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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:59 PM
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Boston Phoenix ignorant of Kerry's role on Iraq.
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 07:27 PM by Mass
If somebody is registered with the Phoenix, they could post something about this snippet at the end of an article about MA Politics.

If not, may be people with contact with Kerry's office may want to alert them that there are still people in Boston papers (and this is not the Herald) who are not aware of Kerry's position on the issue (or more probably do not want to know).

http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid19880.aspx

Testing the waters for a possible presidential run in New Hampshire, Edwards tells voters, when asked, that he made a mistake in voting for the war. It seems to be working. Hillary Clinton should take note. So, too, should John Kerry.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:03 PM
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1. Something is really wrong with the Phoenix. A second article stating the
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 07:04 PM by Mass
same thing.
http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid19888.aspx

The rest of the world knows that Kerry said he would not vote for the IWR again, but the Boston Phoenix does not?
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:09 PM
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2. More importantly,
only JK has actually done anything that even approaches trying to get us out. Not only has he renounced his vote, he's gone way beyond that.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:18 PM
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3. Totally true, but unfortunately, for some people the first aspect is as
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 07:20 PM by Mass
important. Actually, it is for me, because if you do not say you were wrong, you will do the same error twice, even if you try to solve the problem afterwards.

The problem here is that, contrarely to others, Kerry has said again and again that his vote was wrong, but that the most left-wing newspaper in Boston continues to ignore that.

This point struck me because I thought this issue was pretty much settled everywhere in the media by now, except may be for people from the extreme-far left, so, finding that in the Boston media was quite a shock.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:43 PM
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5. Well, right,
which is why Senator Kerry said he had to take responsibility for his part in it.

I understand your shock - it's one thing to make a mistake, and quite another to cling to a belief that mistake even after the "offending party" has not only apologized, but taken steps to rectify the situation.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:33 PM
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4. They know, the media knows
It's simply spin to pretend they don't know. I'm pretty sure there are people tuned into the networks who may not know, but media types, they know.

Keep the Internet free and open to all
Plus: Bush’s war, Kerry’s call to get out, and Clinton’s silence

6/15/2006 1:46:49 PM

Snip...

Still, the Republican-controlled Congress, clutching at the straws it has at hand, is trying to turn this week’s debate on the Iraq war into another vote on terrorism. They hope that Zarqawi’s death, the formation of an Iraqi government, and Bush’s visit will change public perceptions about the war. And maybe it will — for a few days, a week, maybe even a few weeks. But the nation has been there and done that. As the steady return of American bodies continues, and as the horrific death toll among Iraqi civilians continues to climb, not even an American public once gullible enough to believe Bush and his cronies will change its mind that it was misled into supporting the gross mistake the world knows as the Iraq war. Senator John Kerry, who initially supported the war, has introduced a clear-cut resolution calling for troops to be out of Iraq by the end of this year. Already the GOP attack machine is trying to tar Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, with the same brush it used to smear Democratic congressman John Murtha of Pennsylvania, another Vietnam vet who earlier called for an end to Bush’s Iraq adventure. Men like Kerry and Murtha, say the Republicans, are soft on terror, unlike tough guys Bush and Cheney, who avoided Vietnam service. At this moment, the question on many minds is this: when will Democratic senator Hillary Clinton of New York change her position and join the courageous members of her party willing to face down Bush?

http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid15109.aspx


Even the bloggers know:

I read a lot of far-right blogs for one of my other gigs, and this is a remarkably common sentiment. If you oppose the war in Iraq — believe it was a mistake, argue that an open-ended commitment is irresponsible, recognize that that it is not helping to make the U.S. any safer — than, in the minds of too many conservatives, you are objectively pro-terrorism.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/8163.html
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:54 PM
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7. Of course, they know. However, if somebody has a loggin there, it could
be worthwhile posting there to correct this lie.
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nolies32fouettes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:54 PM
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6. where's links to articles saying he regretted it?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:01 PM
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9. A list of sources here.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 07:58 PM
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8. Lots of data here
I was just responding to Kos, but this also applies to other sources which claim Kerry supported the war:

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=17
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 08:57 PM
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10. I left them a comment
That kind of journalistic negligence is inexcusable.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:08 PM
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11. Are you Sam Adams?
If yes, great post. The other one, unfortunately, is very hard to read.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:11 PM
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12. Yeah the Phoenix's website fucks up the formatting
Edited on Wed Aug-09-06 09:12 PM by WildEyedLiberal
I had paragraphs in my post but it all got glommed together into one big blob. Rather annoying, but at least they are getting the message that they can't lie with impunity about their own senator who you'd think they'd pay a little better attention to.

BTW yeah I'm Sam Adams.
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