banking on the fact that we haven't conversed much. I really didn't consider that it was intentional at the time, but now I'm sure of it.

Good thing that I'm so confrontational. :)

And .... I should thank her now for giving me the opportunity to communicate with you! :yourock:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:16 AM
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33. Kind of fits the description of "disruption" huh?
And ooh, in such an underhanded devious way.

Too bad this group of strong women here have great intuition and can tell when we're being manipulated and pitted against one another.

:party:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:13 AM
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24. In my opinion that person should be banned.
Intentional or not, she/he stirred up shit on a daily basis.

But the hateful attacks on the women in here is a clear rule violation.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:23 AM
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27. Perhaps we need a general sweep of this group to clear out
those starting shit.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:27 AM
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34. deleted out of a modicum of decency
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 11:57 AM by bicentennial_baby
but i will leave this:

dOOd, if you have to SAY you don't hate women, well.... :eyes:

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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:33 AM
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35. Who wrote that piece of crap?
Can you PM me and let me know?
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:54 AM
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36. Also deleted
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 12:00 PM by Misunderestimator
:)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:56 AM
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37. it takes a bit to surprise me...
but this one definitely did...i just tried to be nice...just goes to show, i should stick to my natural icy demeanor :P
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:59 AM
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38. Works for me, obviously!
:P

(This thread should serve as a warning that underhanded sending of notes to fellow feminists trying to pit them against one another is probably not such a good idea.)
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