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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:13 PM
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The power of pictures...
A few of us have been discussing this photo:

and the powerful message it sends.

Recently I returned to work after our Boston trip, and as you all may have heard me say in the past, I live in a RIGHT WING town. I work with about 60% Repugs, and 40% Dems. The ratio in the town is even less in favor of Dems, but this is the health care field, where you need to be a little more altruistic, humanitarian, generous, and liberal. Taking care of the sick, dying, disadvantaged and sometimes drug addicted and HIV positive is not a job for an uppity, holier-than thou-neocon. Many of the Repub nurses I work with, I often wonder why the hell they even took the job. But I digress...

The people in this town are not the upper-crust fiscally conservative "old party" Republicans whom you might find a few of in Massachusetts or Connecticut. They are hateful. Bigoted. Ignorant. Uneducated. Socially unskilled. Warmongering. Mean.

I'm sorry if this upsets anyone, and it probably should, but we had a cross burning on the front lawn of an African American family's home a year or two ago. The Aryan Nation recruits here. We had a homosexual couple murdered in their home by a white supremacist group a few years back. Everyone has guns, everyone's a gun nut.

So yeah...our Bush Supporters are not exactly "moderates." They are pure evil.

Every one of my co-workers, Dem and Pub alike KNOW how much I love John Kerry. Most of the Pubs accept it with little to no resistance. A few give offer some good natured teasing about it. Some don't mention it much at all.

All know NOT to give me any shit about it.

They are painfully aware that my love for John Kerry and my knowledge about all things Kerry is countless times deeper and more profound than any passion for policy or any politician they may have. I think this frightens them a little. Last year while they were all giving me pre-election shit about Kerry, I asked them what sort of volunteer grass roots efforts they were doing to support their candidate. None of them were doing a damn thing. They didn't even know where their local Republican office was. I told them of the extent of my activism and and involvement, my history with Kerry, his twenty year stint as my home state Senator, and all the research I'd done on him, and asked if they really wanted to get into a debate.

They pretty much shut up permanently.

For a staunch bunch of Bushies, they don't know jack shit about him, or politics.

After the the re-selection of Shrub, they treated me with kid gloves, and were amazingly decent about it.

Life went on.

As the year progressed, a few expressed amazement at my continued level of dedication, and how diligently I still supported Kerry and followed his activities in the senate. Many of them no longer paid a lick of attention to Shrub, or talked about him at all.

When I started talking about the Boston trip, a lot of the Pubs were a little skeptical, but also cautiously excited. I think they all wondered if it was possible I'd actually meet him. Many of them asked several times before the trip "When do you leave for Boston? How did you manage to get involved in an event like this?"

A couple of days after I got back, I returned to work, and pulled up this picture to show some of my Dem co-workers who were really supportive of my Kerry love.



They all stopped dead in their tracks, and stared. A collective intake of breath was heard, and suddenly all the questions and exclamations started flying out. "You really did it!" "What was he like?" "Were you nervous?" I suddenly noticed the din seemed a lot louder than what just a few people could produce...

I turned around and the whole department was gathered behind me, gaping, gasping, and slack jawed, They had these really exuberant expressions, pink shiny cheeks, glistening eyes, and were all just laughing heartily, and patting me on the back.

Republicans and all.

Then, as fate would have it, my biggest critic, Tim - Republican, conservative, Bush supporter, gun-toter, anti-choice, pro-war, right-wing as all get out - Tim, who had teased me for weeks preceding the party "I'm sooooo thrilled about your little party, soooo sorry I can't be there" strolled in in his street clothes to pick up his paycheck. He said, sarcastically, "So how was JOHN?"

I waved him over, and pointed to my screen, and said "Funny you should stroll in now... Get an eye full of this."

He looked at the screen, and his jaw unhinged like a snake about to eat a whole chicken. He leaned forward and craned his neck as far as he could gaping at the photo. And froze. And stared. He then got this huge smile on his face, and finally caught his breath, and said "OH MY GOD. OH MY GOD. OH HOLY SHIT!" He too, had that flushed look, like he was just SO EXCITED. He let out a hearty belly laugh and looked at me with total admiration and said, "I am really genuinely impressed. I admit it. I never thought you'd pull this off. My God." He shook his head and just kept looking at me like I'd laid a golden egg or something. After answering a barrage of questions about John AND Teresa from the whole staff (all respectful) I went back to work. (Or tried. All I could think about was how much I wished I was back in Boston where I might see the Kerry's again.)

The next night Tim and I worked together. He immediately asked me if I had more pictures. I showed him one or two more from the party, and though I kept the pub pics under wraps, I told him we all went out and had a beer with John, that Teresa had been kind enough to host. He freaked out all over again. "YOU HAD A BEER WITH HIM?!?" He wanted to know what kind of clothes he wore in a pub, as he could only picture him in a suit. He kind of trailed me the whole night asking stuff like "Is he nice?" "Does he joke around?" "Did he mention if he liked sports or anything?" "What teams does he like?" "Is he really THAT tall?" After a while, he admitted. "He's probably a cool guy."

I nearly shit my pants hearing him say that, but I seized the opportunity. I said "You know Tim, I realize that you probably have a lot of negative misconceptions about him because of what you see on Fox news. I have seen Fox news, and I have met John Kerry in person, and spent a good amount of time talking to him in person. I can honestly tell you that you cannot trust what the news tells you. I know for sure now, from personal experience. Kerry is nothing like the way he was portrayed in the media. I can guarantee, that if you met him, and had a beer with him, and your favorite channel ESPN was on, and you guys got to talking about sports, you would like him."

He sort of shrugged and looked at the ground and said - "Oh, yeah, well...I mean I probably would."

I then reminded him to be really careful about letting himself get caught up in letting the media make decisions for him, and to remember that things aren't always as they seem in the news. He said..."That's probably true."

Now, I don't expect that he's going to run out and change his affiliation to Democrat tomorrow, and become a die-hard Kerry worshiper, but this DOES scratch the surface. This does plant a seed.

Which brings me back to the Bush supporter shaking Kerry's hand picture. I believe it is REALLY hard to keep hating someone from afar if they get close to you and give you reason not to.

The folks in rural areas, in red states who DID vote for Bush likely want a better future and a Stronger America the same as we do. Yes, a few are hateful and unreachable, but most are not. They are ill-informed.

I believe it is IMPERATIVE for Kerry, if he runs in '08 to spend a lot of time in the red states, in rural areas, doing town hall meetings, front porch meetings, pot luck dinners at grange halls, VFW halls. A LOT OF THEM. Of course the rallies in big cities are great, but most of the people attending those know who they are going to vote for. They just want to go see John Kerry. Instead of JUST campaigning in swing states, which IS important, he needs to go to the smaller communities in the south, midwest, and rocky mountain states, and be brave and sit down with his critics, and TALK TO THEM. Show them, "I am not the man you see on FOX NEWS. Come meet me. Air your grudges. Let's talk. I'll cook a spaghetti supper - come on out. If you don't like my politics, at least come for the food and we'll start there." It sounds hokey, but hokey WORKS. I guarantee nobody like George Bush is going to do that. People love having a strong sense of community, and enjoy these sorts of events. Imagine the effect reaching out like this, in these areas, could have? Kerry himself could "be the media" by giving the people in these isolated, conservative communities a reason to get up off their sofas, away from the TV , and out of the house to see up close and personal, an alternative view of the man. I think that even if they are wary, most of the people in these tiny towns would show up, just to be part of something interesting and exciting. It's not often that prominent politicians known 'round the world show up in Soddy Daisy, Tennessee. Just the curiosity alone would draw people out. Maybe they'd be flattered he came to see them. Maybe they'd like a chance to be heard. Maybe they'd respond if Kerry said, I'd like to meet you, and let you judge for yourselves the strength of my character, my ability to lead."

Maybe they'd like free spaghetti! Or chili and cornbread. Or gumbo.

He needs to take them out for beers, and let them take a lot of pictures...that they can then take to the mill, the farm, the factory, etc...and show around. And plant seeds. Like I did here. Like I do everyday. One person at a time. Last year, I convinced eight people to either switch sides, or register for the first time and vote for Kerry. All still support him. All voted the Governator down last month.

I have a strong feeling about this. And a firm trust in the ability to win hearts and minds with honest to goodness human contact.




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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:25 PM
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1. Ah, Vektor, the story I have been waiting for . . .
Thanks for posting this . . . this is how Kerry and Teresa won the Iowa Caucus in '04 --
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:27 PM
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3. Yup. It works...
Time consuming but well worth it. He'll need to start early.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:26 PM
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2. That is so breathtakingly true
My experience is generally the opposite of yours - I tend to interact with liberals on a blue college campus in a blue state. But my small rural hometown is very quaint and conservative. Not vicious bigoted conservative, like the town where you live, but old-fashioned conservative - lots of farmers, small businessmen, people who think that Republicans represent small-town folksiness. If John Kerry came to my little town in central Illinois, he'd get a whole lot of curious people out there, people who may well have voted for Bush last year, or not at all, but who have only the vaguest of political opinions. It is my firm belief that John's number one asset is his honesty, his sincerity, his realness. He can and will win this nation in a landslide if he can barnstorm this great country and show the American people - who are by and large honest, hard working, and good intentioned people - who he really is, not who Sean Hannity and Karl Rove made him out to be. That's one reason I was always disappointed John never came to my area of Illinois - I know he didn't get to Illinois too much anyway, since it wasn't a swing state, but any appearance was inevitably in Chicago. Chicago's all well and good, but downstate is getting redder, and unless the Democrats start making a real effort to get down to these heartland folks and show them that Democratic values are THEIR values, I fear the trend will continue. We need to break the cycle of propaganda, and I can think of no one so disarmingly genuine and suited for the job as John.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:32 PM
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4. Agreed. Definitely visit his supporters in blue areas, and hit the swing
states a few times, but when you have a "hole in a tire," THAT'S where you need to reinforce it! He needs to tend to the areas of the country where the Dems have had a harder time reaching lately. I strongly believe there would be a landslide victory if everyone in every corner of the world got to see John the way we all did last Sunday. I defy anyone who has a beer with this man to not like him.
Oh yeah, election reform would be great. Death to e-voting.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 10:33 PM
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5. Vektor you are a prize. Great story!
Edited on Sat Dec-17-05 10:34 PM by ProSense
You're right; it's the kind of thing that happened when Kerry engaged those jurors.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:17 PM
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7. Now all we have to do...
Is find a way to suggest this to him...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:35 PM
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9. This may be a silly idea, but
how about just writing him and telling him. That's a great story you have there; put it in letter form and send it to him. I wrote a few letters to my senator and congressman. I got a couple of excellent responses. I think Kerry will get the picture if he receives a few letters expressing the same sentiment.

Use these contacts:

http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/
http://www.keepingamericaspromise.com/contact/


I'm thinking this is more for constituents:

http://kerry.senate.gov/v3/contact/email.cfm

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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:51 PM
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11. You think it would help?
I'll do that, if you think so...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:01 AM
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12. IMHO, yes.
I definitely think you should. And if you do, I promise to write one too. Mine will not be as personal, but it'll convey the basic sentiment.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:08 AM
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13. Ok -
On it!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:27 AM
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16. Very cool! n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:54 PM
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36. Do it, Vektor. Your story just proves how one person
was touched. While Sen. Kerry might know that, your story reinforces it.
I really enjoy how you tell a tale! And as an aside, is/was your co-worker
ribbing you last year w/o benefit of any knowledge? He didn't know Kerry
likes sports?:crazy: So those biking and wind-surfing stories fell on
deaf ears?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:17 PM
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48. I think most who bash Kerry ARE without knowledge!
If they knew anything about him at all, they'd like him. I think this co-worker may be well on his way to smartening up a little. :-)
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sandrakae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:02 PM
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6. This is a wonderful story. I enjoyed it so much.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:33 PM
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8. Hey Vektor,
Edited on Sat Dec-17-05 11:40 PM by politicasista
On edit: Here in our red state, there has been some buyers remorse. And what's funny about it is that you find it at the gas station (LOL!) Everyone blames Bush for high gas prices, Katrina, etc., and now have realized that they have been had. They were dupe into thinking that Bush was one of them (a good ol' boy, Bubba). I remember seeing all these W'04, W--The President stickers on their SUV's. I don't see them anymore, but yet, these same people would support staying in Iraq instead of withdraw. (It's a joke sometimes).

BTW: I like that strategy. Me and a fellow blogger were talking about that a month ago.

Like the story of your Republican friend, too many people in my community never saw the "real" Kerry. They bought into the media spin about how Kerry wasn't connecting with AA and the so-called AA leadership bought into it as well. We all know the portrayals were inaccurate.

If JK and Momma T could just sit on a front porch and just tell their story, in their own words, from their own mouths (not through the words of "handlers" or Dem pundits), it could make a difference. It makes me mad sometimes when peeps of mine hate on Iowa voters for voting for Kerry leading to the Dem nominee. It was so insulting to them.


Thank you for sharing again. Never underestimate the power of pictures. :patriot:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:10 AM
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14. Thanks, sista, that means a lot.
I am glad to hear about the buyer's remorse. I suspected it would come soon enough. I hope all these folks you mentioned will be heading to the polls in '06 and '08...
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 11:41 PM
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10. What a fantastic story!!! A true inspiration!
The problem really is the cynicism, too. People will say, oh, he's only being nice because he's running for POTUS. But here's the thing. You can't be someone else 24/7 -- the true you is always going to come out eventually.

Since I'm in Virginia, I am stuck reading only about Gov. Warner and his tip toeing towards running. There was this snarky column about how Warner, who was being driven somewhere in Richmond, got into a car accident. It was most definitely the other car's fault who cut the governor's car off. What happened next was Warner immediately got out of the car and asked the other driver if he was alright. Insert journalistic cynicism from the columnist: oh, he only said that because he's running for POTUS; otherwise he would have raised a fist at him and sworn. You know, maybe he said it because he's a nice person. And the same goes with Kerry. He is constantly doing kind things and being very gracious, but reporters always make it seem like they are all calculated moves to help him get elected. And one has to laugh at this. So a) Kerry is elected president in '08, and relected in '12, and then precisely on January 21, 2013, he can start being his rude self again OR b) he either doesn't run or doesn't win in '08 and then he can be relieved by the fact that, while not fulfilling his dream, he can start being rude to everyone and telling people to f*** off like in the good old pre-presidential politics days. I just don't buy it. * ran for president and is president and there are TONS of examples of him being a complete a**hole. Simply put, he's not so nice a guy, and we knew it in '00.

I'm thinking about telling some Republican friends here about the Boston party thing, but somehow it doesn't work quite as well for me as it does for you who were actually there and got your picture taken. It sounds sort of weird to say my "internet friends" met and had a beer with John Kerry. I do have the fact that I signed that birthday card, but how do I say it -- he was very touched by our cards that were sent all over the country and greatly appreciated it?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:15 AM
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15. Yeah...tell them about the card
and maybe show them some of the public pictures and say that he was really nice in person and not all like the media suggests. Then say "I'm not saying you have to agree with every policy he supports, but just that he's a good man who maybe deserves a closer look."

Don't shove it down their throats...just plant the seed. :-)

That has worked for me in the past. Because above all, people are curious about public figures. If they know that someone they know has met one, they DO want more info.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:46 AM
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17. Vek, we get them back one at a time, same way we lost them.
We get them back with patience, respect and by showing them who we really are as Dems. There are no short cuts here and no magic bullets that are going to bring the Democrats and their natural constituencies back together. We have to do the hard work. We have to talk to people. We have to get personal and talk to people. That's the only way.

And we, at the grassroots have to do this. (It is, after all, our country. We just loan it out to certain people to run for set amounts of time.) Stories like this one that you told to your co-workers do indeed plant seeds. They get people to question the conventional wisdom that they heard. They begin to wonder that if John Kerry is a nice guy who can easily interact with 'regular people' and is not at all like how Limbaugh or Hannity or the rest of the clown patrol painted him, then maybe that is true of other progressives as well. And maybe they should give that Kerry guy another think, maybe he really was what he said he was, someone who wanted to fight for ordinary Americans.

Good job kid. Really good job. This is how it's done, one at a time. And with infinite patience.
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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:14 AM
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18. You are RIGHT--So very, very right about this!
"Show them, "I am not the man you see on FOX NEWS. Come meet me. Air your grudges. Let's talk. I'll cook a spaghetti supper - come on out. If you don't like my politics, at least come for the food and we'll start there." "

I think this would SO work in Nebraska--and similar areas. I don't know if any of you all remember/were aware of this, but Nebraska was the only state Clinton never visited in his 8 years of office. We finally got a one-day pity visit a few weeks before the end of his second term, but by that time most of the state gave him a pretty cold reception because he'd acted like we were totally unimportant for over 8 years. And during 2004, we (and other "red" states) were sent the clear message that we simply weren't at all important to any Democratic candidate. We did not matter because we were hopelessly "red."

Compare that to *-- who has visited a number of times. Heck, he even showed up for a few hours at Offut on 9-11. As ridiculous as that was, it was still exciting for Nebraska to actually be included in the events of that day in a small way. The republicans have been courting Nebraskans for years, and they've sent the message that we and our "values" are important to them. I think it's all pretty much emotional and verbal manipulation, but is it any wonder that the republican party has become so strong here?

Apparently, Nebraska USED to be a solid Dem state--I don't know how many years ago. And we used to send a lot of Dems to Congress and vote Dem for governor, etc. Now, it's pretty solidly red around here, and I don't know all the reasons for how that happened, but I do think that every time a Dem candidate writes us off as hopelessly red and doesn't hardly bother to visit, it only strengthens that conservative stranglehold.

My husband grew up on a farm in Kansas, and from his experiences and from the experiences of a lot of my friends from rural areas, people in small towns and in the rural areas would come to see even a candidate they think they disagree with--simply because it would be the most exciting thing to happen in their area in years.

Plus, most of us around here can't afford to go to expensive fund-raisers or private political parties. The CEOs can, of course, (and there are plenty of those here in Omaha) but they're not going to like JK's policies, I have a feeling. :) If JK were to reach out to us every-day sort of people, and send the message that red-staters, the poor, and those from rural and small-town America are really just as important to him as the ones who already support him, I think you'd see a tremendous amount of openness and appreciation. And that would lead to a willingness to listen.

I think this is an imminently sensible and reasonable and doable idea. Go Vektor! :)
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:19 AM
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22. I absolutely agree re Omaha
Not sure about the rest of NE, but the people I know in and around Omaha are ready to hear a message that they can relate to. I think they're feeling abandoned. I can only base this on the couple dozen people I know there, but their opinion of the Senator, what little they know of him, is fairly neutral. Their objection, believe it or not, is to the word 'liberal'. Even the most rational, the ones who believe Sen Kerry would make a good president, and who don't object to him or his positions, can't see themselves voting for anyone with that label attached.
But they are fast realizing that they've been 'had'. They thought bush* was going to protect them from taxes and deficit. They've seen through that charade. They thought he would protect their midwest values. They're still working on that one. They were afraid the Senator was going to round up their guns and then desert them for his base in the blue states. That's what we need to work on.
I sent the article about the Senator's hunting trip (just north of Omaha a few weeks back) to a friend of mine in Omaha. He's a big hunter, and was pretty impressed. His first comment was to apologize for not replying to the e-mail quickly, because the word 'liberal' must have sent my message to his junk mailbox (I told him to be careful not to accidentally shoot at anything tall and liberal or something like that). He does not understand it. He knows I'm one, but he likes me 'anyway'.
So, is that what you see? Is it the labels we're fighting against? Do I 'get it', or am I confused as well?
Oh, Go Huskers, BTW.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:51 AM
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23. During the campaign
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 11:52 AM by ray of light
When JK/JE rode the train, they actually had a person with a sign who flagged down the train. I'm sure Karendc remembers the story better than I do, but I remember JK DID stop the train.

There was also the other story of Presidents (WI?) that Bush DROVE through-while the town had set up in full parade mode. They let the kids off school. They had people in the streets lined up. AND they waited HOURS. Then FINALLY the Bush mobile came though and ten seconds later passed through the other side.

I seem to remember Kerry/Edwards DETOURED through that little town.

Oops...

And Edited to say, I think Democrats need to make businesses realize they too do better under progressive policies. JK/JE had a plan for health care that would have HELPED the companies as well as the private citizens.

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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:15 PM
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27. I think it was 10 people
Holding up a white sheet that said "give us 10 minutes, we'll give you the presidency" or something close to that. It was late at night and JK saw the big sign on the sheet and stopped to talk to them.

I know KarenDC pointed out in a comment below that the Kerry blog was used effectively to convey first person stories and post photos like these posted here and it was quite effective.

JK held many small events in many states with the "little people" including some red states - the MSM never gave them much coverage -- which really is so important. It's one thing for people to pass stories along to co-workers and friends, it's another all together for the MSM to get them in print and air those stories so MORE people are enlightened about the real JK.

As a small business owner I agree wholeheartedly about Dems being more small business/business friendly. I keep track of all the work JK does on the Senate Small Biz Committee and post it on my blog (I also wrote about it when possible on the Kerry blog). As more people stand up against corporatization, we may see a resurgance of people actually understanding the importance of small business.

Right now we in a situation where most Dems (and liberal bloggers) are so concerned with the scandals and corruption that we don't have many conversations on the issues (IMHO).
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:31 PM
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28. I think the sign said
Give us 8 minutes and we'll give you 8 years. Something like that.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:36 PM
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31. yep. you're right!!! AND YaYYYYY! I found it. Look below!
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 01:40 PM by ray of light
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/aug04/248581.asp

Kerry sips a beer, foams over job losses
Small-town stops follow Beloit talk
By CRAIG GILBERT
cgilbert@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Aug. 3, 2004
Monroe - On a trip that paid due homage to two local symbols - beer and cheese - John Kerry's cross-country caravan rolled through southern Wisconsin on Tuesday, with the Democrat promising to mend what he called the state's "hard-hit" economy and telling voters, "We're going to put money in your pocket."

After a town hall meeting in Beloit, Kerry made five unannounced stops en route to Iowa, from a sleepy street corner in Gratiot (pop. 252) to a brewery and a combination cheese store and bar in Monroe.

Some of those communities had last seen a presidential candidate 44 years ago, when John Kennedy campaigned across the state's rural southwest corner.

The last of Kerry's Wisconsin stops was tiny Cuba City, where President Bush's bus caravan passed through in May without halting, to the disappointment of some residents.

In an apparent display of one-upmanship, the Kerry campaign came to a complete stop in Cuba City, the self-styled "city of presidents." Its main street is adorned with shields and silhouettes honoring all 43 occupants of the White House.

Tuesday was the fifth day of Kerry's two-week, coast-to-coast march, and hotly contested Wisconsin was the eighth of 18 battleground states on the itinerary.

At his main event, the Massachusetts senator spent 20 minutes talking and 40 minutes answering questions before a crowd of 1,700 supporters in Beloit. Speaking before him were U.S. Rep. Tammy Baldwin and U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold, both Wisconsin Democrats.

'We can do better'
Kerry's big themes were the economy, the deficit and health care. He said his plans to provide health care coverage, increase college aid and boost manufacturing would improve the fortunes of middle-class families.

"The gap between haves and have-nots is getting wider. Not in my America," Kerry said.

With its net job losses under Bush, but a recent job rebound more robust than that of many other states, Wisconsin offers ammunition to both sides in the economic debate.

This is how Kerry described the state's condition at his town hall meeting in Beloit's Edwards Pavilion:

"Wisconsin has been hard-hit, like a lot of states in the Midwest and the rest of America. Your unemployment rate is up about 31 percent since 2001. It's not outrageous in its overall numbers, but it's meaningful to the people who have suffered. You've lost 72,000 manufacturing jobs, and you've lost jobs - net negative job loss in this state. Look, I'm not here to bad-mouth, but I tell you we can do better."

Kerry aides said later that he was referring to the increase in manufacturing unemployment in the Beloit area, which has had some of the highest jobless numbers in the state.

The region lost 13% of its manufacturing jobs from the beginning of 2001 to June of this year. The state has lost about 69,000 manufacturing jobs since January 2001.

But more recently, it has begun to regain some jobs. Among the 18 or 19 most-contested states in this election, Wisconsin is the most reliant on manufacturing. And during 2004, it has added more manufacturing jobs (13,100) than any other contested state, and added them at a higher rate.

"Kerry will talk down America's growing economy during his visit to Wisconsin," Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said in a statement for the Bush campaign.

Ryan said Kerry's plan to roll back Bush's tax cuts in the case of high-income Americans would burden small businesses and "derail the economic recovery that has created nearly 59,000 Wisconsin jobs this year."

Kerry assailed Bush's record on budget deficits and said that "as president, I'm not going to be responsible for piling debt on our children's heads."

Kerry began his day in Milwaukee with a bike ride, leaving from the Hilton escorted by two Secret Service bikers, two Secret Service SUVs, police on motorcycles and police cars.

Beer and cheese
After the Beloit event, Kerry's day was filled with the kind of Wisconsin backdrops one would expect from a presidential visit. In fact, Kerry did one thing for the cameras that you won't see his opponent do: He drank beer, and Bush stopped drinking years ago.

On a visit to the Joseph Huber Brewing Co. in Monroe, Kerry sipped a richly hued Berghoff Famous Red Ale, and his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, sampled a lighter Solstice Wit Bier.

Moments earlier, the two stopped at Baumgartner's bar and cheese store in Monroe, a visit prompted by Teresa Heinz Kerry's enthusiasm for what she called "stinky cheese." She ordered a Limburger sandwich with raw onions and mustard on rye, and a pound of Limburger to go.

In the bar, Kerry chatted with patrons, signs overhead proclaiming, "Limburger, Don't Eat It With Your Nose." Maps of Switzerland and Wisconsin decorated another wall.

"I heard you were here, and I run right down," Peggy Miller of Monroe told Kerry.

Talking to a reporter, Miller recalled Kennedy's 1960 visit. "I was there, serving doughnuts and coffee," she said.

After Monroe (Green County), Kerry made unannounced stops in Gratiot, Shullsburg and Benton (Lafayette County) and Cuba City (Grant County), before speaking at a rally that drew thousands in Dubuque, Iowa.

Attention to region
Like Monroe, Shullsburg had its last personal taste of presidential campaign pomp in 1960, when Kennedy spoke at a theater.

Green, Lafayette and Grant counties voted for Al Gore in the 2000 presidential election, part of a Democratic tilt in southwestern Wisconsin that Republicans believe contributed to Bush's narrow defeat statewide.

As a result of that - and the proximity of swing states Iowa and Minnesota - both sides have given extraordinary attention to Wisconsin's sparsely populated southwestern corner. This was Kerry's second bus ride through Grant County in a month, with both trips taking him to Dubuque.

In Cuba City, Joe Goeman urged Kerry to come back "when he is president" to sign a shield for the city's presidential display.

"Don't forget," Goeman said.

Kerry told him, "It may be the party of the donkey, but I have a memory like an elephant."


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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #31
34. Good find!
I'll bet the stop on the train is available by search as well. JK did far more connecting wiht the "little people" during the campaign than people - incuding some democrats - give him credit for. The mem that JK was aloof and couldn't connect, was put out early and it stuck.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:53 PM
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35. I do remember that
that was a great story. I also remember when he was campaigning during the primaries and he plopped himself down with 3 ladies sitting at a table, it was outside, they were so happy to have him do that. Can't remember the city though.

There were so many great stories on the campaign trail. I know the guy that headed the Kerry supporters here, who first was involved with the Meetup for Dean, met with Kerry on Memorial day and he had a great experience talking with him. Not knowing what to expect he came back and said "he's not to cold, or not to hot, he's just right." I remember posting his summation on the Kerry blog. He was so right.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #35
40. The three ladies were NH!
In a dinner.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. Ladies, ladies and more ladies
This was out west, maybe it was after the primaries. It was on C-Span and I think JK had a milkshake. So many stories, a Kerry blog archives would sure come in handy for these. One thing for sure he'll sit down and talk to ladies anytime, nothing aloof in that.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #35
43. ok..please post your story on the story thread I'm starting.
Thanks
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #31
50. Great find - and yes, I remember, he did do some of this type of thing...
last year. Those stories always warmed my heart the most. More of that is needed next time around. A real concerted effort to hit these "pockets of resistance" so to speak in these rural red state areas. The power of people to spread the word in these small towns is AMAZING. You know those type of communities where everybody knows what everybody else is doing?

That can be a very positive type of media when the news is good!
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. That was it!
Ah, your memory is better than mine!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. kg, the fact is that big corps are using slave labor overseas, and
so there will be an upswing in small business ownership.

You're right. That point definitely needs to be spread.

(And thanks for filling in the details on that story. It's one of my favs.)
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Right now small biz's are really suffering
due to Bush's policies of helping the large corporations. I plan to write something about this in the next few days.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:54 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. I know. My hubby is now a small business owner.
But it's a technical field so it's going ok. But I know a lot of other people layed off.
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jenndar Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:56 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. Thanks.
I'm a small business owner, and I really appreciate that. I know too many people who are having a really hard time, thanks to the administration and the GOP Congress.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #39
47. I'd love to get more stories about Small Biz's suffering
If you or anyone here has stuff you would like to share about this on my blog, let me know.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #18
49. StoryTeller, would you be willing to send this post
to the contact addresses ProSense gave me? Testimonial from someone living in a red state really reinforces that this idea might be a good one. I'm sure the Kerry camp would be interested in knowing what the buzz is in these areas and how they can reach these people.
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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #49
68. Of course!
Tell me who and where, and I'm there. I also had told Tay Tay in a PM that I would really like to have the chance to do something similar with the whole evangelical/conservative Christian subculture, if such a thing would be helpful. I'm not sure I can be of much help in elucidating the extreme fundies, because thankfully my experience with that is minimal. But I grew up in a conservative Christian home and still have at least one foot in that world, as far as my friends and relatives go.

And maybe I'm just too optimistic, but I can't help but think that the people I've come in contact with are actually pretty reasonable, and they just need someone who can speak to them in their language and bridge some of these cultural gaps. I'm completely willing to help in any way that I can. Just let me know what you want me to do. :)
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:27 PM
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69. Here, StoryTeller...
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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #69
71. Thanks, Vektor--I'll do that. :) (nt)
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 07:11 AM
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19. Great story Vek.
I've told some folks about my trip to Boston at work, and they were really excited (even though I know they didn't vote for John last year.) My (VERY Republican) best friend (who lives about 1 1/2 away so I don't see her very often but send e-mails daily) doesn't care to hear anything about the entire trip. I told her I was going there to meet up with a bunch of Democratic friends (who I'd never met) and she actually got pissed off at me and didn't want to hear another word about it. Her attitude has really sort of hurt my feelings (I listened with great enthusiasm and asked lots of questions when she went to a big Franklin Graham revival meeting a few years ago, even though that's not my thang). We obviously have things to talk about other than politics or religion. (My liberal friends of course are ECSTATIC about my experience, including one friend who voted for Kerry but was a major Deaniac.)

I totally agree with you though Vektor that if JK runs in '08 he needs to spend more time in red places, and not just large cities in red states which tend to be bluer anyway. Part of this I think is the gossip factor (gossip in a good way). If you live an an area of the country where not much happens and all of the sudden a presidential candidate shows up (and is genuinely nice, gorgeous, well mannered, etc.) that is going to be "news" for weeks and weeks - the story will be told again and again to friends and relatives near and far. Word of mouth is a great form of advertising.

Of course having said that, I know any candidate is but one person (where's the damn clone already?) and there is only so many places he/she can visit. I think just adding a few totally random places to the campaign trail might be an interesting thing to do.
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karendc Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. The Stories Are Important...
I know I won at LEAST a few votes for JK with the story one of his SBVs told us:

Every day in VietNam he was terrified. From the day he got off the plane until the day he got back on, he lived in fear. He was 18 years old, in the jungle.

But if John Kerry called him up TODAY and told him he was needed for a mission to hell, he would be there.

NO ONE who has ever been to war can miss the point in that story. The man is a trusted leader.

I also remind people of Iran Contra and BCCI--most do not now anything about what he did.

I also tell tham what Teresa is like.

The purpose of the Kerry Blog was to tell those stories, to bring the Kerrys to the people. And the bloggers did a magnificent job of sharing them, rebutting, etc. I like coming here because I know the research that many loyal folks did for the Kerry Blog still lives in all of you, and is shared.

Vektor, your experience is worth sharing with the PAC, and I will send it along, along with the ideas herein about getting to red states and territories.

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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. Your stories helped me keep my equilibrium when I was
canvassing and phone banking.

I still sucked at it though. (HA)
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #25
51. My stories?
You were reading my stories back then?
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #20
41. I passed this on --
late last night.
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. Would
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 02:13 PM by k j
someone pass my husband's story along? Please? LOLOL :hippie:
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. Well of course! N/T
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #45
46. Thanks KG...
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 02:56 PM by k j
I know you know I'm kidding :hippie:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #20
70. I loved the Kerry blog - those of you who made it possible
deserve a huge amount of thanks from those of us who read it. (I read and only very occasionally posted - when people were worried about NJ, because I had not else worth adding.

It would be great if someone took the blog archives and turned excerpts into a book. I guess the "plot line" would have been better if Kerry would have won, but the fact that it existed and became a virtual community is noteworthy. There was no Bush blog.

The fact that one LW freeper blamed Kerry for "closing down the blog when we needed it most" among other things - demonstrates how important it became. Given how stacked against Kerry the media was, the blog was really one of the things that counteracted the bias. I loved the stories and the pointers to Kerry media times and channels. All of this changed me from someone who was very pro-Kerry to thinking he was the best person I ever had the chance to vote for.

I wonder if one residual value of the blog will be that there are a pool of people who could easily be pushed to believe in Kerry again - because they saw many personal sides to Kerry and his family and know that he is a very good person as well as being the brilliant man we see in the Senate and saw then in the debates. (and we know 12 people who all attest to him being a great person to have a beer with!)
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karendc Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 12:30 AM
Response to Reply #70
100. ssshhhhhh...
...we have the blog....
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:03 AM
Response to Reply #100
101. It's been cleaned up a bit though....
Right? :blush:
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:17 AM
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21. Great story, Vek, and great point.
This is really important. The only way past the media spin will be for individuals to meet him, see what he is really like, and spread the word. And it sounds like you're doing a great job!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:58 AM
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24. Wonderful story, Vek.
I have had similar reactions, although my core group of friends at work is very blue. Actually, now they're green with envy.
The ones on the other side, though, were very impressed as well. And when I told them about the bar, and how smart and funny and human this guy really is, some of them actually seemed shocked, and even a little ashamed for believing all the hype. "Is he really?", "That's so cool!", "He met you guys at the bar???!!!", "I didn't realize he was like that".
One 'good Christian' told me "I heard he was a great guy". Wellll... then TELL PEOPLE THAT instead of allowing and even propagating lies about the man. Where were the "Christian values" you purport to have when this guy was being smeared? Did you defend him then? Would you defend me if someone was telling lies about me? Why does "do unto others" disappear when politics is involved? The guy's a decorated vet, a tireless public servant and a good Catholic. Does that somehow conflict with your values, Mister Christian Guy? Stand up for what you know is right, for crying out loud.
Of course, I was much nicer. No sense pissing off potential supporters.
Anyway, great story. Thanks for posting it.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #24
26. That's so funny GV because my boss (who I know voted for *)
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 12:19 PM by Island Blue
had the same reaction when I told her about the bar experience. "I heard he was a great guy." I didn't know if she was just saying that to have something to say, or if she was having buyer's remorse. She has a tendency to agree with however is talking at the moment, so I'm still not quite sure where she pulled that reaction from.

I still haven't told my Republican relatives in South Carolina about the experience yet. When I do I'll tell the tee-totalers that we had dinner with JK (there was food on the table, and it was kind of our dinner that night), but I'll definitely tell my uncle who opens beer bottles with his forearm that we had a beer with him. I don't know if I'll win any converts, but maybe it will make them think twice next time.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #26
38. ok..here...you had
nonalcholic beer, right? (fake stuff)

And the chips and nachos count as food in my book.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #38
53. Chips and nachos?
We had honey mustard chicken and calamari at our end of the table.

:-)
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:49 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. Right, and absolutely NO alcohol!
:evilgrin: I wasn't buzzing at all. It must have been non-alcoholic beer. On second thought, :rofl:

Oh well, when necessary to further the story, I can leave out the part about the drankin'!
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. Tee-hee!
Good thinking!
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #55
72. Well, hopefully you had a glass of water on the table.
That quenched your thirst, right?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #24
52. Exactly what I am saying!
Most of us have come back from work with stories like this. All of us who were there and showed photos to our "less than blue" acquaintances have gotten very positive responses, and a lot of curiosity. We are really onto something here.
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 01:33 PM
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29. Great story...
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 01:39 PM by k j
but my area of Rural Red and experience as a Kerry supporter is a little bit different... and quite a bit on the down and dirty side, unfortunately. While some of the people in this area have 'buyer's remorse,' most 'wingers here aren't ill-informed, they're just biased against things, and people, with the label "Democrat." Going into our third year here, we've both worked long and hard to break through to the 'wingers with reason and civility... but have run right into a mindset that doesn't seem to want to change.

Why? I think because themes of:
God, Country, Patriot and Heterosexual Way of Life = Republican
Atheist, Anti-American Liberal Free-Love Hippies = Democrat

It's incredible and sad and all I can say is... there are a multitude of reasons why some of these rural areas are steadily losing their populations. I'm tellin' ya, I should write a book. Oh wait, Thomas Frank already did. :-\

I do hope Kerry spends more time in rural areas, especially former swing states, and wished he had been able to during the campaign. However, if I understand the PAC's purpose correctly, Kerry will be in many states supporting Democrat candidates.

My only other point is this: it is going to take a huge event, bigger than we've had to date, or else more time than this country has to spare, to get some of these voters turned around.

Patience, Persistence and Planning are some of my watchword touchstones.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #29
54. My area is like that too.
Also quite racist. If a Boston born, Mass-hole, French, Liberal, Catholic, Kerry loving Democrat like me can move here and start reaching these people, it CAN be done. The thing is, Kerry IS a Christian. He is not a gun-grabbber, he IS for moral values. What the people in these aeas you speak of need to understand is that Democrats ARE the party of moral values.

I once had an EXTREMELY RIGHT WING adjunct instructor at my school, after hearing that I was all of the above items say "My god, I never imagined that one person could harbor SO many undesirable traits at the same time." I actually started laughing hysterically and said "You wannna take a picture with me?! You might never have another opportunity like this again!"

We are friends now.

And she really helped me out a lot this last semester. I could have gotten pissed and went off on her, and then totally wrote her off, but instead I showed her that people like me aren't so bad. Which is more rewarding in the long run.
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:15 PM
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57. Of course...
'wingers can be reached, sorry if I implied differently. But each area is different, and this particular area of the country is losing population and losing opportunities (two huge opportunities in the last two years) and clinging very tight their old ways. With fear comes more barriers, and that's what I see going on today. Barriers and Fear and Fear and Barriers.

I have a lot of stories. Some good, some quite frightening.

But when the chance for a new industry to come to town, industry and innovation that would generate opportunities for not only universities and students, but the manufacturing base, and the local school board would rather "those folks from California" not come anyway (the property taxes alone would have helped the area!) you know the place is in trouble.

Just sayin' not every rural area is going to be saved.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. I'm sorry to hear that.
It sounds dismal. Though I am in CA, I'm in a miserable pocket of the state, and we have similar problems due to having next to no career or educational opportunities. It's a quagmire.
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #58
62. Quagmire...
is right. And sad. I'm not one to say die, but at this point, after all that's happened, I'm going to be happy to leave the area. And those who know me know how hard I tried to reach out and find common ground. At least I know there were a couple of ripples generated. :-)
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #54
59. However...
Michael Moore DID come here, the same weekend his DVD and book came out. He said it was the smallest place (and crowd) he'd ever spoken to. I was lucky enough to get in on a 12 to 1 Q&A with him. He had a humble, quiet spirit in that setting.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:21 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. That is really cool!
Do you have any pics with him?
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. Yep...
tons and tons of pictures... :-) At the time, I was working for the local newspaper so I had press access. 'Twas cool.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. Here's one for you.
My aunt lives in rural Georgia, so I know what it means to be the lone liberal in a sea of RW fundies. They are not at all like my Nebraska friends, who can be rational on most topics.
When I say bible-totin, I mean they actually carry them.
I recently spent time with my aunt on the occasion of my uncle's memorial service. I did not remove my Kerry bracelet, I flaunted it. And believe me, it did not go unnoticed. Her priest and I had a discussion about it. Her friends, all in their 70s and 80s, gave it 'that look'. But they saw me taking care of my aunt, who I love. They called me that nice little girl from Pittsburgh, and they welcomed me. And my aunt told me, before I left to head back home, that it was good for them to see that all liberals aren't bad. I really wanted to laugh at that, but I knew it was the best I was going to get. It was a compliment, believe it or not, and one I was happy to receive. Granted, this probably won't get the Senator many votes, but who knows? At least it might get them thinking. And maybe the next time they see "one of us", they won't pre-judge. Maybe I'll do the same.

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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:25 PM
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63. GlobalVillage said:
"At least it might get them thinking. And maybe the next time they see "one of us", they won't pre-judge. Maybe I'll do the same."

LOVE THAT. :-) :-) :-)
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:26 PM
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65. And that's where it starts...
Most of the misconceptions other people have about Democrats stem from the fact that they hardly know any. I have swayed a lot of people just by meeting and befriending them. The Pubs at work all call me "the coolest Democrat ever..." When I meet their spouses and stuff, they all say "Oh, you're the little liberal girl that my wife just loves!" I have gotten more than a few people to soften their opinion of Kerry, just with subtle seed planting. :-)
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k j Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:31 PM
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66. Yep...
seeds. :-)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 05:50 PM
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67. Um,
another good story for the letter(s).
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:17 PM
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73. You're right. It was a big part of the 2004 NH Primary win.
Show them, "I am not the man you see on FOX NEWS. Come meet me. Air your grudges. Let's talk. I'll cook a spaghetti supper - come on out. If you don't like my politics, at least come for the food and we'll start there." It sounds hokey, but hokey WORKS.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:31 PM
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74. Great picture - welcome to the best group on DU
or at least the most active candidate group (by far).
That's a great picture.
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:41 PM
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75. Thanks.
Glad to be here.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:02 PM
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77. Howdy and welcome!
Always glad to see newcomers in our little corner of DU. :hi:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:09 PM
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79. Welcome! Thanks for making our group your first stop!
Have you been lurking a while?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:14 PM
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80. Wlecome to the Kerry forum!
Pleased to have you here.

We are going to need a newbie thread soon.

I am looking forward to 'chewing the fat with you.' (And you must have been lurking for awhile. You knew that the key to our hearts is a pic. LOL! The newbies are so much smarter now that in my day.)

:patriot:
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:25 PM
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96. Jeez, if that's all it takes...
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:37 PM
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97. Awesome! Keep em' coming...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:48 PM
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98. You're winning hearts around here big time. Nice photo. n/t
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 08:49 PM
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76. Welcome to DU and the JK Group!!!
:hi:

Good to see you here! And you come with the gift of Kerry pics! How nice!
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:08 PM
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78. Mmmmm...that looks like chili.
Where's his "Kiss the Cook" apron?
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:30 PM
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82. Once the NH Firefighters Union endorsed JK in the Primary,
"chili feeds" (Get it? Firehouse Chili) were scheduled all over the state, often in the local fire station.

The usual routine was to have the Senator, sometimes with THK and/or a daughter or two, ladle out the chili to anyone who showed up. That would give everyone who was interested an opportunity to say hello or have a little chat. Once the food had been served, there'd be a brief speech, Q & A (unscripted I might add), and some final mingling before hopping back on the "Real Deal Express" to drive to the next one. Many days there'd be two, three or more of these "feeds".

These were great events, which impressed virtually everyone in attendance and usually got great local press.

IMHO, as they say, if the rest of the country were conducive to this kind of "one-on-one" "face-to-face" campaigning, we'd all be starting to plan the 2008 re-election campaign about now. There's a lot to be said for retail politics and the ability to meet THIS candidate in person.

Now, if we can just figure out how to get him in front of even more voters the next time around...

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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:49 PM
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88. Excellent input! And I agree. These "chili feeds" are a great way to reach
voters! The up close and personal human contact really goes a long way. My opinion of him was reinforced, and made 9387384957359375357573 times more favorable after meeting him.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #73
81. OMG! CMNH! You joined DU on John Kerry's birthday!
An even bigger reason to cheer!
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #81
83. As soon as
I got home from the party.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:34 PM
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84. You were at the party?
Who were you?
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:37 PM
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86. Just one of the crowd
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:50 PM
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89. Are you the nice gentleman over to our right who gave us the thumbs up?
And all that great applause? Someone in the audience kept yelling YEAH BLOGGERS!

Was that you? :-)
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:00 PM
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93. From what I could see,
there were about 100 "nice gentlemen" (and ladies) over to your right who gave you great applause. Actually, wasn't EVERYONE over to your right?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:02 PM
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94. HAHAHAHAHA! OK! There was a fellow, DIRECTLY to our right... in a grey
suit, standing with his wife, who was really enthusiastic and nice.

(Busting my BAWLS, are ya?) :-)
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:45 PM
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87. WHAAAAAA?
Did I meet you?
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cmnh Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. No,
I didn't want to intrude on your group but I thought the recognition you all got was fantastic (and well deserved). I'll make a point of introducing myself January 20, 2009 at the Inaugural Ball.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:54 PM
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91. You think we'll get invited again? We were a little giddy...
It was awesome. In the event you ever find yourself at another event with us, come up and say hi!
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:56 PM
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92. Yay!!! Welcome, welcome.
So happy you're here.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:49 PM
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99. Welcome neighbor.
I am on the Mass - NH border and I sense a fellow New Englander. (Duh, that was obvious.) Welcome to the party here. Ahm, you do know that these forums are free-wheeling and, ahm, kind of crazy. (And this one kind of skews female, but we do have guys showing up. They are all just shy. Dammit. Why is that? Every other forum in Demville or in the political world sort of skews or massively skews male. What is it about this forum anyway? )

I have a feeling we will meet again. And wasn't that party fun? (And utterly exhausting for us. We done lost our minds after all that. It was a bit overwhelming for us regular folks.) And we had a nice beer with the Senator afterwards and haven't recovered fully yet. It was a time. I have been to some fundraisers before, but that was truly a wild time. Everyone was so damn happy. (Or was it just me and my skewed perspective? Honestly, that was a lot of fun. And it was soooooo gooooood to see Teresa out and about. I just love that woman.)

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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:09 AM
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102. I was so damn happy. And I'm recovered. I'm ready to do it again.
Like, now. I think for next year's birthday cards, (yes, I am already planning for next year - it keeps me going) we should circulate them a little earlier, and get even more sigs and post marks. Also, I have found my dress for next year!! As fate would have it, the first fashion mag I opened after getting home to Dullsville featured it in a "party dresses" layout. It's the most gorgeous thing I have ever seen. It SCREAMED "Kerry's next Birthday Party!"

I'll be ordering it.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 07:13 AM
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103. Welcome cmnh!
That was a fantastic party wasn't it? I think those of us who went are finally settling down a little bit now. We were a wee bit hyper for the first few days after we returned. (Gee, I wonder why?) Welcome aboard!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:36 PM
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85. Welcome, and thanks for the photo. n/t
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:16 PM
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95. Thanks Vector
I needed a smile today
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