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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:30 PM
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Another IWR question
Edited on Mon Feb-13-06 04:38 PM by politicasista
On edit:I know I brought this up before and many are tired of hearing about it (sorry), but do you think that Kerry should come out and just say the IWR is NOT a vote for war? I that may help some people understand that he isn't a "Pro-war warmonger" and that "he voted FOR the war."

Too many so-called pundits think that IWR means you support(ed) the war. I was listening to Rev. Al Sharpton's commentary on Tom Joyner one day and the first thing he said the day Hillary came to a NYC-Harlem church (On MLK day--plantation remark) was "she supported the war."

I know blm has explained many times that IWR would have prevented war, but that's the problem. Many still don't understand how or why IWR would have avoided war. They just knew that Bush was not trustworthy even if it was after 9/11.

I come from an opinionated Anti-war family and I agree that it's tiring that many dems are continuing to get blamed for voting for it (although I would have voted against it). Although many have continued to let Bush off the hook for it, it was just an extra thought I had about it and decided to ask for opinions about this issue.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 05:09 PM
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1. I don't know if this will help
but I never thought that vote was for war, in fact like BLM I thought it would prevent it.

At the time of that vote 70% of Americans where for responding to Sadam one way or another.

To me personally, I was against war, but I was not totally against this resolution. There were rumors going around that bush was going to go in as early as November, and the Congress said hold on a minute, you must take these steps before and that war will be the last option if all the other steps fail. I myself thought that the Inspections would be the answer, and bring to an end the talk of war.

The thing that went wrong with this is that no matter what results Bush heard on WMD, diplomacy, etc., he was going to war no matter what.Bush is the warmonger and yes many Repubs and a few Dems although I think only a couple are still on the Bush bandwagon (Lieberman, Nelson,).

JK warned Bush in his speech on the Senate floor, that if he abused this resolution that he JK would be the first to speak out, and he did.

I don't think JK thought a president would so abuse his powers. Kerry respects the office of the presidency, I don't think he thought a president would ever abuse his power as Bush has. Bush has done so much damage to that title. It will be hard for any future president to get the full trust of the people back again.

Just my 2 cents.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 08:42 PM
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2. I agree with your view
I was even optimistic that it had by a miracle been avoided when Saddam agree to destroy the missiles.

I also think that Kerry may have been one of the more border line Yeses. To my knowledge, of the NO votes only Kerry (and maybe Harkin) spoke out publicly against invading claiming that the promised conditioned weren't met. I really do think that at least these 2 were trying to work bipartisanly to push Bush away from starting a war.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 05:33 PM
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3. It does n/t
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