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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:40 AM
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Lie and Die.
I borrowed this from another post; has anyone seen this commercial on the air yet?

Email excerpts:
Today Comcast - the nation's largest cable company - announced they would broadcast ImpeachPAC's TV ad criticizing Joe Lieberman in advance of Tuesday's primary in Connecticut.

There is one simple reason why they changed their minds - because HUNDREDS of you called Comcast's President, Brian Roberts, and politely asked Comcast to support the First Amendment.

It's called "Lie and Die" and you can watch it here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FV6Fbgp3J-s

The ad features lies by Bush, Cheney, and Lieberman. Each lie is separated by a photo of an Iraqi child who has died because of these lies. It then quotes John Kerry as he declares, "Our policy is not 'cut and run.' Their policy is 'lie and die.'"

And it concludes with a simple question about Joe Lieberman: "6 More Years?"

That's the choice Connecticut voters will make on Tuesday. And it will be a truly historic choice.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:53 AM
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1. It will be interesting to see what impact the commercial has. n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 11:49 AM
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2. It will be interesting to see if Kerry ignores it
or lodges a protest over having his image appear to endorse an anti-war candidate. (Kerry was strictly neutral in the fight, no endorsement for anyone till after the Democratic voters decide who they want to represent them.)
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 12:05 PM
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3. I hadn't though about that aspect of this commercial.
I would have though, they couldn't use Kerry's statements without his permission.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 12:31 PM
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4. They actually can use it
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 12:50 PM by TayTay
Fair use. He is a public figure and doesn't completely 'own' his image in the public sphere.

I haven't heard anything, but if the commecials air, we might hear something this weekend. I actually would not like it. It violates strict neutrality, in my opinion, which is a very valid position and a consistent one as well.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 01:59 PM
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6. I feel the same way. n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 12:44 PM
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5. It also doesn't show any troops
I don't know why they chose to only show Iraqis, I suppose it avoids any exploiting the troops for political purposes noise, still a little odd.

Interesting choice of Kerry too, the last 3 years of bashing from the anti-war crowd considered. Maybe the choice is to let voters know there are main stream Democrats criticizing this war, that's probably a good thing overall.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:07 PM
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7. This is Comcast working to PUSH Joe to switch parties. Does anyone really
beieve they woke up one day and decided to be fair to Dems?

They chose this BECAUSE it uses Kerry as the symbol and HE will take the brunt of the backlash from the mediawhores when Joe switches parties or is seen as a representative moderate victim of the antiwar left.

How do you THINK the mediawhores will spin this? Haven't we seen them at work many times before?

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:54 PM
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8. Well, that's certainly an angle
I can see that kind of thinking, absolutely, now that you point it out. I think it's a misinterpretation of where America is at on the war though. Don't you think?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:09 PM
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10. Sure, but when have they cared about what Americans REALLY think about it?
Edited on Fri Aug-04-06 03:10 PM by blm
As long as they can push the perception that a moderate tempered Democrat was pushed out of the party by the Far left Kerryites then they can get away with POUNDING on the Dems again in a negative way until the race in November does get close enough to steal.

And the corpmedia would LOVE to turn this into Lieberman v Kerry and so would the Clintons and Warner wing of the party.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 03:21 PM
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11. Excellent point! n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 02:59 PM
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9. Wow - that is a devasting scenario -
The Republicans get a seat and the leftie blogs (that somehow get less respect that the puerile FR) and John Kerry (bashed by the blogs), get the blame.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-04-06 10:31 PM
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12. Not very likely, thank goodness.
I think Lieberman is going to lose cleanly and I think Holy Joe is going to be forced to call it a career. The war is a very powerful and legitimate idea and the Powers That Be in DC are gonig to have to confront the fact that the war and the President that waged it are incredibly unpopular and people want some genuine opposition.

I don't see a downside on this fight for Kerry. I think the admakers used his image without permission and that is a minor problem. I just think it violates Kerry's stated neutrality on Lieberman. There is no neutrality on the war, no matter what happens with the CT primary. I think the good Senator from Massachusetts has made that crystal clear.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-05-06 01:01 PM
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13. No, it isn't.
:thumbsdown:
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