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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 08:46 PM
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Yet another reason to hate the Boston Herald
Edited on Tue Aug-01-06 08:47 PM by whometense
Piece of crap from beginning to end, and they can't even be bothered to think up an actual argument for opposing Kerry's plan. They oppose it, apparently for three reasons:

1.) It's not brand new.

2.) It's coming from Kerry.

3.) They're pissed off that he might consider running again. ("what? we didn't kill him off last time???")

http://news.bostonherald.com/editorial/view.bg?articleid=150814

Candidate Kerry, redux
By Boston Herald editorial staff
Tuesday, August 1, 2006

Meet the new John Kerry. Same as the old John Kerry.

If anyone out there is still wondering whether our junior senator is hurtling headlong into another race for president, they need only listen to his speech at Faneuil Hall to realize Kerry is more concerned about scoring points in Iowa and South Carolina than he is here at home.

Kerry dusted off the health care proposal he touted on the 2004 campaign trail, bemoaning the national health care “crisis” and trashing the Bush administration for old times’ sake. No surprise there.

But one thing has changed since Kerry’s campaign ostensibly ended in November 2004 - his home state passed landmark legislation that might well pave the way for every other state to extend coverage to millions of uninsured residents.

U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt last week called the bill a model for the rest of the nation. Local and national experts and opinion columnists have hailed the great promise the bill holds for covering the uninsured by relying on a combination of free market reforms and government subsidies and including a mandate that all residents carry health insurance.

Kerry did have a few kind words for the folks back on the farm (about 200 of the 4,500 word speech) and for the bill celebrated by Republicans and Democrats alike.

“Massachusetts is showing America how to take the initiative, break the gridlock, and confront this issue head-on,” he noted. He singled out Ted Kennedy for most of the credit, but House Speaker Sal DiMasi, Senate President Robert Travaglini and even Gov. Mitt Romney got a plug for helping “make reform a reality.”

But then he fell back on the same old, same old - Wal-Mart is the villain, the president’s prescription drug plan is an “unfolding disaster” (tell that to the seniors whose drugs are now covered), and we need a “comprehensive national health strategy” that includes repealing tax cuts for the wealthy. He spoke of controlling costs, covering all of America’s uninsured by 2012, and putting patients before profits. All well and good.

But haven’t we heard it all before?


P.S. I actually thought he was too kind to Mittens.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:02 PM
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1. But if it were very different - they would say he was a flip flopper
Kerry very nearly won - and may have needed a new honest election process - not a new health care plan. All the exit polls showed people preferred Kerry on that issue - so why is it wrong to re-focus it a little and publicize it.

Especially as the press covered it badly the first time.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:31 PM
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8. And said he had no plans and didn't stand for anything.
As you suggest, they would have reported on anything Kerry did negatively.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:05 PM
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2. The Herald has been crawling all over Kerry lately
That's a sign that he must be doing something right. They ripped him up one side and down the other for the comments he allegedly made about 'if I were Prez this wouldn't have happened.'

The Herald hates Kerry and they hate Teddy Kennedy too. It is the only thing that keeps the building up, that and pure spite. Most people discount them and I think that pisses them off even more. After all, Kerry got 62% of that vote in 2004 in Mass, the highest percentage ever given to a 'native son' candidate in state history. (hehehehe) The Herald may snipe at Kerry, but they can't touch him.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:07 PM
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3. true, true.
I hesitated to even post it, but I honestly believe that the angrier the Herald is at him, the better he's doing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:07 PM
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4. These people are full of **it
Kerry's ideas were the best, still are, and these a-holes are still in effect trying to confuse the situation, control the debate and land another greedy criminal Republican in office.

Two years since the election and, where are the innovative ideas from anyone else? Kerry is still out in front, one step ahead on the issue.


Period! Eff BoHerd with their:


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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:17 PM
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5. The Herald will only get snarkier
If the good taller Sen from Mass does run again, it will get much, much worse. (Perhaps even more so if the Dems do take over Congress this fall. Sen. Kerry's absences from Congress to prepare for another run would be more noticeable. These are merely warning shots that the Herald is firing now.)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:23 PM
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6. Josh Marshall post
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:51 PM
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9. I complete agree with Josh Marshall
The Rethugs have nothing to run on and a lot to run from, so they will pull every nasty trick out of their evil bag and go whole hog on that. I mean they already used surrogates to imply that Ted Strickland and his wife are gay, have a marriage of convenience and are degenerates. (Isn't Strickland a minister?)

It will get a lot worse. The Dems have discovered that they should run against Bush and against this very unpopular war. That leaves the Rethugs with no choice but to go very, very personal and make shit up about people. They do it very well. I don't think it will work this year, but it is going to be awful after Sept.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:46 AM
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12. RE: Strickland
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 10:00 AM
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14. What does he want
to watch them making love?

Pervert! They need to check the pastor's credentials!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:18 AM
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15. This really is identical to the Kerry swiftboating
Kerry's "official record" in Vietnam was not ambiguous - he served and was a hero, whether that suits the RW or not. The SBVT simply repeatedly declared the opposite without any facts and people believed it rather than challange a predjuidice they ascribed to. (Oddly, accepting that a MA liberal, who is well dressed and groomed and who is an elegant and eloquent speaker was also a brave courageous war hero meant they had to accept that people are multi-dimensional.)

With the Stricklands, their long marriage should be sufficient for people to assume they are heterosexual. Again, the accuser offers no proof to the contrary. Again, they demand the Democrat prove the record - though no proof to the contrary was offered.

(That people believe what they want - many RW comments were in the same thread as the one GV pointed to about Kerry doing the 100+ miles of biking without stopping - many implied Kerry simply talked about biking and one said he would tire going around the pool a few times (or something to that affect. I quess it's too bad he didn't have the spectacular athletic prowess of GWB. I mean doesn't he know a real bike rider falls off.)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 11:33 AM
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16. It certainly is! What's noticeable is that
the liars are trying to legitimize their attacks by injecting their lies and attacks into a debate being driven by RW frenzy. That's been the pattern of late.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 02:16 PM
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17. I would hope this goes to far
The attack on Kerry showed that anyone's service could be challanged - and the current Murtha attack proves it. Nixon didn't challange it - not out of the goodness of his heart - but because the press would have investigated and it would have brought more attention to Kerry's heroism. I remembered that he had purple hearts -I heard nothing about his saving a man's life. That may have been due to Kerry's innate modesty and that he really didn't talk much about it.

this shows they can challange something as personal as a person's sexuality and long term relationship. This is sick.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:28 PM
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7. Actually, I would ask that question of them. Haven't we heard this
trashing of Kerry before? It is getting boring, you know what they are going to say and how they are going to react. Every right wing leaning media outlet has used the same lines on reporting the Mass plan and the Repub who recommends it for everyone. (notice that most American's know little about it, but they are trying to convince them it is good without real debate)
Oh, and how upset they seem that Senator Kerry is considering another run. Where is the surprise here, Kerry has been very honest about this when asked.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 09:52 PM
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10. The anger and animousity is telling
How many editorials complaining that Kerry is running again would there be if he had absolutely no chance and where would they be? The RW wouldn't care as the worst he could do is pull some upport from another left of center candidate.

The only editorial there would be would be one like a 2005 Bershire Eagle one (I think) that begged Kerry to come to western Massachusetts, said he could be a powerful Senator like Kennedy and it seemed they didn't want him to run again because the loss hurt too much.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-01-06 10:06 PM
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11. "editorial staff"
So you mean to say it took more than one person to pull bits and pieces from RNC emails and concoct this ridiculous diatribe?

Haven't we heard it all before indeed.

That paper has got to be the definition of fish wrap.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-02-06 08:48 AM
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13. heh heh
To say it's fish wrap may be an insult to fish. :D
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