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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:27 PM
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for those that don't like the B word...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:49 PM
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1. Oh, there are times it comes in handy and is highly appropriate
to both the bitch in question and the situation she provoked.

However, too often it's used by men against any woman who would dare to have an opinion or ambition of her own. That's the complaint about that particular word, and it's a valid one.

In the situation in that post, I've taken my cue from Miss Manners, who is always able to come up with the exquisitely polite phrase to put any bitch or bastard in her or his place. "How very extraordinary that you feel compelled to comment on things that are absolutely none of your business." It's a great phrase to memorize to pull out at the appropriate time and place if you don't look like a damn Barbie doll.

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 02:17 PM
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2. It's equally valid, IMO, when it's women calling other women
bitches. I see no reason for it whatsoever. I ESPECIALLY see no reason for it on a public discussion board. If women can do it, men certainly ought to be entitled. If it's bad that MEN do it, when women do it they normalize and make it "okay" for men to do it.

Please, don't normalize and give permission for the use of sexist language.
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:24 PM
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3. And another...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3946706

I must say since I joined the group I have been looking out for the words but I must be honest and say--it is alerted and brought to the posters attention selectively.IMO

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:34 PM
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5. Bitch and bastard are what the language has given us
and may be used in company that won't tolerate the inclusives, "asshole" or "shithead."

Right now there are few non misogynistic ways to grumble about these people that don't sound either obscene on one end or prissy on the other.

Context is what needs to be considered. I know hard and fast rules may be a little more comfy, but life is messy and some things need to be considered one at a time, together with what may have provoked them, and in light of who is saying them.

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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:37 PM
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7. Agree n/t
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:31 PM
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4. Great phrase,
remember a few years ago when women had t-shirts and necklaces with bitch on them. They were wearing them with pride and honor. I've always been passive and a bit shy. I've been 'good' and 'nice' almost to my detriment. There have been times in my life where I wished I were more of a 'bitch'. I think it is kinda synonymous with strong woman who dares to speak her mind. Although, it's not a flattering comment, because women are supposed to have their 'place', you know on the pedestal, down in the manhole, as viewed from between a pair of mens work boots, so what, only we can give words the power to hurt us. Plus I used the word bitch-slap in a thread today and I might be the next poster hauled down here for execution. Goddess Bless
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 03:36 PM
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6. I wear it like a badge too
and don't worry--no executions are carried out in here.
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