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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:33 PM
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Is it IBS, or is it a sensitivity to high fructose?
Recently, I had some troubling symptoms and was quite ill.
I normally drink Diet Rite sodas since it does not have aspertame, but had developed a sugar craving.
I began to drink "regular" soda for the sugar kick and as a substitute for the coffee I had to give up.

At my wit's end, I endlessly searched the internet for a clue as to what was going on.
I found a lone person who mentioned that "pop" with the high fructose aggravated her condition.
I checked the ingredients on the bottle and there it was...high fructose.
I stopped drinking it, and the nasty symptoms disappeared.

Chocolate had been the first thing that began these symptoms, and when I checked a bottle of chocolate syrup in my fridge, the very first ingredient was HIGH FRUCTOSE.

A few days ago, I had some ginger ale, and you can guess what ensued.

I will be reading labels more closely as it apparently can be in candy, baked goods, etc.

I hope this information might help someone else reading this.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 12:59 AM
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1. People with IBS/Spastic Colon Have Heard It All!
I have Crohn's in the terminal ilieum and spastic colon (sometimes called IBS, but I have demonstrated hypermotility). I've often said the only food that dioesn't bother me is food I only look at! High fructose corn syrup doesn't bother me any, but *all* carbonated beverages are well-known trigger for a lot of people with functional bowel problems.
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wackadoo wabbit Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 07:18 AM
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2. It may be neither; it may be lectins
Read Eat Right 4 Your Type; it explains it all. I'm not going to be able to do justice to D'Adamo's premise tonight (too late, and I've had too much to drink), but, basically, certain foods have terminal sugars on them that are identical to the terminal sugars on the different ABO blood types. When a person with one blood type eats a food that has the sugar of another blood type, it can cause problems and, especially, gastroenterological ones.

I had terrible GERD, to the point where I was on Prilosec daily. Then I read the book, omitted the most egregious lectin-containing foods for AB blood types (one of which, by the way, is corn), and my GERD disappeared. It's been years now, and the only time I have any GI problems at all is when I eat an "avoid" food.

Corn is a particularly nasty food to have as an "avoid," since it's in so many products in this country. Besides the ubiquitous high fructose corn syrup (which is in just about everything), corn starch is also a common food additive.

Just out of curiosity, what's your ABO type?
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:36 PM
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3. ABO type
If that is the same as blood type, I am A positive.

The problem did not develop until about 6 months ago.
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wackadoo wabbit Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 06:54 AM
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4. Could be lectins, could also be an allergy
I just checked the status of corn for A blood types (the Rh factor doesn't matter when it comes to lectins): If you're a nonsecretor, corn is indeed an "avoid." It's a "neutral" for secretors, though. So without knowing your secretor status, it's hard to say if it's lectins causing your problem or not.

The fact that this is late onset doesn't at all preclude its being due to lectins. I grew up living on Sugar-Frosted Flakes, Doritos, and niblets corn - and, as an AB blood type, corn is a definite "avoid" for me. But it wasn't until I got into my 40s that it began to start causing some serious problems.

As I was writing this, it occurred to me that there's another possible explanation for your symptoms: What you have might be a recently acquired allergy. My husband, for example, just within the past year developed a terrible allergy to bananas (even though, as an O blood type, bananas are not "avoids" for him). Although he happily ate bananas for decades, now when he eats one he gets terrible gastroenterological cramping that lasts for close to 24 hours. (It's probably because he also has a latex allergy - although he's had that allergy for years - and apparently bananas and latex are closely related.)

If you're motivated, there are tests you can buy that will tell you your secretor status (they cost about $40-$50).

Or you could follow the easier and cheaper method and just stay away from corn!

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:49 AM
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5. Save Your Money - Those Tests Are Bogus
Those "food allergy" tests by mail are good for one thing only - making other people rich. They have no science behind them at all.

A food allergy is itching, rashes, swelling and/or trouble breathing. Digestive problems after eating is classed as a senstivity.

Most human beings, regardless of blood type, have trouble digesting corn - as a quick trip down memory lane to third grade bathroom humor about "corn dogs" will remind you!
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wackadoo wabbit Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 05:39 AM
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7. I did not say anything about a food allergy test, I referred to a secretor
status test; that is, a test to determine if one is a secretor or a nonsecretor. Please reread my post.

The two tests have absolutely nothing in common.

The science behind secretor status tests is well established. Before DNA testing, secretor status tests were used to rule rape suspects in or out.

As for most humans having trouble digesting corn, that's not surprising considering that corn is an "avoid" for all blood types except A secretors.


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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:13 AM
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9. Secretor Only Indicates If You Secrete ABO Markers in Body Fluids, Period
A non-secretor wouldn't have ABO markers in their mucus/seminal fluid/etc - it tells you nothing about whether or not you're "allergic" to anything.

You want to throw your money away on those things - fine, but please don't advise others to do so or represent it as genuine medical advice (which is not allowed on this forum, anyway).
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wackadoo wabbit Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 07:58 AM
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11. I know! Please reread my posts!
If you do, you'll see that I never said anything about secretor status having anything to do with allergies! What I said was that Digit's problem might be 1) due to lectins (in which case, assuming she were curious, she could get a secretor status test to confirm her secretor status, as those with blood type A who are secretors shouldn't have a lectin problem with corn), OR 2) due to allergies. These are two entirely unrelated conditions.

If your car wouldn't turn over one morning, and your neighbor said that it might be due to a bad starter or it might be because of a blockage in the fuel system, would you assume that those are the same problem? That appears to be what you're doing here.

Geez, I never understood why the SAT and GRE have reading comprehension on their tests - before now.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:16 AM
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14. Uh-Huh
So, after diagnosing "allergies" that can't exist and recommending a diet based on blood type, you're making the reading comprehension jokes? Oh, the irony!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:23 PM
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8. What REP said
plus a true allergic reaction can be confirmed by a differential blood count, which will show marked eosinophilia if there is a true allergy. (In English, a rise in a type of white blood cells called eosinophils)

Digestive upset is no indicator of allergy.

If you think a food upsets your tummy or lower GI tract, avoid it. You don't need an allergist or silly theories about blood types to know what your problem is. Just eliminating a suspect food for a couple of weeks and then trying it again will give you all the answer you need.

As for the idea that no one can properly digest corn, that's only partly true. We can't digest the tough cellulose kernel wall. We digest the inner part of the kernel just fine. That tough kernel wall provides bulk, though, and that is a good thing, even though it looks weird if we're interested in looking at what comes out the next day.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:15 AM
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10. Well, Not "No One"
But corn is one of the more difficult things for *most* humans to digest! If I was too general in my generalization, my fault!
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 11:55 PM
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12. Not true in regards to gastrointestinal symptoms
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 12:04 AM by Susang
GI upset can be an indicator of the presence of a food allergy. The difference between food intolerence and food allergy is the immune response involvement. Your immune system can choose to attack whatever part of your body it likes and often does, particularly in women. tThere are tests to determine whether the immune system is involved, GI symptoms or not.



1. What is a food allergy?

A food allergy is an immune system response to a food that the body mistakenly believes is harmful. Once the immune system decides that a particular food is harmful, it creates specific antibodies to it. The next time the individual eats that food, the immune system releases massive amounts of chemicals, including histamine, in order to protect the body. These chemicals trigger a cascade of allergic symptoms that can affect the respiratory system, gastrointestinal tract, skin, or cardiovascular system. Scientists estimate that approximately 11 million Americans suffer from true food allergies.

http://www.foodallergy.org/questions.html

http://www.foodallergy.org/allergens/index.html



Tips to Remember: What is an Allergic Reaction?

~snip~

Foods and other allergens, including penicillin, insect stings and latex, can trigger a severe, systemic allergic reaction called anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is caused by swelling throughout the body, and can involve several organ systems. Symptoms of anaphylaxis include a feeling of warmth, flushing, tingling in the mouth or a red, itchy rash. Other symptoms may include feelings of light-headedness, shortness of breath, severe sneezing, anxiety, stomach or uterine cramps, and/or vomiting and diarrhea. In severe cases, patients may experience a drop in blood pressure that results in a loss of consciousness and shock. Without immediate treatment with an injection of epinephrine (adrenalin), anaphylaxis may be fatal.

http://www.aaaai.org/patients/publicedmat/tips/whatisallergicreaction.stm


~Susang (allergic to red peppers)

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:12 AM
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13. Sort Of
Food Allergy and Intolerance

Food allergy is reproducible symptoms occurring after ingestion of a specific food and for which an immunologic basis (IgE antibodies to the food) is proved. Food intolerance involves clinical GI reactions in which the mechanism is not immunologic or is not known.

Many common (probably psychophysiologic) adverse food reactions are attributed to food allergy when no convincing cause-and-effect evidence exists, at least of the type of allergy that can be evaluated by skin tests and is associated with specific IgE antibodies to foods. Certain claims are controversial and almost surely untrue; eg, that intolerance (or allergy) to food or food additives can be responsible for hyperactive children, the tension-fatigue syndrome, and enuresis. Unsubstantiated claims blame food allergy for arthritis, obesity, suboptimal athletic performance, and depression, among other conditions.

Occasionally, cheilitis, aphthae, pylorospasm, spastic constipation, pruritus ani, and perianal eczema have been attributed to food allergy or intolerance, but the association is difficult to prove. Recently, food intolerance was found to be responsible for symptoms of some patients with the irritable bowel syndrome, confirmed by double-blind food challenge. An increase in rectal prostaglandin levels was noted when a reaction occurred. Preliminary information suggests that the same phenomenon may take place occasionally in patients with chronic ulcerative colitis.

Eosinophilic enteropathy, which may be related to specific food allergy, is an unusual illness involving pain, cramps, and diarrhea associated with blood eosinophilia, eosinophilic infiltrates in the gut, protein-losing enteropathy, and a history of atopic disease. Rarely, dysphagia occurs, indicating esophageal involvement.

True IgE-mediated food allergy usually develops in infancy, most often in those with a strong family history of atopy.

Symptoms and Signs

The first manifestation may be eczema (atopic dermatitis) alone or in association with GI symptoms. By the end of the first year, dermatitis usually has lessened and allergic respiratory symptoms may develop. Asthma and allergic rhinitis can be aggravated by allergy to foods that can be identified by skin testing. However, as the child grows, foods become less important, and he reacts increasingly to inhaled allergens. By the time the child with asthma and hay fever is 10 yr old, it is rare for a food to provoke respiratory symptoms, even though positive skin tests persist. If atopic dermatitis persists or appears in the older child or adult, its activity seems to be largely independent of IgE-mediated allergy, even though atopic patients with extensive dermatitis have much higher IgE levels in the serum than those who are free of dermatitis.

Most young food-allergic patients are sensitive to potent allergens (eg, allergens in eggs, milk, peanuts, and soy). Older people may react violently to ingesting even a trace of such foods and other foods (especially shellfish), experiencing explosive urticaria, angioedema, and even anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis may occur in patients with a lower level of sensitivity only if they exercise after eating the offending food.

Milk intolerance is sometimes caused by an intestinal disaccharidase deficiency and is expressed by GI symptoms (see also Carbohydrate Intolerance in Ch. 30). In other patients, milk causes GI and even respiratory symptoms for no known reason. Food additives can produce systemic symptoms (monosodium glutamate); asthma (metabisulfite, tartrazine--a yellow dye); and possibly urticaria (tartrazine). These reactions are not caused by IgE antibodies. A few patients suffer from food-induced or aggravated migraine, confirmed by blinded oral challenge.

Digestion effectively prevents food allergy symptoms in most adults. This is illustrated by allergic patients who react on inhalation or contact but not on ingestion of an allergen (eg, in baker's asthma, the affected workers wheeze on exposure to flour dust and have positive skin tests to wheat and/or other grains, yet have no problem eating grain products).

Diagnosis

Severe food allergy is usually obvious in adults. When it is not, or in most children, diagnosis may be difficult and the condition must be differentiated from functional GI problems.

In persons suspected of having reactions to foods after eating, the relationship of symptoms to foods is first tested by appropriate skin tests. A positive test does not prove clinically relevant allergy, but a negative test rules it out. With a positive skin test, clinically relevant sensitivity can be determined by an elimination diet and, if symptoms improve, by reexposure to the food to determine if it can induce symptoms. All positive challenges should be followed by a double-blind challenge to be considered definitive. The basic diet is determined by eliminating foods suspected by the patient of causing symptoms or by prescribing a diet composed of relatively nonallergenic foods (see Table 148-3).

Foods that commonly cause allergy are milk, eggs, shellfish, nuts, wheat, peanuts, soybeans, and all products containing one or more of these ingredients. Most common allergens and all suspected foods must be eliminated from the starting diet. No foods or fluids may be consumed other than those specified in the starting diet. Eating in restaurants is not advisable, since the patient (and physician) must know the exact composition of all meals. Pure products must always be used; eg, ordinary rye bread contains some wheat flour.

If no improvement occurs after 1 wk, another diet should be tried. If symptoms are relieved, one new food is added and more than the usual amount is eaten for > 24 h or until symptoms recur. Alternatively, small amounts of the food to be tested are eaten in the physician's presence, and the patient's reactions observed. Aggravation or recrudescence of symptoms after the addition of a new food is the best evidence of allergy. Such evidence should be verified by noting the effect of removing that food from the diet for several days, then restoring it.

Treatment

The only treatment is eliminating the offending food. Elimination diets can be used for both diagnosis and treatment. When only a few foods are involved, abstinence is preferred. Sensitivity to one or more foods may disappear spontaneously. Oral desensitization (by first eliminating the offending food for a time and then giving small, daily increased amounts) has not been proved effective nor has the use of sublingual drops of food extracts. Antihistamines are of little value except in acute general reactions with urticaria and angioedema. Oral cromolyn has been used with apparent success in other countries, but the oral form is approved for use in the USA only for mastocytosis (see below). Prolonged glucocorticoid treatment is not indicated except in symptomatic eosinophilic enteropathy.

For treatment of the severe, potentially fatal acute attack, see Anaphylaxis, below.

http://www.merck.com/mrkshared/CVMHighLight?file=/mrkshared/mmanual/section12/chapter148/148b.jsp%3Fregion%3Dmerckcom&word=food%20allergy&domain=www.merck.com#hl_anchor
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-01-06 02:00 AM
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16. I said it can be
Not that it always is. Your link actually agrees with me, especially when you read further down into the anaphylaxis symptoms section.

Not trying to be difficult, it's just important to me that people realize the a food allergy can involve GI symptoms as well as the others. Mine did and was misdiagnosed for years. The fact that I also had IBS didn't help matters. I would eat the food I was allergic to, experience an allergic reaction and since the symptoms were similar to what I often experience when I have an attack of IBS (flushing, tingling, heart palpitations, nausea, cramping, vomiting). It took a rather knowledgable and experienced doctor at Northwestern to send me to an immunologist.

As it turned out, I was allergic to several foods and some unexpected ones at that. I would have never been tested if my doctor had followed the prevailing wisdom that food allergies don't cause GI distress. I'm pretty grateful to him for that.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 03:53 AM
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6. *All* Sugar Makes *All* Diarrhea Worse, Too
Besides carbonated sodas being a common trigger for those with IBS, anything high in sugar can make diarrhea worse. "High fructose corn syrup" is modified corn syrup that is high in fructose, which is a form of sugar (anything ending in "ose" is a sugar, like lactose, sucrose, etc).
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:34 PM
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15. I have been making kool aid using real sugar with no problems
Also, no problems with Splenda.

I would test one more time, but still vividly recall drinking some ginger ale with HFCS and had horrible cramping, etc hours afterwards....then a week later, a glazed donut brought on symptoms.

I REALLY don't want a repeat!
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