Would someone explain the logic of this to me? (rant)

[geniph]

Women's pants, skirts, jackets, and dresses WITHOUT POCKETS. I HATE this. I cannot begin to express how much I hate this. I do not carry a purse. I hate having anything in my hands, anything that I have to worry about whether or not I'm leaving behind when I get up to go pee or go dance or whatever. Usually, all I carry with me is my keys, my wallet (driver's license and ATM card), and sometimes my sunglasses. I don't want to carry a dang suitcase around with me everywhere. It is most annoying to me when I go out dancing - I want to be able to wear a pretty dress and still get up and dance without a) worrying about leaving a purse at the table, b) having my husband carry my wallet and key for me, or c) dancing with a purse slung around my neck (ugh!). For that, I NEED POCKETS!!! My husband can get up and dance without worrying about that, because HIS CLOTHES HAVE POCKETS!

So what am I supposed to do when my nice dress, swimsuit, business suit, whatever, has NO POCKETS? Am I supposed to put my car keys and change UP MY BUTT? Where do I fasten the clip for a cell phone - to a chain around my neck? This is so stupid! Men's shirts have pockets. Men's jackets not only have pockets, they have an inside chest pocket (the best thing in the world, as far as I'm concerned - why don't women's jackets have them?!). You can't FIND a pair of men's shorts or trousers without pockets. But try to find a skirt with pockets. Just try. Try to find a swimsuit with pockets. Good luck finding a dress with pockets. Even when they do put pockets in women's clothing, the pocket is too small to fit more than, say, a fingernail paring. What the hell is the point of the nanopocket they put on so many women's suit jackets? What am I going to keep in it, a Chiclet?

Cell phones all come with belt clips. Great, if your garments actually can accommodate a belt. Good luck finding women's skirts that can. There's a few, but not in a business suit. So where do I fasten the cell phone on a business suit (and it's when I'm wearing that suit that I'm most likely to be carrying that phone)?

Designers of the world, I curse you. Until you recognize that women, too, would like to be able to go out into the world with just a wallet, keys, chapstick, and cell phone and do not wish to be encumbered with crap hanging off their shoulders or in their hands, I curse you.

"But pockets ruin the line of the garment." Screw the garment. It kind of ruins MY line to walk around with keys up my butt, too.

:mad:

(Oh, and I don't like carrying a fanny pack, either. It's still something you have to worry about forgetting or having someone swipe from you. I carry a fanny pack only if I have to carry more than the aforementioned key, wallet, and chapstick - if I absolutely have to have sunscreen with me, or a water bottle, for example.)

[lukasahero]

1. Excellent rant

Oh silly woman, don't you know you're just supposed to let your man carry things for you? Besides, he should be driving so you don't need keys and what on earth would a little woman like you need to carry money around for - your man should give you money if you ask for something.

Oh, yeah, /:sarcasm:

[geniph]

2. Maybe that's it

I'm supposed to be dependent on him to carry everything.

:eyes:

What's so funny to me is that, because most women do carry purses, I see their husbands hand them everything they don't feel like toting in their pockets - "honey, would you put my glasses/cell phone/circular saw in your purse so I don't have to carry it?" Then they make fun of how large and overstocked women's purses are.

Gah. I think that's half the reason I'm so stubborn about refusing to carry a purse in the first place. I don't want to end up the freaking pack mule. I don't want it assumed that if someone needs a hairbrush, cold medicine, kleenex, gum, crutches, a saucer of milk, I have it in my bag.

[MuseRider]

9. HA!

I quit carrying a purse when I saw a picture taken of my husband and I on the beach. He was prancing around with his arms in the air and I was following along, slumped over under the weight of my purse stuffed with everything under the sun that he thought he might need that day. I mean it must have weighed 10 pounds and the picture confirmed it. So I stopped, no purse ever anymore. I tried once again and before I knew it I was carrying around his spare everything because he is the boyscout type. Now he has learned that he does not need 3 pairs of glasses in case his contacts hurt since if he needs them he has to carry them himself.

[spooky3]

3. Agreed! The worst is "active wear" without pockets.

Where am I supposed to put the tennis balls when I serve? In my purse?

It's as if the manufacturers believe that the only people who buy warmups etc. are 20 year olds who don't really do anything athletic.

If they keep designing them the way they currently are designed, it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I'm not buying any of their sh**.

[geniph]

6. Oh my word, I forgot about sweatpants!

What earthly use are sweatpants without pockets?! Jogging shorts without pockets? What are you supposed to do, keep your car/house key attached to your nipple ring while you're running?

[atommom]

4. This has been a problem for ages. I can still remember my Aunt

Mary's rants about the lack of pockets in women's clothing, back when I was a small child. We need someone like her to design a realistic line of clothing! ;)

I have it easy at the moment, clothing-wise. I can wear shorts and jeans most of the time, and those do have pockets. But the moment I have to dress up, I have to get the damned purse out again, knowing that soon it will be full of cellphones, Matchbox cars, and other heavy debris. :eyes:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

5. I was delighted to find that the TravelSmith tropical blazer

has one of those nifty inside pockets.

TravelSmith clothing in general has more pockets than the average garment. Unfortunately, it's also more expensive than the average garment.

[cally]

12. Almost all their clothes have pockets

that actually close so things don't fall out of them. I'm lucky because they have an incredible outlet sale near me once a year. I buy most of my pants there other than jeans because they have pockets!! I bought this incredible jacket that has 4 long inside pockets. It's too big for me now but I still wear it because of the pockets. I love this jacket. They do have sale items on their website. Not as discounted as the outlet sale but less than full price.

[geniph]

7. Tell you one thing,

if they started taking the pockets out of men's clothes, you'd see the designers going out of business pretty damn quick. I can't see men tolerating the designers dictating to them that they're not allowed to have pockets in their clothing. Why do we tolerate this? How do we get it through their thick heads that we want to be able to wear a suit and still have a wallet pocket inside the jacket, and have a belt to clip a cell phone to?

I suppose I could just buy men's trouser suits and have them fitted, but unfortunately I'm too small. I'd have to buy boys' suits, which don't tend to be very well made. Although, come to think of it, most women's clothing is pretty cheaply made too. I'm always ecstatic to find a pair of women's dress trousers tailored like a man's, with a lined waistband and properly finished seams. I guess they're assuming women get rid of clothes before the seams fray and the fabric pills. But some of us keep clothes longer than a season!

Granted, I do replace underwear and socks MUCH more frequently than my husband does...

[Warpy]

8. Pockets are SO EASY to add!

Either add them at the side seam line or as big patch pockets on the front of the garment. If you can't match the material, get something that really contrasts. Those BIG LOUD patch pockets will look like a designer touch to the uninitiated. You don't have to be a great seamstress to do it, either.

I agree, fashion designers who think pockets will ruin the silhouette of their wonderful design are complete and total assholes who don't know how real women live and function. Either that, or they financed art school as purse snatchers.

Pockets are the first thing I look for when I'm buying clothing. I've still been known to add patch pockets if the side seam pockets are skimpy.

I suppose pocketless clothing in the 50s was OK. Women lived in aprons, and THOSE had POCKETS!

[Kenneth ken]

10. nice rant!

and other comments in this thread - you make me :rofl:

circular saw
crutches
nipple ring

nice imagery :7

sorry that clothing for women is designed/manufactured so empty-headedly.

[noamnety]

11. My Army uniform had that problem!

I hope they've changed it since I was in, but the class B's (the dress uniform) had one pocket that was about large enough for chapstick. Because there are no pockets, the army issues a purse for you.

That's just grand. I suppose if I head out to a war, I'm expected to beat an attacking insurgent over the head with my pocketbook, a la Ruth Buzzy.

I ended up using my socks as my wallet - you can fit a fair amount of credit cards and cash in there. I didn't think of putting things up my butt - I bow to your superior problem solving skills.

[geniph]

15. I am still LOL over that pocketbook line

I can just see you in your dress uniform, whaling away on an enemy combatant with a pocketbook! (Hey, one of my sisters carries a .38 in hers, you could do some DAMAGE whacking somebody with HER purse!)

I must clarify, I do not actually carry my car keys in the manner specified. That would be...unsanitary. :D

[efhmc]

13. I love and need pockets. I use pockets for all types of things.

I love the freedom of going out the door in my jeans with my cash, driver's license and credit card tucked into my pockets. I feel so free and unrestricted. When I work at the ranch, I always wear overalls (shorts ones in the summer) because they are comfy and because they have pockets to store screws and seeds and trash and almonds to munch. I need POCKETS!!!

[Vladimir]

14. Quality rant n/t

[MuseRider]

16. It is also a safety issue.

I NEVER carry anything with me when shopping. Too many times women get their purses grabbed and end up getting hurt in the process. I am sure someone could also assume you are carrying your valuables in your pocket but it is a little more difficult to get in your pockets and get away than it is to just run by and grab your purse.

You do know don't you that pockets with stuff in them just ruin the look of your figure. :sarcasm:

[geniph]

17. The whole purse-theft thing is partly why I won't carry one

I think making yourself a target by having something easy to grab that obviously has your money, wallet, keys, and other valuables in it on your person is just asking for trouble. I try to make myself look an unattractive target - I HAVE NOTHING WORTH STEALING AND I WILL YELL BLOODY MURDER AND KICK YOUR BUTT IN THE BARGAIN is my whole public persona. ;-)

[Cerridwen]

18. Thank you! Been bugging me for years!

And if I may add, why the hell are women's wallets designed so bulky; I have to buy "men's" wallets to get a nice little flat thing to hold my driver's license, atm card, medical benefits card and some folding money. As you can tell, I don't carry 27 freaking things in my wallet!
After years of searching, I finally found a nice smallish wallet to carry those few things with a coin pocket included; nice, flat, compact, will attach to my belt; if I had anything which I could add a belt to!

Also, can anyone explain to me why our clothes are designed and sold by *size* rather than measurements! A size 10 at Target sure looks different than a size 10 at a designer outlet. And even the sizes within Target will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. I never know what size I am. Why are petite and women's sizes priced more than misses sizes? Another marketing ploy? If women's clothes were sold by measurement they'd have to cut that out! Maybe.

Would women buy clothes based on measurement?

And don't get me started about women's shoe sizes!

And color choices!

/rant