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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 06:39 AM
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Race speech - kinda tanked - poll
Of those who knew about the controversy and the speech, we asked, “Taking all this into account, are you more or less likely to support Obama for president?”

Less likely (52%)
More likely (19%)
About the same (27%)
No opinion (2%)

Democrats disapproved 48% to 28%, which looks sobering for Obama on first glance, but might portend otherwise. If blacks irritated by Obama’s remarks will return to the fold, than impressing whites is probably a more vital read on the numbers. And Democratic whites were more sympathetic with the speech’s message than black ones.

The disturbing numbers for Obama are the independent voters. By 56% to 13%, they said they’re less likely to vote for him because of the speech.

“But there’s no way around the numbers as they read all across the board. They are consistent in every demographic we measured. Most people didn’t have a gut positive reaction to Obama’s speech,”
http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/storylink_320_294.aspx
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:34 AM
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1. white people aren't interested in addressing 350 years of black anger
Edited on Sat Mar-22-08 09:35 AM by Herman Munster
I think we're headed for another mondale loss if Obama wins the nomination.

It won't be pretty but on the bright side I look at Hillary coming to the rescue in 2012 bringing the party out of the shambles.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 09:36 AM
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2. How can that be when he gave
the best speech in history? ;-)
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:05 AM
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3. Isn't that interesting? Clearly, this speech resonates loudly with academics...
...with their distance from real lives and real problems - the economy, health care, etc.. I'm not sure what the longterm effects of this speech are going to be, but why didn't the 'liberal media' bother to point out very basic contradictions in the speech versus BO's pronouncements beforehand - didn't know of controversial sermons in previous interviews, then says he did in the speech. For starters. This race issue is not going to rest, and BO didn't really give much help in showing listeners HOW to get beyond race. To the contrary, his subsequent ill-advised comments add fuel to the fire.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 10:58 PM
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4. Academics? Try - shills - for whatever reasons - none of them is impartial on this
This speech was not judged on its merits by any of the loud mouths in the media.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-22-08 11:02 PM
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5. this dude has some serious issues
Quotes from his book “Dreams of My Father”.

“I ceased to advertise my Mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

“I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my Mother’s race.”

“The emotion between the races could never be pure…..the other race (speaking of the white race) would always remain just that: Menacing, Alien, and Apart.”

“Never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was my Father’s image, the Black man, the son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself.”

“That hate hadn’t gone away”, he wrote, blaming the white race, - “some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.”

Speaking of the Blacks while he attended college in his book he says: “There were enough of us on campus to constitute a tribe.”


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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 05:27 PM
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6. So he wanted to emulate the father who abandoned him?
Serious issues, extremely poor judgment and extreme lack of common sense:crazy: :dunce:
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RedShoesBlueState Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:41 PM
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7. Good Gawd!
We're doomed. Even if those quotes are taken out of context (which is exactly what Republicans will do in the Fall if he's the candidate), there is no way that working class white Americans in a tanking economy will ever support a candidate of color who expresses such sentiments. The fact that so many Democratic primary voters don't "get" that is absolutely maddening. I'm watching any hope for a Democrat in the White House go spiraling down the drain.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:15 PM
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8. Oh this speech was easy for the whoremedia and far left folks
to pronounce this as the best speech ever. Wonder why? Maybe because in this speech they knew obama had lied about being present while his pastor was preaching vile, and bile. The lie is still being not reported and I post the lie here so that it may help when you encounter an obama supporter who tells you he never lied about being in attendance.

a closer look at the Barack Obama speech on race and found curious discrepancies from past positions.Obama said the only thing controversial he knew about Rev. Wright was his stand on issues relating to Africa, abortion and gay marriage. …

His initial reaction to the initial ABC News broadcast of Rev. Wright’s sermons denouncing the U.S. was that he had never heard his pastor of 20 years make any comments that were anti-U.S. until the tape was played on air.

Last Tuesday, he told a different story. “Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes,” he said in his speech last Tuesday in Philadelphia.

Obama contradicts a year of denial of saying he had nevr been present when wright went anti everything not black.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:10 PM
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9. Just remembered: the last time a speech has been hyped so over the top: W after 9.11
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 06:11 PM by robbedvoter
When you see this much of a kiss-up from MSM, there's trouble to be covered.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 05:44 AM
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10. That idiotic bull horn speech? The "Can ya hear me now?" bullshit?
He was so "heroic" standing on the rubble, with the "littlest fireman" (an old retired guy who went down there to help; who was hired before they had height standards for firemen) beside him to make him look like a BIGGER fellah...

Creepyass baaastid:

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:27 AM
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11. I have the same article on GD-P..
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