KOEB 11/11/05: Fridays were made for the Newsquiz Edition

[Patsy Stone]

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

1. Noooo, the Dems didn't know the intelligence was FAKE!

A-hole! And, bite me, Bill O'Lielly!

[SharonRB]

2. Shabbat Shalom, Patsela

Bush just called us irresponsible. That's the pot calling the kettle black.

[Patsy Stone]

8. It's projection

just another symptom of his psychosis. There's also the false statement that just because the Dems went along with it, it should be okay with us irresponsible anti-war people. If the facts were fake, and they agreed with the facts as presented, that doesn't change the fact that the facts were FAKE! A logical fallacy. Moran!

[Berry Cool]

3. You said it, Patsela!

Shalom Shazbot Shazam!

Time to put the brisket in the basket!

[Berry Cool]

5. Hi Sharon and Patsela and the Hole Gang

:hi: or is it the Whoell Gang?

Or the Knothole Gang?

Responsibilities may cause me to cut out early without notice. But I am here for now. This is a recording.

[Patsy Stone]

4. I am not irresponsible

I am against your fake war, CCB. I am not rewriting history. You made this up because you wanted it so badly, you were gonna get it no matter what.

Hey, Shrub, the election is OVER! Leave Kerry alone!

[Berry Cool]

6. I'm not irresponsible either

which is why I may be distracted tonight...and not just by Keith's disarming good looks.

[Patsy Stone]

18. He does look particularly good tonight

:loveya:

Hey, Berry! :hi:

Lovin' Craig. Always a voice of reason and a great cynic in the grand tradition.

[RevCheesehead]

7. Let him squawk....

Scooter's gonna be singing a different tune, methinks.

Hi, all! :hi:

I see lotsa blue on Keith - spotlights? :loveya:

[Berry Cool]

10. Well, isn't it long past time

they put him in the spotlight?

[Patsy Stone]

14. Hey, Rev!

Nice to see you this fine evening. :hi:

[bleever]

9. The Dems saw the same info. The just didn't see all the

contradictory stuff you crooks held back, or know that the evidence you gave us was known to be crap.

:mad:


Oh... :hi: everyone!

Happy Friday! Shabbat Shazzam!

[SharonRB]

11. CC looks pretty hot tonight

Love his outfit.

[Patsy Stone]

12. It's Craig!

"It was almost like they were talking to themselves." LOL!

[RevCheesehead]

13. Hey! What happened to the icons?

I thought they were - iconoclastic - holy - never to be changed!

[SharonRB]

15. Check out Skinner's thread on the greatest page

He redecorated.

[RevCheesehead]

17. It smacks of Yahoo.

Oh well - at least we have the clubhouse.

[bleever]

16. LOL! "Liar poll numbers". I could hug Keef.

But I'm afraid I'd get trampled in a stampede.

:)

[Patsy Stone]

20. The line is long, my friend.

Hope you brought refreshments. :hi:

Oh, no! He did not use Pigpen to describe KKKarl. Poor Pigpen.

[RevCheesehead]

24. Didn't we feature Pigpen back on Halloween?

I'm calling it another shoutout. :)

[Patsy Stone]

36. I'll go with that

I think he likes us. :)

[bleever]

28. I'm starting here:

:hi:

And Pigpen is a MUCH better human than KKKRove, even though he isn't even real.

[Patsy Stone]

33. Hey, I've eaten at Gordon Biersch

Good garlic cheese fries.

I'm starting here:


And love the fake war/real war snark I just heard: "We think those are two different things." I'd be laughing if so many people hadn't died already because of that BS.

Lovin' O'Lielly's rant. How 'bout you? Best part of that story was the person who asked, "Who's Bill O'Reilly again?" :rofl:

ed: punc.

[SharonRB]

35. He is so the worst person tonight

He's gone way off the deep end this time.

[Patsy Stone]

37. What a maroon.

It's a shame that Pat Robertson was made a permanent member, because he really deserved it yesterday.

[SharonRB]

42. I missed him being named a permanent member

On another thread I thought it might be him tonight.

[Patsy Stone]

47. He mentioned it as a preemptive "Shhh!" last night

right before he began that segment. :)

[bunny planet]

98. They should rescind his permanent membership because he's going to

be the worst person in the world poster boy whenever he opens his mouth.
He is riding the bus aaaaaaall the way to crazytown isn't he?

[Patsy Stone]

105. It's a car wreck I can't help but rubberneck and look at when I pass by.

If I had a stronger stomach, I'd make it a point to watch him daily. :)

[bleever]

53. Bill O'Reilly is reaching new heights of ass-holiness.

As the Chron pointed out, if they bomb Coit tower they'll mostly kill foreign tourists and suburban visitors.

And that fake war/real war snark was great.

Clinky, Pats.

[Patsy Stone]

57. Clinky!

I read that article. I smiled all the way through.

[CBHagman]

96. There is no holiness in THAT ass.

There's bad, and then there's Personal Ring of Hell Bad. Guess where Falafel Man and Robertson are...

[Patsy Stone]

109. In Satan's left hand?

Being chewed intermittently while * and Hitler and Judas are in the other?

[SharonRB]

19. Karl Pigpen Rove

:ROFL:

[WolverineDG]

23. poor pigpen

dg

[Patsy Stone]

25. That's what I said

Pigpen doesn't deserve that. Hi, you!

[WolverineDG]

41. hey there

hiya pats! :hi:

yep, ko looks good tonight. :loveya:

dg

[Patsy Stone]

49. :)

I still think this is a brown suit.

[SharonRB]

52. So do I

[Patsy Stone]

56. Which, unfortunately,

still doesn't go with the purple tie. Yet, he overcomes bad color combinations.

[WolverineDG]

94. hey sharon!

:hi:

dg

[SharonRB]

101. Hey, DG

How are you doing tonight? Still haven't heard from SJBech.

[WolverineDG]

115. i'm doing pretty good

despite the apparent color-blindness. :) sorry you haven't heard from her. :( maybe she'll call tomorrow?

dg

[SharonRB]

119. We'll be in Ann Arbor all day -- we leave at 9 or 9:30 and don't

get back until late afternoon. She has my cell, too, though, so hopefully she'll catch me at some point. Maybe she wound up not coming in for some reason.

[WolverineDG]

59. looks gray to me

but i'll go back & look again.
btw, no i can't distinguish navy blue & black either.
dg

[Patsy Stone]

21. Three GD threads about KO already.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5337731
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5337777
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5337728

[Catchawave]

95. I counted 8 !

Too lazy to drag the other 5 over here :hi: kids :loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

97. I did see more

Some were just references to stories KO was doing without mentioning him by name. It was the timing that gave 'em away. Hi, Catch!

[Catchawave]

118. LOL...I was just counting KO threads...

there were MORE??? :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

139. Yepper

There were a few correctly timed O'Lielly and Santorum threads too. What else can ya say but DU loves him? :loveya:

[SharonRB]

103. Hi, Catch!

How are you doing tonight?

[Catchawave]

121. Great, thankee :)))

I'm getting psyched about a KOEB meet-up in Joisey :) I will definitely let everyone know who I AM this time :hi:

[SharonRB]

123. Good -- I still can't believe you were in DC and didn't come up

and introduce yourself.

[Catchawave]

126. After you guys posted your DC pictures....

I sure remembered talking to ya'll :grouphug:

[CC]

22. Hi all

Here a least partly, in between jumping up and down, shouting for joy because Keith is on and kicking butt. Plus I get to see it live.

Love the Karl Pigpen Rove specially since it was dirt that followed pigpen, not a gloomy cloud. Fit even better.

[RevCheesehead]

26. Hi, Ferretessa!

Nice to see ya in real time! :hi:

[CC]

32. Its nice to be here real

time. Going to get worse before it gets better work wise though.

[Patsy Stone]

34. Hey, CC!

Nice to see you here in real time, and you even get Craig!

[CC]

39. Hi Patsy

Real time is so much better than tape though tape is better than nothing. But I waste a large part of Saturday watching a weeks worth of Keith, Jon and now have to tape the Corbett Report. (Not sure if I spelled it right)

[Patsy Stone]

44. I hear ya

At the end of the week I have a tape of all the stuff I want to watch that's on either during KO, or right after. Jon I watch at 11, and I've yet to see a full episode of the Colbert Report.

[CC]

48. Good you could spell it and

it is great. But I only know because of tape. I don't do mornings well so after a hello and attention to the zoo crew I head to bed.

[Patsy Stone]

27. How could the Dems have had the same intelligence

if they were making it up as they went along? Go, Richard Sale! That's so correct, no one would have had the same information.

KO, mentioning the forged Niger documents and the bad German intelligence. Just one more reason you rock, KO.

:loveya:

[bleever]

29. How come no one mentions that Curveball is Chalabi's nephew?

Did I just dream it?


::crazy:

[RevCheesehead]

30. You mean Tweety?

:rofl:

[bleever]

62. Okay: a Google search's top two results are DU posts.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22chalabi%27s+nephew%22&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official



:)



ed: linky

[SharonRB]

31. This movie is going to be great

[RevCheesehead]

38. re: cellphone bandit...

Why do the tellers give her money?
* Isn't the glass bulletproof?
* Don't they know how to duck?
* Doesn't anyone look at the security cameras anymore?

[Patsy Stone]

40. Hey, KO?

What happened to the Abramoff story from yesterday? I want it, I need it.

Here's another KO thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5337889

[RevCheesehead]

43. I want to see the furry heated bras.

Or did he do that last night?

[Patsy Stone]

51. Last night

and mentioned a degree in "Braology". :)

[RevCheesehead]

76. Is this where I ask Keith if he'd like to earn a doctorate....

and get lost in his studies? :evilgrin:

[Patsy Stone]

81. Yep

Although Berry may beat you to the offer. :)

[bleever]

131. This whole conversation gives new meaning to the notion of

having full access to the stacks.


:)

[RevCheesehead]

Bwahahaha!

File that in aisle "DD," please. :rofl:

[bleever]

148. DD, for Dewey Decimal, right?

Library geek humor.



:rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

153. Who's Dewey?

And is it anything like Liquid Sparky?

[bleever]

155. Obviously, if he's Dewey, he part liquid.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9030189

Melvin Dewey, actually.

[RevCheesehead]

156. You disappoint, Bleev....

I gave you a great set-up, and that's all you have? :(

[bleever]

158. Excuuuuuuuuuse me!!!

Maybe you wanna think it's easy beating your wife and drinking away your children's milk money while posting humorous yet incisive comments on a political discussion board, while living near a city that O'Reilly has asked al Qaeda to blow up.

You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it may be.


(And how did I blow your straight line?)

[RevCheesehead]

159. O God - it's the O'Leilly Factor!

my line:
"Who's Dewey, and is it (he) anything like Liquid Sparky?"

C'mon. Climb down to the gutter. It's nice here. :evilgrin:

[Berry Cool]

163. Rev, I'll see your Ds

and raise you a third. LOL.

Keith, feel free to bury yourself in your studies anytime. :loveya:

[Berry Cool]

162. Agh. I *did* have to cut out. Trying to watch and work...didn't work.

But now that I finally have leisure to say it...let me say that Keith would *always* be welcome to my library.

Come on in, Keith. Please note the building is made out of solid brick.

[SharonRB]

45. Did he not do it yesterday?

I was in and out of the room during the second half of the show, watching Will & Grace.

[bunny planet]

46. I'm watching. Hello there Chicas and the botanists who love them.

Some observations before I go upstairs to watch KO clobber Falafelhead.
Craig Crawford is my favorite guest. He's such a nice guy, had a great suit and tie and shirt today.

KO loves Jackie Chan!!!!!!! Me too, another reason to love KO, as if I needed one.

Bush's Veteran's Day Speech........
:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

He is disgraceful, still lying, every time he opens his mouth. I HATE HIM. Chimpeachment can't come soon enough.

[SharonRB]

50. I agree about Craig tonight, Bunny

I loved his shirt and tie and suit.

Chimpeachment! :rofl:

[bleever]

78. Hi bunny. I think we need to upgrade the joke about how you know

when * is lying from "when his lips are moving" to "when he has lips". He's taken mendacity to new heights.

:hi:

[bunny planet]

91. Lying sack of crap, that's our blivet.

[Patsy Stone]

99. So very embarrassing.

Hi, bun! Shabbat Shalom. :)

[bunny planet]

106. Hello doll. Shabbat Shalom to you too.

[Olney Blue]

129. bunny, I agree with you about the speech

when can we get our country back?

[Patsy Stone]

54. Okay, I call BS on this Brauer woman

I knew I had to behave. I don't think the problem is that there weren't that many cafes then. Wha?

Never, and I mean NEVER, do I remember seeing someone changing a baby at the table when I was out with my mother in a restaurant.

OMG.

[SharonRB]

58. I don't ever remember seeing that when I took my daughter out

when she was a baby. And we used to go out with out play group all the time when we lived in New York. No one ever did that. Very gross!

[Patsy Stone]

64. Something has indeed changed

it's also a fine line to point it out without seeming like you're the "Child Catcher". I respect KO for saying he can't stand it. It's especially difficult when you're single and childless -- then you really seem like a bitter person.

Yet another reason :loveya:

[CBHagman]

110. Yeah, our parents would have KILLED us.

I'm sure there are many solid disciplinarians among parents these days, but I see enough evidence of the opposite problem: parents literally entreating their kids to obey, or letting the kids run wild, or expecting store and restaurant staff to be baby-sitters or -- worst of all -- treating anything, including the theater or a local business or a house of worship, as an extension of the family's personal property. Don't think that latter example is rare. I see it constantly.

[WolverineDG]

65. i'm calling bs too pats

we were under strict orders to "behave or DIE." when i worked in restaurants, we dreaded negligent parents. one waitress almost dumped two pots of coffee on a kid who wandered back into the kitchen! recently, i started adding "please find someone to care for your children during our appointment as we do not have child-care facilities at our office" because too many parents would bring their demon kids to the office, let them run wild, scream, fight, tear up the lobby, wander into the staff kitchen & eat our goodies, etc. :grr: kids will be kids, but restaurants (& offices) are not playgrounds.

dg

[SharonRB]

55. I don't think his request is unreasonable at all

And my gaydar is going off big time.

[Patsy Stone]

61. Absolutely

No doubt about your accuracy. :)

[Berry Cool]

164. My gaydar went off the first time they showed this guy the night before

and I thought "I sure hope these bratty moms don't whisper behind his back that the only reason this guy doesn't like their ill-behaved kids is because he's 'anti-breeder.'"

Gay or straight, NOBODY should have to put up with other people's ill-behaved kids. And I give Keith 100% props for saying it too. He and I are both sure to be chastisted for that--as single childless people. But--and I know I will sound utterly stupid and innocent when saying this but I will say it anyway--I swear to God, if I ever DO have kids, I will teach them to behave in public or I will take them away from the public eye if they don't.

The woman they had on here did NOTHING to make a cogent argument that anyone was hurting kids by asking them to behave. And her argument that people didn't take their kids out as much in days gone by held absolutely NO water at all.

[bunny planet]

60. Next up, Mo Rocca skewers O'Loofah. This oughta be good.

[CC]

63. Ok must say it

You go cafe owner, and wish more would do the same. Having been in places where parents let their kids run wild I give him credit. Having made up to 8 kids behave in a restaurant about once a month it isn't that hard. The parents that complain would be like the friend of mine that let her kids run wild. One time he turned around and dumped a plate of ketchup covered fries over a man's head in the booth behind them. She thought it was funny and laughed. I took my kid and left.

[SharonRB]

66. Some people have no regard for others

They're in their own little world.

[CC]

68. I wanted to killed the

kid, and left before I hurt him. Mine was only 3 at the time and he knew it was wrong. And some people are so self centered they not only don't care they can't see how it would affect others.

[Gogi]

152. We were eating at a local restaraunt which had a salad bar...

and this boy, who was old enough to know better, licked the blue cheese dressing spoon and plunged it back into the dressing. We told the waitress, of course, and she removed the crock. Put me off salad bars for a long time! :puke:


:hi: KO

[Gogi]

154. A further thought...

Some parents seem to think that because families eat out more the world should be more tolerant. I think that because more families eat out it is doubly imperative that children are well behaved. Just because they've become used to the brattiness is no reason the rest of the world has to put up or shut up.

[RevCheesehead]

157. Go, Gogi!

Preach the Word! :applause:

[SharonRB]

67. This is an important story.

Bad English drives me nuts. Part of my job is proofreading, so I'm a stickler. I work with a bunch of communicators and some of them can't write a grammatically correct sentence half the time. It seems to be mostly the younger people who don't know all the rules of punctuation and grammar.

[CC]

73. I can't say much since I

am guilty of tortuing the language.

[Patsy Stone]

77. I had some issues with Judith Miller's letter

I think she was waaaay over her comma allocation.

[WolverineDG]

108. um sharon

might want to spellcheck your post. :blush:

it's ok, though, you still speak english gooder than me. ;)

dg

[SharonRB]

113. LOL -- Thanks, DG

Funny thing is I already corrected that word once. It's so hard to see on this screen sometimes.

[WolverineDG]

120. i know how you feel

i edit & edit & edit my motions & briefs until my eyes bleed, yet months later when i read through them, i always find a typo or some bad grammar & think "omg, i filed THIS?" :crazy:

dg

[Berry Cool]

166. It is always nice to know

that there are conscientious lawyers out there. :-)

[Olney Blue]

134. Hi SharonRB-

I've noticed your excellent writing skills.

:thumbsup:

[SharonRB]

135. Thanks, Olney

:hi:

[Berry Cool]

167. Dan Patrick was all over the Ralph Nader story on his Thursday show.

He had another list of things Ralph was working on, including ending world hunger and trying to get people to pronounce his name "Rafe."

[Berry Cool]

165. It never ceases to amaze me how many of Keith's fans work with words.

I write, I edit, AND I proofread. PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BE BOTHERED TO GET THEIR GRAMMAR RIGHT DRIVE ME NUTS! An especial pain are writers who think they can treat editors like "janitors" of prose...they don't even feel the need to examine their own work and at least TRY to have enough pride in it to make it look halfway good before handing it off.

And no, many of the younger kids don't know the rules. Even worse, they think they don't have to, because "so long as everyone gets what you mean it's all right." Well, sometimes they DON'T "get what you mean" because you didn't communicate it well. That's what they don't understand.

[bleever]

69. Ralph Nader! Our good buddy. Now you're gonna fuck up the TO thing

too??

Wow, dude's got range.


:rofl:

[Patsy Stone]

72. Soon, we will be able to blame it on the Clenis.

I just have to figure out how. :)

[bleever]

150. Maybe through the use of Sharpies?

'S gotta be his fault.

:)

[Patsy Stone]

151. Somehow, dammit, it just must be.

I will NOT give up until I find a way to make this his fault. :)

[Patsy Stone]

70. Freudian slip for KO

Tickles instead of tickets. Oh, yes. Tickle away. :)

[bunny planet]

114. I caught that, you can tickle me anytime Keef.

[Berry Cool]

168. Get in line, Bun-Bun!

The queue at the "KO Tickle Booth" is a long one! :loveya:

[Olney Blue]

71. Hi everybody!

Just got back from a day in Northern Virginia- home of the Democratic governors!

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

75. Oh, sure

go ahead and rub it in. I'm stuck with Jebbie! :hi: Olney.

[CC]

80. Hello Olney

You mean you don't like our Gov. Whiner? I am counting the days until he is gone and can whine out of range of camera or radio.

[Olney Blue]

84. Don't get me started about Ehrlich!!!!

:banghead:

[CC]

102. I only call him

Gov. Whiner. And I know your pain.

[SharonRB]

74. Not a bad choice

I read about this today. They're all so hypocritical.

[Patsy Stone]

82. He should also be added to permanent status

That Santorum, what a sweetie. :puke:

[bunny planet]

79. Keith is having so much fun tonight.

Poor little Rick Sanctimonious Santorum, how low can you go with those poll numbers Ricky.

[RevCheesehead]

83. "Prayer-driven, telekenetic destruction."

That's a good line. :)

[bleever]

92. Can I get a merit badge for that? Take a home-study course?

Advise me, O Aromatic One.

[RevCheesehead]

104. Not to be undertaken by mere mortals.

Only true sactimonious assholes dare to enter that realm.

"O aromatic one." :rofl:

Hey, bleev - I had a dream about you a few nights ago. ;)

[bleever]

128. That Fabio-like character is a mere shadow of the true bleev.

Though frankly, and I know I can confide in you as a fellow person of the cloth, I'm kinda down about that cruise ship outrunning me last week. Who knew that they could turn their engines up to 11?

[RevCheesehead]

133. Warp factor 9.... resistance is futile.

Nope, no Fabio. No X-rated parts, either. I just dreamed I was attending a conference on something political. Snarky remarks were made by me and another person, and we found out we were snarky kindred souls. Turns out that person was you. Go figure.

By the way, my laundry is washed. I'm just drying it now. :)

[bleever]

147. Perhaps there is a Snark Overmind.

"Assimilate or...never mind, you're assimilated."


And, thanks on the laundry.

:)

[WolverineDG]

141. hey bleev

head back to grand cayman. they love you there...tons of statues of ya littering up the joint & last week was even "pirate week." :)

dg

[bleever]

149. Yeah, I got family there.

Maybe more than I know of!

:thumbsup:

[Patsy Stone]

85. #1 The Foolish Factor

LOL! Go, Mo! :loveya:

[Patsy Stone]

86. Okay, Keith said "coitus"

I give up. :loveya:

[WolverineDG]

124. i'm surprised no one's posted this yet:

The Coit Tower




dg

[WolverineDG]

127. btw

i think berry fainted again.

dg

[Berry Cool]

169. Well, I didn't have time back then

but I'm fainting now.

Between Keith's "bra studies" and his completely apropos-of-nothing mention of "coitus," I'm feeling plenty woozy...

Uh, Keith, this is the library calling. Please report to the Private Collection Department.

[Olney Blue]

87. This riff on O'Lielly is hilarious!!!!

[Patsy Stone]

88. Throaty McHuskington still talking about Natalee.

Oy vey. :puke:

[SharonRB]

90. Breaking developments...

I switched channels as fast as I could.

[Olney Blue]

93. I thought she was taking a job at the Bunny Ranch after

her interview last night.

Guess she didn't get the offer.

[Patsy Stone]

137. I didn't think they hired men in drag.

Okay, that's not fair. I know a lot of drag queens, each more feminine than she. :)

[Olney Blue]

142. This may sound kinda crazy.....

but when Throaty was in New Orleans covering Katrina and didn't
look like a plastic toy, she was not so bad-

... especially with the sound turned off!

:*

[Patsy Stone]

143. Especially with the sound turned off is key --

no matter where, no matter when. :)

[bunny planet]

89. Oh rats, Throaty McHuskerton's opening steps all over Mo's last punchline.

I wonder what he was going to say.

[bunny planet]

100. Hey, I thought 'irregardless' was a word.

Who knew.

[SharonRB]

107. LOL

My mother-in-law uses it all the time and my hubby and I always laugh about it. Drives me nuts!

[bunny planet]

111. I still haven't bought a copy of 'Eats Shoots and Leaves', but my English

teacher friend insists I need it, she says I'm comma challenged.

[CBHagman]

116. There was a comma error in a review of Truss's latest.

I was reading the NY Times review of the latest book by the author of Eats, Shoots, and Leaves, and there was a punctuation error in a sentence quoted from the current book. That kind of thing makes me insane, because I do lots of editing on my jobs.

I'm a Diana Hacker person myself.

[SharonRB]

122. I never heard of Eats, Shoots, and Leaves

Is it some kind of book about grammar?

I do a lot of editing, too. Mostly for the mechanics of English kinds of things, but some copy tweaking as well. I'm a graphic designer and that's part of my job.

[RevCheesehead]

130. Yes, but there is no comma after "Shoots" in the title.

That's the point of the book.

A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Wh?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says, at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Yes, I have the book. I couldn't resist the title.. or the story.

[SharonRB]

132. Now that I see this, the point is that there shouldn't be

a comma after eats, not that there isn't a comma after shoots.

[RevCheesehead]

136. Yeah. On the book cover,

a Panda is painting over the first comma.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/1592400876.01._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-dp-500-arrow,TopRight,45,-64_AA240_SH20_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1592400876/103-1626567-0556665?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance

edit: you can read a portion of the book if you click on the link.

[SharonRB]

140. Thanks, Rev

Looks like one I'll have to get. I read the excerpt from the chapter "The Seventh Sense." That's me, alright. I go crazy when I see misspellings on menus, signs, etc.

[Berry Cool]

171. Sharon, you go above and beyond the call of duty.

In my years of experience, I've found that the vast majority of graphic designers are best kept away from the copy. If they read it, that's a blessing. But I sure as heck don't expect them to catch typos or tweak copy! Nor do I expect them to be great typists! I always check over everything I ask them to key in. (And I don't mean this in an insulting way--I'm not a great typist either! None of us was hired for our typing skills!)

Surprised you never heard of "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" though. It IS a British author at work, so her advice goes only so far from an American usage standpoint, but it's still pretty good. My personal favorite book on that subject is "Lapsing into a Comma." I grabbed that one at half price while bumming around Ithaca one day. Not only great grammatical advice but an entertaining read.

[WolverineDG]

112. what about this one:

"the reason is because...."

that one drove my mom around the bend.

dg

[SharonRB]

117. That one drives me nuts, too

Or the reason why. It's just "the reason is..." or "It's because..."

[Patsy Stone]

144. I hate "efforting"

As in the news media's claims they are "efforting" to get us that story. Not a word. Not, not, not a word. Also, while we're at it: impact, used as a verb, pisses me off. "It impacted the decision." It's a noun, meaning, among other definitions, "to have an effect". It's not a verb. Impact, used as a verb, means to pack together or strike with force. Stop it! Just stop it. :)

[RevCheesehead]

145. Hooray! Someone else hates "impacting"

I tell people that the only thing impacted is a molar... and that's an adjective. :)

Don't get me started. That report on grammar was spot-on.

[Patsy Stone]

146. :)

It gets me every time. I wanna scream when I hear it.

[SharonRB]

161. Absolutely, Rev

See my note to Pats below. I am forever correcting the use of "impact" and its variations. People just don't realize it's not a verb.

[SharonRB]

160. I love you, Pats

I've never heard anyone use "efforting," but one of the most common things I correct when I edit at work is "impact" being used as a verb. Drives me up a wall. You have no idea how commonly it is used.

[Berry Cool]

172. Actually, I read somewhere that "impact" has been used as a verb since

1913.

Get that...since 1913.

I STILL hate it like poison, though. I still hate making nouns into verbs where there are perfectly good verbs being used. WHY do people have to say "authored" when they could say "wrote"?

And I don't like using "myriad" as a noun rather than an adjective...although I am told *that* is OK, too.

Oh well. I have to choose my pet peeves. But I still think of one thing when I think of "impacting" something, and that's teeth. Painful.

[Berry Cool]

170. Bunny, "irregardless" is one of the most annoying non-words

out there...

[SharonRB]

125. I just noticed, Pats...

Is this the same outfit he was wearing tonight?

[Patsy Stone]

138. Sadly, no.

The photo in the OP is a darker suit and a better tie. Still: :loveya: