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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:45 PM
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Chilling quote by terrorist sympathizer cleric about Kerry and gays
I think we all knew it to be true that there is an alliance between Christianists and Islamists when it comes to gay people. But to see it like this (and the awful thing he implies about Kerry) is just plain sick. Karl Rove needs to be called on the fact that part of his strategy to win the '04 election was to invoke values that Islamists all the way up to Osama bin Laden and the Iranian president would approve of:

http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1170

Following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on June 5, 2006.

Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: Kerry, who ran against Bush, was supported by homosexuals and nudists. But it was Bush who won , because he is Christian, right-wing, tenacious, and unyielding. In other words, the religious overcame the perverted. So we cannot blame all Americans and Westerners.


Just so you know how far this guy goes, he says this further in the interview:

Interviewer: How should a homosexual or a lesbian be punished? We mentioned the story of the people of Sodom and how Allah punished them, but how should someone who commits this abomination be punished today?

Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: The same punishment as any sexual pervert - the same as the fornicator.

<...>

The schools of thought disagree about the punishment. Some say they should be punished like fornicators, and then we distinguish between married and unmarried men, and between married and unmarried women. Some say both should be punished the same way. Some say we should throw them from a high place, like God did with the people of Sodom. Some say we should burn them, and so on. There is disagreement.

<...>

The important thing is to treat this act as a crime.


I found this site about him (anti-defamation league material among others):

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP82804

He supports the insurgency in Iraq who is blowing up our troops. And yet, he stands side by side with the religious right in our own country when it comes to gays. I'm so sickened by this terrorist scumbag (if you tell everyone to go to Iraq to blow Americans up, then you deserve to be called a terrorist scumbag), I just didn't know what to do with this quote but share it with you.

Yes, Bush is hated over there (for his own stupidity), but Kerry would have been, too, but for different reasons (they also would have played up his Jewish blood, the anti-semitism is so virulent). There seems to be no shortage of hatred over there.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:09 PM
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1. So they consider Bush one of them?
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 10:09 PM by ProSense
Good thing Kerry wasn't running for president over there!

Seriously, terrorists are filled with hatred; they thrive on hate. Just because Bush's actions are serving to increase recruitment by these groups, doesn't make their actions justified. They are terrorists.

I believe my dad said it best: the terrorists didn't send a memo to certain groups to stay away from the WTC on 9/11, it was equal opportunity hate.


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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:42 PM
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7. Exactly.
Even though the current administration is not going to stand up and say it's proud to be part of a country where gay people can walk down the street without being arrested and executed, we still live in a country where it's legal to be gay. So they got it wrong.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:13 PM
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2. i posted this in GD a while ago
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 10:13 PM by JI7
i actually found out about it originally from a right wing site. the right wingers were going on about how they can use anti gay talk during election time to keep Muslim support.

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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:28 PM
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3. Funny, isn't it
that Kerry got more votes from Arab Americans then Bush. IMO we are being governed by extremist (this administration-neocons and the religious right).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 09:34 AM
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4. Also funny that the Islamic fundamentalist take the RW
Bush image at face value. It might be that they see the rigid inability to correct course enables them to rally their side. That the RW people even thought they could use this to get Arab Americans to vote Bush shows a complete lack of respect for the American Arab population.

I think the fact that Kerry got far more Arab American support than Bush, likely reflects the hope that Kerry could reach out to the less extremist Arabs pulling support away from these terrorists. There would be anti-American sentiment no matter who was president. How Kerry would have resolved Iraq and participated in resoving Middle eastern conflict would have far more impact on anti-Kerry Arab sentiment. If he was seen as a fair broker and someone who showed respect to Arabs, he would be hated less than a president who uses the words like "Islama fascist" and crusade. If he suceeded in tamping down the chaos there he would be respected.

That he had Jewish blood would clearly have been used, but they aren't big on Christianity either. Kerry likely did get more of the gay vote, but I never even heard of a "nude" block of voters.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 12:21 PM
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5. Ha -- "Nude" bloc of voters -- too funny, Karynnj
Thanks for the laugh on that. It's so easy to get upset by these haters, but sometimes you really have to laugh at them. All I can see now is a bunch of naked people standing in line to vote as journalists report about an "overwhelmingly pro-Kerry bunch of nudists are now in line to vote, but there is only one Diebold machine working in this heavily nudist district!"
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 01:35 PM
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6. That would have been hilarious
Not to mention they would be reported on often and though the reporters would have stayed to far away to ask - they would be labeled "Pro-Kerry".
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