Ted Kennedy: Spineless coward

[WildEyedLiberal]

Good GOD. :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=805101&mesg_id=805101

[JohnKleeb]

I mean he's only been fighting for liberal values in the senate

since the early 60's, he should have been fighting in the senate in the 1950's.

[JI7]

1. they act like KEnnedy voted for Ashcroft and Roberts

;-)

[JohnKleeb]

2. That was cold, ice cold

I am gonna eat some of my ribs in honor of cannibalism. Seriously what the hell is wrong with people, god I'd love to have someone who is half hte senator Kennedy is.

[WildEyedLiberal]

3. And the "one-liner of the week" award goes to JI7

Bwaaaahahahaahah.

:rofl:

All too true...

[TayTay]

4. And just when the Boston Phoenix said Kennedy hatred was dying out

Sigh! Uncle Ted, who helped write the legislation that established Medicare for Senior Citizens in this country, Uncle Ted who fought for the Civil Rights Bill in the Senate and who has been championing the cause of Universal Health Care since he took office in 1962. Hmmmm.

Americans really need to be taught how their government works. There was no real need for the other Dem Senators to be there today. In fact, that would have been a mistake. The way the hearing played out, Sens. Leahy and Feingold got a lot of air time to make their case for censure of the President and got to ask their witnesses a lot of pointed questions. They did a very good job. The hearing was a positive.

Poor old Uncle Ted. What possible excuse can he use for not being there today? Perhaps that little thing about proposing a workable solution to the current 'crisis' on illegal immigration and making sure that the Rethugs don't pass a 'reform' bill on immigration that is so punitive it even makes it illegal for churches in America to help out the poor and the destitute got in the way. Sigh! I do hate it when that happens. Uncle Teddy should immediately cease and desist his efforts to actually help people and immediately accede to the wishes of the liberal web and drop everything to attend a hearing. Just because.

Sigh! This is what you call a 'tough crowd.'

[JohnKleeb]

5. You're right about government

People are very ignorant to how it works especially those who think they know. Man I can't believe he's been in office that long. The man really is among the best senators ever and history will recongize him for that, perhaps this is better than him having not been president, he out of all his brothers has had the longest and most profound impact on the nation. Thats right, I had totally forgot that Teddy had the bill on illegal immigration. I mean Ive worked with congresspeople, they are only human just like you and me.

[TayTay]

9. Uncle Ted has been my Senator since I was 4.

OMG! He has had other partners in the Senate over the years, including Republicans. (We hae rectified that situation, though Mr. Brooke was a very elegant and nice man.)

Uncle Ted took over his brother John's Senate seat in a special election in 1962. He has held it ever since. BTW, did you know that in 1960, Nixon put uber-Brahmin Henry Cabot Lodge on his ticket as the VP candidate. He did it to piss off John Kennedy. I am not sure this was wise as JFK had defeated Mr. Cabot Lodge in 1953 and taken his Senate seat from him. Republicans think in ways different from normal people. Anyway, in that long ago year, people still sort of tolerated Massachusetts politicans enought to allow two of them to run on a national ticket in the same year. Those were the days!

I think I have now fulfilled my quotient of mindless trivia for the evening.

[JohnKleeb]

10. Brooke wasnt a bad guy

I did not know that about Nixon putting Cabot Lodge on the ticket, funny though because I know that Jack made Lodge his ambassador to Vietnam. I think Lodge's grandfather was a bigger asshole than he was because he is the one that led the senate to reject the versailes traaty in the US senate thus mulling out US particpation in the league of nations in which I think something may have been done to pervent Hitler from doing what he did.

[TayTay]

11. Those were actual Brahmins, before the breed went extinct.

The son was a much better guy than the father. BTW, found this cool part of the Senate site that allows me to see all the Senators ever for the Noble Commonwealth of Massachusetts. It is like a little bit of geek heaven.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/senators/one_item_and_teasers/massachusetts.htm

Ah, I feel better now knowing that should I ever forget it, I can easily find out the line of succession leading to the current person who hold the Senate Class II seat from Massachusetts. (You never know when that will come up in a conversation.)

[JohnKleeb]

12. Its his grandfather not father

Massachuetts is such an interesting state historically and politically. It started going Democratic in 1928, Al Smith won it and neigboring Rhode Island, god bless those fine Irish Catholics eh?

[TayTay]

13. And the holy wars that ensued.

Irish against the Brahmins. (There are some, ahm, after effects of that war that are still somewhat visible. Sigh!) The Irish - Brahmin war went on for a long time. (And there are some interesting architecutural residues of that war still standing in the fine old city of Boston. sigh!)

(And no, I don't give a friggin care who is Irish and who isn't. It's not relevent anymore. It sounds like a replay of a bad 50's movie. Do you hear me Boston Herald? Nobody with more than half a brain cares. At all. It is a stupid thing to bring up.)

Sorry, inadvertant ranting sometimes occurs. Not aimed at you, but at people who piss me off.

[JohnKleeb]

14. Its ok

Don't y'all got alot of Italians and Polish too and Portugese? One of my tenth grade history teachers was a Polish American from Boston.

[TayTay]

15. Yes, but they lacked really good PR people

and writers and colleges founded in their name so they tend to get lost in the shuffle. The Irish and the Brahmins however have left significant marks hereabouts. (Boston College, Harvard and other schools that people think are not bad.)

It pays to make sure that you leave endowments for the historians. It's what's called, thinking ahead.

:rofl:

[JohnKleeb]

16. Which schools were founded by the Irish?

I know Hahvad as you guys call it was founded early on.

[TayTay]

17. Boston College

That was founded so that good Catholic boys from Boston could get a good education cuz fair Harvard was ill-disposed to let them in. (Sigh, the wars of years past.)

There is a Boston College High School, College and Graduate schools. Thus, one could, if one were male, be a 'triple eagle' and graduate from BC High, BC undergrad and BC Law School.

Our Mr. Kerry is an 'eagle.' His law degree is from BC. However, there is the matter of that small school down in New Haven, but we long ago forgave him for that as he didn't know any better.

[JohnKleeb]

18. Oh ok

Ah Yale

[wisteria]

6. Unreasonable and bullheaded crowd too.

It is getting ridiculous with certain types of posters. It is so childish, they don't listen to reason at all. My goodness, if we got this bent out of shape every time another Senator didn't support JK, we would be loony.
These people need to realize that all of our Senators have a right to form their own opinions on issues with out being pummeled with attacks simply because the Senators opinion differed from their own.

[ProSense]

7. Exactly! Besides,

rubber stamp Democrat doesn't even sound right, and lockstep liberals is an oxymoron.

[WildEyedLiberal]

8. It's actually what I call

A "stupid crowd." But I'm not nearly so nice as you. :evilgrin: